Donald Trump is Officially a Sexual Abuser

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Finally, Trump is officially a sexual abuser must pay nearly $5 Million for his sexual attack and then lying about it and defaming E. Jean Carroll.
The jury was unanimous in its verdict.

NEW YORK, May 9 (Reuters) - Donald Trump sexually abused magazine writer E. Jean Carroll in the 1990s and then defamed her by branding her a liar, jurors decided on Tuesday, dealing the former U.S. president a legal setback as he campaigns to retake office in 2024.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/jurors-se ... 023-05-09/

But of course this will not deter millions of Republican 'Christian' evangelicals from supporting and voting for him... and sending him money. :(

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The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:26 am
Diogenes wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:08 pm The defamation verdict also officially brands him for what he has long been, a liar.
It is telling that one of two major political parties in the U.S. elected and still supports a known liar and sex criminal.
Well, pretty much all politicians lie. But Trump is perhaps the only president who can't seem to stop lying, even when he knows it would be better for him to tell the truth. Trump is also the first ex-president to have been legally determined to be a sex criminal, however.

I suspect that there have been others, but they seem to have had at least enough common sense to avoid being exposed the way Trump has been.
Interestingly enough, in a May 10th article of the Washington Post titled "How Republicans feel about Trump and sexual misconduct" it was noted that ". . . 1 in 5 Americans (18 percent) believed Trump had made such unwanted sexual advances but were still planning to vote for him"


Fortunately, 18% doesn't get anyone elected.


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Miles wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 2:19 pm
Interestingly enough, in a May 10th article of the Washington Post titled "How Republicans feel about Trump and sexual misconduct" it was noted that ". . . 1 in 5 Americans (18 percent) believed Trump had made such unwanted sexual advances but were still planning to vote for him"
Fortunately, 18% doesn't get anyone elected.
That's consistent with polls after the "Planet Hollywood" revelations first became public. A small, but significant number of Americans said that knowing that Trump does those things made them like him better.

Problem is, some of them are now running the House of Representatives.

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Man gets in trouble for libel, gets sued and found guilty for it, gets on Chicken Noodle News and does it again.

It's just who he is.

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:00 pm Man gets in trouble for libel, gets sued and found guilty for it, goes on Chicken Noodle News and does it again.

It's just who he is.

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The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:26 am
Diogenes wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:08 pm The defamation verdict also officially brands him for what he has long been, a liar.
It is telling that one of two major political parties in the U.S. elected and still supports a known liar and sex criminal.
Well, pretty much all politicians lie. But Trump is perhaps the only president who can't seem to stop lying, even when he knows it would be better for him to tell the truth. Trump is also the first ex-president to have been legally determined to be a sex criminal, however.

I suspect that there have been others, but they seem to have had at least enough common sense to avoid being exposed the way Trump has been.
Reminds me of folks complaining about a "perjury trap" if he testified about various offenses.
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JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:02 pm
The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:26 am
Diogenes wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:08 pm The defamation verdict also officially brands him for what he has long been, a liar.
It is telling that one of two major political parties in the U.S. elected and still supports a known liar and sex criminal.
Well, pretty much all politicians lie. But Trump is perhaps the only president who can't seem to stop lying, even when he knows it would be better for him to tell the truth. Trump is also the first ex-president to have been legally determined to be a sex criminal, however.

I suspect that there have been others, but they seem to have had at least enough common sense to avoid being exposed the way Trump has been.
Reminds me of folks complaining about a "perjury trap" if he testified about various offenses.
That was a real thing. And yes, his legal opponents sought to get his deposition or testimony precisely because they anticipated it.

And yes, the bar for politicians is a bit lower than we set for everyone else. In fact, voters severely punish a politician who is completely truthful. Still, there is a bar, low as it may be, and Trump can't clear it.

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The Barbarian wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 7:57 am
JoeyKnothead wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 11:02 pm
The Barbarian wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 11:26 am
Diogenes wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 6:08 pm The defamation verdict also officially brands him for what he has long been, a liar.
It is telling that one of two major political parties in the U.S. elected and still supports a known liar and sex criminal.
Well, pretty much all politicians lie. But Trump is perhaps the only president who can't seem to stop lying, even when he knows it would be better for him to tell the truth. Trump is also the first ex-president to have been legally determined to be a sex criminal, however.

I suspect that there have been others, but they seem to have had at least enough common sense to avoid being exposed the way Trump has been.
Reminds me of folks complaining about a "perjury trap" if he testified about various offenses.
That was a real thing. And yes, his legal opponents sought to get his deposition or testimony precisely because they anticipated it.

And yes, the bar for politicians is a bit lower than we set for everyone else. In fact, voters severely punish a politician who is completely truthful. Still, there is a bar, low as it may be, and Trump can't clear it.
One of the many problems *rump exploited and exacerbated was the poor logic of a great swath of the American public - faulty logic. Equivocation was used to put the Prince of Liars in the same category as normal amount of lying by politicians. Along with equivocation, his people invoked a related gem, "what-about-ism." What-about-ism neatly deflects focus from the burning barn of outrage to the little campfires of general shortcomings of normal people.

*rump was also successful in exploiting the anti science wing of evangelicals# to be antivaxers, causing a tide of unnecessary deaths from SARS-cov-2 (COVID-19).

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That word is an interesting thing. In high school and college I did track gangs with Mexican workers. "Pendejo" was a word you could say to a really good friend as a humorous greeting, or as a fighting word for anyone else.

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In Johnny's classroom, it was coming up to recess time. The teacher had a little game to see who went first. She'd say a famous quote and the first student to get it would be next to recess.

"I have not yet begun to fight."
Johnny was just about to speak when Allie said "John Paul Jones" and skipped out of the room to recess.

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself."
Again Johnny was about to speak when Mary said "Franklin D. Roosevelt, and left to recess.

Irritated, Johnny said "I wish these broads would just keep their mouths shut."
The teacher spun around. "Who said that?"

"Donald Trump" Johnny said. "Can I go to recess now?"

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boatsnguitars wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 5:24 pm I know we've been burned before, but I think this is the albatross that weighs him down too much.

Of course, I thought the Access Hollywood bus video was the end of him too.

The Republicans love themselves some sex offenders!

Remember, if a Republican accuses someone of a crime, it means they're guilty of it.
One side seems to constantly think that Trump is going down while simultaneously the other side constantly thinks that Biden is done for. It's amusing to watch and I'm constantly wondering if either side will ever be right in their prediction.

Just 2 quick headlines that popped:
Trump is now a legally defined sexual predator – will it affect his 2024 bid?
vs
Comer Reveals New Evidence in Biden Family’s Influence Peddling Schemes

What we get is:
"The Republicans love themselves some sex offenders!"
vs
Biden is a money launderer, or taking bribes (or what have you).

It's kind of like predicting the coming of Christ don't you think?
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