No Big Bang

[Being1]

There was no Big Bang. Don't you think the most logical, intelligent question to ask about the Big Bang would be, 'What was the cause of the bang? The bang was an effect. What created it?

The observed expansion of the universe is not the after effect of an almighty bang. It is the growth, the evolutionary growth.

[bernee51]

There was no Big Bang.

And you know this to be a fact? On what basis?

That has never been proven, that very criticle point is always assumed or never talked about.

BB is a theory. I presume you do know he difference between a theory and a fact.

Just like the idea of a creator god is a theory.

[Sender]

And you know this to be a fact? On what basis?

It is your theory, you need to prove it happened. I haven't heard a plausible one yet, have you?

BB is a theory. I presume you do know he difference between a theory and a fact.

Of course. Please show them to me and tell me about it

Just like the idea of a creator god is a theory.

The Creationist knows the origin of how life began. Evolutionist make an impossible claim and call it science. Please explain that.

[bernee51]

And you know this to be a fact? On what basis?

It is your theory, you need to prove it happened. I haven't heard a plausible one yet, have you?

It was you who made the definitive statement i.e. it [the BB] never happened. On what basis do you make this claim?

And BTW it is not 'my theory' - I have to prove nothing.

The Creationist knows the origin of how life began. Evolutionist make an impossible claim and call it science. Please explain that.

The 'evolutionist" (i.e. evolutionary theory) says nothing about the origin of life.

The creationist has a theory as to how life began - 'goddidit'.

Can you prove it?

[Sender]

The big bang sugests energy created itself. That is impossble. You are right, they can't prove it. Can you tell me? It sounds like you can't.

[Chad]

The big bang sugests energy created itself. That is impossble. You are right, they can't prove it. Can you tell me? It sounds like you can't.

The Big Bang Theory makes no suggestion as to what happened before the Big Bang. Read this Wikipedia article for a fairly good explanation of the Big Bang Theory.

[Sender]

The big bang sugests energy created itself. That is impossble. You are right, they can't prove it. Can you tell me? It sounds like you can't.

The Big Bang Theory makes no suggestion as to what happened before the Big Bang. Read this Wikipedia article for a fairly good explanation of the Big Bang Theory.

Well then where did the energy come from?

[Chad]

The big bang sugests energy created itself. That is impossble. You are right, they can't prove it. Can you tell me? It sounds like you can't.

The Big Bang Theory makes no suggestion as to what happened before the Big Bang. Read this Wikipedia article for a fairly good explanation of the Big Bang Theory.

Well then where did the energy come from?

That is purely speculative because we do not yet know, nor may we ever know.

However, if you assume that it came from a God you get caught up in a logic trap. If the matter was created by a God, where did that God come from? Or the God before that (And so on)? It would have taken a very intelligent God to create matter, so it would presumably take an even smarter God to create that God that created the matter (And so on). If you assume that God just existed, then you could as easily assume that matter just existed, in which case there would be no need for God at all.

[Sender]

That is purely speculative because we do not yet know, nor may we ever know.

Thats why I said what I said in the first palce. bernee denied what I said, you proved me right. I think he is a <b>troll</b> I suspect he is hiding, he he, that's all. Thanks chad.

[Chad]

That is purely speculative because we do not yet know, nor may we ever know.

Thats why I said what I said in the first palce. bernee denied what I said, you proved me right. I think he is a <b>troll</b> I suspect he is hiding, he he, that's all. Thanks chad.

I think maybe you have missread/missunderstood Bernee. I'm reading back through the topic and I can find no such place where he denied a statement such as the one I made at the beginning of my previous post.

[bernee51]

That is purely speculative because we do not yet know, nor may we ever know.

Thats why I said what I said in the first palce. bernee denied what I said, you proved me right. I think he is a <b>troll</b> I suspect he is hiding, he he, that's all. Thanks chad.

Yeah a troll - with 900+ posts.

I'm hiding from you - I stand in awe of you.

As if.

BTW According to the definition, if I am a troll, so are you.

Who are you anyway - Upnorthfan or Sender.

Same avatar, same 'thinking'.