Athiesm religion in drag?

[former athiest]

It seems to me that Athiesm is just religion in drag.
It's not founded on science.
Science is the pursuit of understanding.
Athiesm is founded on faith. Faith in the nonexistance of god.
Athiesm is not founded on any scientific facts. Only theories.
Athiesm perverts science to promote it's own agendas just like christianity.
Athiesm is no more factual than christianity.

[Cathar1950]

In this case the OP shows a glaring lack of understanding of Atheism so I can only conclude he was never really and Atheist.

I have only 1 claim regarding atheism.

Athiesm is not founded on fact.

Until you can show the facts proving atheism. Athiesm is not founded on fact. Which proves my point and shows your own "glaring lack of understanding of Atheism" that you yourself did not see the fact that atheism is not founded of fact.

Disbelief in uniconrs and fairies are not founded on facts either. They are founded on lack of facts.

[k-nug]

Since you have no clue

I thought that personal insults where against forum policy?

I also think that people, resort to insults in the absence of a valid argument. I may be wrong.

All he said is that you are ignorant of the facts. It is not a personal insult.

[McCulloch]

Moderator Opinion

Since you have no clue

I thought that personal insults where against forum policy?

I also think that people, resort to insults in the absence of a valid argument. I may be wrong.

All he said is that you are ignorant of the facts. It is not a personal insult.

I think that the original quote could very well be interpreted and intended as not being a personal attack. However, it is a poor choice of words to convey that idea. It would have been less insulting to simply point out that certain information is missing and to provide further evidence.

Let's be careful out there. Focus on the issues and not on the debaters.

[Cmass]

McCulloch wrote:

I think that the original quote could very well be interpreted and intended as not being a personal attack. However, it is a poor choice of words to convey that idea. It would have been less insulting to simply point out that certain information is missing and to provide further evidence.

Let's be careful out there. Focus on the issues and not on the debaters.

I completely agree with your assessment. I was not paying particularly close attention to my wording on this one - although I do think I clarified my view and softened up a bit in further posts including this:

Mr. Former Atheist,
I apologize if you found my comments regarding your lack of knowledge to be unpalatable. For all I know you could be the nicest guy in the world in real life.

I really mean that. Former Atheist or any of you could very well be a good friend of mine from down the street. I will never know. I also just noticed that Former Atheist is very new - but I have not yet seen anyone welcome him to the forum.

So,

Welcome Mr. Former Atheist!
(I just gave you a welcome wagon gift of 5 yummy tokens you can spend any way you want.)

There are some fascinating people in here - even those who seem gruff. While I do indeed learn a lot from people who share my world view, I also learn from those I most disagree with. I hope you can have as positive experience as I have here - this is by far the best forum on religion on the web.
You might want to check out some of the groups you can join - including mine called "Tries to be civil". This is a self-therapy group for people who promise to try to be civil but recognize they sometimes miss the mark. I started the group due to a quote I once heard: "Teach what you want to learn."

A few of the masters in here include (Included in this group are Christians, agnostics and atheists): Micatala, McCulloch, Otseng, Achilles, Confused, Cathar, Metatron, Magusyanam and many more. I can't recommend highly enough reading through some of the debates these folks are engaged in.
Enjoy!

[Cmass]

I would sure love to see a response to this one:

Former atheist wrote:

I have only 1 claim regarding atheism.

Then why do you have 9 statements concerning atheism in your OP ranging from atheism being dressed in drag to atheism perverting science to atheists have some kind of agenda? (You have yet to give me specifics about how, as an atheist, I am perverting science or what my agenda is)

Former atheist wrote:

Athiesm is not founded on fact.

Correct. Atheism is founded on lack of facts. OK?

Former atheist wrote:

Until you can show the facts proving atheism. Athiesm is not founded on fact.

Correct. See above.

Former atheist wrote:

Which proves my point and shows your own "glaring lack of understanding of Atheism" that you yourself did not see the fact that atheism is not founded of fact.

I apologize in advance, but this is one of the most confusing sentences I have read in a long time. I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Goat]

In this case the OP shows a glaring lack of understanding of Atheism so I can only conclude he was never really and Atheist.

I have only 1 claim regarding atheism.

Athiesm is not founded on fact.

Until you can show the facts proving atheism. Athiesm is not founded on fact. Which proves my point and shows your own "glaring lack of understanding of Atheism" that you yourself did not see the fact that atheism is not founded of fact.

That is showing a lot of ignorance about most of the atheists I know.

They claim they are atheists because of the FACT there is no objective evidence of God.

Me, I just define God differently than they do.

[Flail]

I have had this same thought for awhile. An atheist takes on his unbeleif in the same way as a Christian takes on his belief. It is just a position without evidence,authority or authenticity. It is a story. They made it up. It isn't woth anything. It is incorrigible.

However, that being said, at least an atheist has no rituals and services and group traditions...they don't waste as much time with their superstion as does a member of a God club.

[bernee51]

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[Beto]

It is just a position without evidence,

It's the position of not assuming positions without satisfactory evidence. This is tricky stuff.

[Undertow]

It is just a position without evidence,

It's the position of not assuming positions without satisfactory evidence. This is tricky stuff.

I'd agree with you, although some atheists have a positive belief that there is no god. These people would be in a position with no evidence. I don't agree with this position. I'm rather what you explain; in the position of not assuming positions without satisfactory evidence. As a result, I lack belief in a god.