Biological diversity does not suggest we evolved from fish

[stcordova]

Humans are more similar to chimps than they are to trees. This was well known by creationists even before Darwin.

We might superficially then claim chimps and humans must have descended from a common ancestor. And we could rinse and repeat and say, "we're more similar to fish than to trees as well so we fish and humans must have descended from a common ancestor of fish and humans."

The problem then is we follow the logic carefully, we must therefore conclude we didn't evolve from fish, at best fish and humans descended from some unspecified a common ancestor.

So let me for the sake of argument assume evolutionism is true. What can we conclude from these diagrams:

Vertebrates descend from Vetebrates
Mammals descend from Mammals
Primates descend from Primates
Humans descend from Humans

Therefore: Humans descended from Humans

Evolutionists however will give the following non-sequitur:

Vertebrates descend from Vetebrates
Mammals descend from Mammals
Primates descend from Primates
Humans descend from Humans

Therefore: Humans descended from Fish

Here is a diagram at the anatomical level that shows a very nice hierarchical pattern from universe review.

http://universe-review.ca/I10-82-vertebrates.jpg




and then regarding the bone morphogenetic proteins

http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1- ... 18-gr1.jpg




What these diagrams show is that Fish will not give birth to anything but something fish like. It won't give rise to Primates!

As Michael Denton pointed out, superficially the structure of diversity in the biosphere suggest common descent, but the problem is it also suggest that there won't be any transitionals even in principle. Hence a careful study of the diagrams might lead one to think special creation is a better explanation since it is evident that fish don't give any hint of being ancestors to primates.

[agnosticatheist]

[Replying to post 1 by stcordova]

That's because we never evolved, nor were we created by anything here on earth. As my first two threads explain, We were abducted, and tortured through DNA, and even have supernatural abilities disabled. We have too many things in Science that concur.

Question: Was the entity responsible for our creation supernatural?

[mickeymudge]

[Replying to post 1 by stcordova]

That's because we never evolved, nor were we created by anything here on earth. As my first two threads explain, We were abducted, and tortured through DNA, and even have supernatural abilities disabled. We have too many things in Science that concur.

Question: Was the entity responsible for our creation supernatural?

That is a very good question, and I'm going to give it the best answer that I can.

From all of the research that I have done, starting with my over 30 years into the study of the Supernatural, and my study of Intervention since 2009, my educated guess at this point would strongly suggest YES.

Now I'll give you some, just some reasons why I'm sure of this.

First of all I assume you are aware WE HUMANS are supernatural. Complete with Supernatural powers to boot. Through my research, I have conclusively found that we have the following Supernatural abilities, disabled:

"Telepathy"
"Remote Viewing, aka, the third eye, aka, astral projection, aka visions or Perceive as in the bible."
"Image projection" As in a set.
"Understand, as in the bible, which turns out to be the ability to capture telepathic conversations within any vision we are viewing."
"Psychokinesis"
"Levitation" As a set.

In case you are unaware, it's backed up in the bible that we are Supernatural...

Definition of Faith (vv. 1-3)

Verse three points to the basis of this “blind faith� – and tempts me into a discursus on “intelligent design.� It reads, “By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.� In other words, what you see ain’t all we got. There is more to life and this world than mortar and wood and nails, more than DNA and atoms and particles, there is supernatural intention, design, and purpose. And that supernatural intention, design, and purpose belong to God![sic]

In correct translation, as it appears it may not be clear, God took away our natural abilities.

We are aliens to this planet, God was not our real creator, therefore Earth is not our Home. We were abducted, as I explained in my prior threads.

Faith Produces Action (Faithfulness) (vv. 4-12)

The key question in our messes, brokenness, discouragement, and exile, and in our successes, blessings, celebrations, and joys needs to be, “What is God doing and how can I be a part of that?� That is faithfulness. And that comes out of the hearts and hands of people who realize that earth is not our home.[sic]

So now onto why I'm sure something Supernatural made us.

Honestly I think just from looking at our power sets, it's obvious that serious thought had to go into the choices. Of course you do realize that the day NIH realizes that God simply dumbed us down through DNA manipulation, and we have had these dormant powers all along, Evolutionists are going to be coming out of the wood work claiming "Look at what evolution has given us now!"

Anyhow, the pattern of sets is a clue. My research finds that practically all other humanoid life that we encounter has the ability of Telepathy, clearly showing that the same creator made us all. The fact that everything uses DNA as it's building blocks, is another clue. The fact that there is so much similarity in various DNA is another clue.

Evolution has never been able to explain how it is that a branch, or mutation makes a decision to erase all of it's past history DNA, and start out as a new species. DNA would be ongoing. DNA doesn't have conscious thought, and if you think that it does, there is clearly a non natural explanation, meaning Evolution is not natural.

Russian Scientists recently discovered that DNA can be reprogrammed through the use of words. Not that they are words we know the meaning of, but the point is it's just possible that whoever makes new life, simply says paragraphs to form DNA. It's interesting just how close we are to breaking everything, and yet it seems so far away. Now go back up to the point where I'm quoting a sermon about the the world being prepare by the WORD of God. I know it sounds like a stretch, but to be honest with you, I'm finding so many things in the bible that are supposed to be taken in a literal sense.

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 31:

...
Through my research, I have conclusively found that we have the following Supernatural abilities, disabled...

Well don't that be at, here I've had supernatural abilities all this time, only it is, they've just been disabled.



First thing I'm gon' do when the pretty thing gets home is to get onto her for a-laughin' at me when I tell her I really am Superman.

...
Evolution has never been able to explain how it is that a branch, or mutation makes a decision to erase all of it's past history DNA, and start out as a new species.

DNA is replicated, with modifications, such that new species are created, and outdated, if ya will.

There is no data to suggest that DNA works to "erase all of it's past history". Small changes accumulate over time, such that some of what we may refer to as "past bits of genetic material" are no longer found.

We can observe this, in a way, by examining the DNA of a lemur, and that of a goat. There will be some common DNA among these two, and there will be some DNA they have "to themselves". It's a gross misunderstanding of DNA, and evolutionary theory, to think that one of those animals must contain all the DNA of the other'n, while having him some new DNA to go with it.

DNA would be ongoing.

Very much, though change does creep in.

DNA doesn't have conscious thought, and if you think that it does, there is clearly a non natural explanation, meaning Evolution is not natural.

Data suggests that DNA does not itself have conscious thought.

The data further tells us that DNA can produce critters, of which, at least some of 'em have conscious thought.

Russian Scientists recently discovered that DNA can be reprogrammed through the use of words...

Please present such documentation as you consider supports this notion.

Not that they are words we know the meaning of...

I'm seeing a pattern here...

"We're supernatural, only we've had it disabled" now becomes, "We can reprogram DNA through words, only don't it beat all, they won't be, ya know, arrangements of letters that actually make up a word".

Your entire notion here is laughably self-contradictory.


Alas, the god concept is not concerned with contradiction, only that the concept allows the adherent to "bypass" difficult, or unknowable notions, so they may function on a day to day basis.

[mickeymudge]

From Post 31:

...
Through my research, I have conclusively found that we have the following Supernatural abilities, disabled...

Well don't that be at, here I've had supernatural abilities all this time, only it is, they've just been disabled.



First thing I'm gon' do when the pretty thing gets home is to get onto her for a-laughin' at me when I tell her I really am Superman.

...
Evolution has never been able to explain how it is that a branch, or mutation makes a decision to erase all of it's past history DNA, and start out as a new species.

DNA is replicated, with modifications, such that new species are created, and outdated, if ya will.

There is no data to suggest that DNA works to "erase all of it's past history". Small changes accumulate over time, such that some of what we may refer to as "past bits of genetic material" are no longer found.

We can observe this, in a way, by examining the DNA of a lemur, and that of a goat. There will be some common DNA among these two, and there will be some DNA they have "to themselves". It's a gross misunderstanding of DNA, and evolutionary theory, to think that one of those animals must contain all the DNA of the other'n, while having him some new DNA to go with it.

DNA would be ongoing.

Very much, though change does creep in.

DNA doesn't have conscious thought, and if you think that it does, there is clearly a non natural explanation, meaning Evolution is not natural.

Data suggests that DNA does not itself have conscious thought.

The data further tells us that DNA can produce critters, of which, at least some of 'em have conscious thought.

Russian Scientists recently discovered that DNA can be reprogrammed through the use of words...

Please present such documentation as you consider supports this notion.

Not that they are words we know the meaning of...

I'm seeing a pattern here...

"We're supernatural, only we've had it disabled" now becomes, "We can reprogram DNA through words, only don't it beat all, they won't be, ya know, arrangements of letters that actually make up a word".

Your entire notion here is laughably self-contradictory.


Alas, the god concept is not concerned with contradiction, only that the concept allows the adherent to "bypass" difficult, or unknowable notions, so they may function on a day to day basis.

Well don't that be at, here I've had supernatural abilities all this time, only it is, they've just been disabled.

Rolling Eyes

First thing I'm gon' do when the pretty thing gets home is to get onto her for a-laughin' at me when I tell her I really am Superman.


Keep in mind that simply being ignorant or incredulous doesn't dismiss my claims. The fact is there is a heck of a lot more that proves we have powers than not.

For starters, we don't even know what the brain is capable of. The 10% brain myth is claimed to be busted by wiki, but then they turn around at the close and say we actually know very little about the brain. Dr Allen Wysneck has proven that transcranial stimulation to the left hemisphere creates savant like skills in healthy people. Clearly proving there is more to the brain than we once imagined.

Dr. Michael Persinger was able to prove a telepathic connection between two people while he had them separated in two different rooms hooked up to computers, and flashed a light in ones eyes, and the other person registered a sympathetic response.

Nina Kulagina could move objects that were close to her hands, and even stop a frog's heart from beating. Scientists claim that poltergeist activity is generated from the mind of the subject, yet not coherently controlled. Dr. John Ankerberg, Dr. John Weldon, for parapsychologists, and other psychical researchers, poltergeists are often seen as a merely human phenomenon—a manifestation of alleged human (usually adolescent) psychokinesis.

Russia and the US were in a cold war for some time, where we were both using agents that had a unique ability to remotely view any sensitive part of the other country. Now some agents were simply better than others. They needed to relax, and fall into a deep meditation. Some famous remote viewers include David Morehouse, Ingo Swann and Joseph McMoneagle. Given nothing more than coordinates, they were actually able to Astral project themselves to far away places, like Russia, and reveal to our government, sensitive information. We apparently had one guy that was excellent. Certain elements could often block access to viewers, like a thick cement wall, but this guy could look everywhere. He even divulged a Russian event that was in the making, hidden through deep walls, IN THE DARK NO LESS ! As I recall, however, their viewers ended up viewing OUR viewers. Russian spy's tailed him home one day when he stopped in at a restaurant, and they slipped him a poison pill. He's just one of the dozens out of several that were killed. Certainly we all have this capability within us, it's just disabled as described below in Isaiah. Based on it's description below, it's apparent that this ability would also allow us to be privy to telepathic conversations during remote observation.

The Tower of Babel

7 Come, let us go down and there confuse their language, so that they may not understand one another's speech.� 8 So the Lord dispersed them from there over the face of all the earth, and they left off building the city. 9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the Lord confused[a] the language of all the earth. And from there the Lord dispersed them over the face of all the earth.[sic]





*Telepathy*

This is a universal ability, instilled in all humanoids, unless they were altered like we were. This ability acts as an easy communication access point between races and family's. There would be no need to learn a language, it's universal before that adapted process. This is also much more efficient than talking. Our proof that it exists or at least existed for us, is in part from the many reports of abductees, and many passages in the bible are referring to the holy ghost and the holy spirit as people were hearing voices in their heads and had no other way to identify them. I tested this understanding, by asking someone that adamantly refuses to believe in the existence of aliens. I asked her, if she was home alone one day, and heard voices in her head, and that no one was around the house, and that she's not crazy. Where would she think these voices are coming from. She thought for a moment and reports that she would probably figure that it's either a ghost or a spirit. I looked at her in shock, and told her, what a coincidence, those are both mentioned in the bible. Obviously god disabled ours in such a way that we could still receive but not transmit. To explain how it was that God was still able to hear our thoughts and prayers, reading our minds may have been a separate ability in his secondary set of abilities. Primary abilities could be basic functions, like seeing with eyeballs, hearing with ears, smelling with the nose, and talking with the mouth, and even Telepathy, and all humanoids might have these, where as secondary abilities would be proprietary per species.

God's ability to read your thoughts would not be on the same channel as telepathy as telepathy isn't meant to always share your thoughts, just what you want to speak. In other words, if you wanted to have privacy, and not talk out loud, you could. But if God could read your thoughts, he could invade that privacy. This of course proves why he was said to be all knowing. Reading our thoughts, allowed two way communication between us and God, even though our transmit is disabled. Believing that God is all around you is a misconception brought on from people experiencing god talking to them through telepathy (generations later) and reading their thoughts, while they were not able to observe him. Today, believing that God is all around you, and can hear, and tend to your prayers, is the equivalent of having imaginary friends, as I noted earlier, God has surely passed. In the tower of Babel, God was not pleased when the people had built the tower, and as a punishment, he removed our natural Telepathy, and scattered us all over the globe. This is why we have different languages. All of these people were forced to create their own language, now realizing that they would be forced to speak through their mouths. Of course had God of not scattered us, we certainly would have created one language.

Definition of Faith (vv. 1-3)

Verse three points to the basis of this “blind faith� – and tempts me into a discursus on “intelligent design.� It reads, “By faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.� In other words, what you see ain’t all we got. There is more to life and this world than mortar and wood and nails, more than DNA and atoms and particles, there is supernatural intention, design, and purpose. And that supernatural intention, design, and purpose belong to God![sic]

Isaiah's Commission from the Lord

8 And I heard the voice of the Lord saying, “Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?� Then I said, “Here I am! Send me.� 9 And he said, “Go, and say to this people:

“‘Keep on hearing,[c] but do not understand;
keep on seeing,[d] but do not perceive.’
10 Make the heart of this people dull,[e]
and their ears heavy,
and blind their eyes;
lest they see with their eyes,
and hear with their ears,
and understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.�[sic]

DNA is replicated, with modifications, such that new species are created, and outdated, if ya will.

I noticed eradication was not part of this. So again, I stand my ground. Where does DNA get re-invented to dismiss it's mother and father from it's past. In other words, why can't we see our DNA trail in every living thing on earth, all leading to the same thing?


There is no data to suggest that DNA works to "erase all of it's past history". Small changes accumulate over time, such that some of what we may refer to as "past bits of genetic material" are no longer found.

So what you're saying is that there is no reason you can think of that would explain why are starting point would be non present in every living thing?

We can observe this, in a way, by examining the DNA of a lemur, and that of a goat. There will be some common DNA among these two, and there will be some DNA they have "to themselves". It's a gross misunderstanding of DNA, and evolutionary theory, to think that one of those animals must contain all the DNA of the other'n, while having him some new DNA to go with it.

I get that, but where does their records get erased that prove that they both came from slime?

Very much, though change does creep in.

Which still doesn't explain why we all aren't showing the same start dates.

Data suggests that DNA does not itself have conscious thought.

Not just any attempted change in DNA will hold as a change. For example, most changes if you try to randomly make changes, it will revert back to it's original settings. On a rare occasion you will get a defect, and on an extremely rare occasion you will get a positive change. Clearly there are more chances for error, then there is for positive changes. The process of Evolution would be short lived.

The data further tells us that DNA can produce critters, of which, at least some of 'em have conscious thought.

How can something without thought create something with thought?

Please present such documentation as you consider supports this notion.

http://www.spiritscienceandmetaphysics. ... equencies/

I'm seeing a pattern here...

"We're supernatural, only we've had it disabled" now becomes, "We can reprogram DNA through words, only don't it beat all, they won't be, ya know, arrangements of letters that actually make up a word".

Your entire notion here is laughably self-contradictory.


Alas, the god concept is not concerned with contradiction, only that the concept allows the adherent to "bypass" difficult, or unknowable notions, so they may function on a day to day basis.


Not at all, no one said that upon this finding, that they actually found a secret manual with the needed words and their meanings to use it!

[JoeyKnothead]

From Post 33:

Keep in mind that simply being ignorant or incredulous doesn't dismiss my claims. The fact is there is a heck of a lot more that proves we have powers than not.

Only don't it beat all, you've presented nothing beyond assertion that it does.

For starters, we don't even know what the brain is capable of.

The brain's capable of being all brainy. It's capable of being a mass of cells, cells such that, well if we said they' wasn't all celly, well, we might look like it is, we didn't have us none of them particular cells.

My point here is that we can consider the brain a myriad of ways - atoms, chemicals, electric. That you're incapable of any consideration of the brain beyond "well don't that beat all" is, I contend, an example of your lack of knowledge thereof.

The 10% brain myth is claimed to be busted by wiki, but then they turn around at the close and say we actually know very little about the brain.

I'm settin' to think some of 'em don't even use 'em that much of it.

Dr Allen Wysneck has proven that transcranial stimulation to the left hemisphere creates savant like skills in healthy people.

Please present data you consider pertinent in this regard.

Clearly proving there is more to the brain than we once imagined.

"Imagined" being here, a subjective term.

If I "imagine" the brain to be some hot chick, who's to say they thinks it's something other is more "imagined"?

Dr. Michael Persinger was able to prove a telepathic connection between two people while he had them separated in two different rooms hooked up to computers, and flashed a light in ones eyes, and the other person registered a sympathetic response.

Please present what data you think supports this notion.

Nina Kulagina could move objects that were close to her hands, and even stop a frog's heart from beating.

And this'n.

And for all the rest of the claims presented in the refrerenced paragraph.

Russia and the US were in a cold war for some time, where we were both using agents that had a unique ability to remotely view any sensitive part of the other country. Now some agents were simply better than others.

I dig it.

Only it is, I just run out of me enough tinfoil to cover this massive tater I have me of a head.

Assertions are not fact.

Please do what you can to rectify that problem.

[mickeymudge]

From Post 33:

Keep in mind that simply being ignorant or incredulous doesn't dismiss my claims. The fact is there is a heck of a lot more that proves we have powers than not.

Only don't it beat all, you've presented nothing beyond assertion that it does.

For starters, we don't even know what the brain is capable of.

The brain's capable of being all brainy. It's capable of being a mass of cells, cells such that, well if we said they' wasn't all celly, well, we might look like it is, we didn't have us none of them particular cells.

My point here is that we can consider the brain a myriad of ways - atoms, chemicals, electric. That you're incapable of any consideration of the brain beyond "well don't that beat all" is, I contend, an example of your lack of knowledge thereof.

The 10% brain myth is claimed to be busted by wiki, but then they turn around at the close and say we actually know very little about the brain.

I'm settin' to think some of 'em don't even use 'em that much of it.

Dr Allen Wysneck has proven that transcranial stimulation to the left hemisphere creates savant like skills in healthy people.

Please present data you consider pertinent in this regard.

Clearly proving there is more to the brain than we once imagined.

"Imagined" being here, a subjective term.

If I "imagine" the brain to be some hot chick, who's to say they thinks it's something other is more "imagined"?

Dr. Michael Persinger was able to prove a telepathic connection between two people while he had them separated in two different rooms hooked up to computers, and flashed a light in ones eyes, and the other person registered a sympathetic response.

Please present what data you think supports this notion.

Nina Kulagina could move objects that were close to her hands, and even stop a frog's heart from beating.

And this'n.

And for all the rest of the claims presented in the refrerenced paragraph.

Russia and the US were in a cold war for some time, where we were both using agents that had a unique ability to remotely view any sensitive part of the other country. Now some agents were simply better than others.

I dig it.

Only it is, I just run out of me enough tinfoil to cover this massive tater I have me of a head.

Assertions are not fact.

Please do what you can to rectify that problem.

Only don't it beat all, you've presented nothing beyond assertion that it does.

I'm sorry, but I'm having a problem understanding some of your lingo. I'm not even going to guess. Anyhow, What is it EXACTLY that you would like to know more about that you're claiming I have only made assertion to?

The brain's capable of being all brainy. It's capable of being a mass of cells, cells such that, well if we said they' wasn't all celly, well, we might look like it is, we didn't have us none of them particular cells.

My point here is that we can consider the brain a myriad of ways - atoms, chemicals, electric. That you're incapable of any consideration of the brain beyond "well don't that beat all" is, I contend, an example of your lack of knowledge thereof.

You contend LOL. Well I guess we haven't gotten to this point yet, but I never contend, anything I present in my claims is baked up by Doctors, Researchers, Scientists, and then redundantly matched with the bible. If you're trying to contend LOL that our brains function exactly in the way they are suppose to, can you please share your source, as I have sources that prove otherwise, about 8 of them.

I'm settin' to think some of 'em don't even use 'em that much of it.

OK, I'm seriously not able to decode what in the heck you're saying. I have to tell you the Bible is written with things that deal in the Supernatural, and you're sounding like one of them bible thumpers that has it all wrong. No disrespect meant. So I have a website I STRONGLY suggest you use to help you get your point across. It checks for spelling as well as other things.

http://www.paperrater.com/

Please present data you consider pertinent in this regard.

Well I didn't think this needs any explanation, but he has proven that the brain IS actually capable of a LOT MORE.


Professor Allan Snyder is one of the most creative and cool scientists I know. Recognized for discoveries in the fields of biology, communications, optical physics and neuroscience, he received the world's "foremost prize in communication and information technology", the Marconi International Prize, in 2001 - a prize previously bestowed on the inventor of the internet and the founders of google. His discoveries in brain science are hailed in the journal Nature as "breaking a 19th century mindset", and are declared "a breakthrough that could lead to a revolution in the way we understand the functioning of the human brain" by the New York Times. Snyder is currently the Director of the Centre for the Mind at the University of Sydney.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/bea ... lan-snyder

The word imagined was used in proper context as science has NO WAY to prove that our brains are functioning to their best ability. And now there is proof they aren't.

Dr. Michael Persinger: Well, what’s going on in the laboratory – and I have some fantastic graduate students and we work together as a team – and what we have found for example, is that if you place two different brains, two different people at a distance, you put a circular magnetic field around both. There’s a magnetic field going around like a coil, around both brains even at a distance. You make sure both coils are connected to the same computer which means they’re generating the same configuration of two different spaces.

If you flash a light in one person’s eye, even though they’re in a chamber that’s closed up, the person in the other room that’s receiving just the magnetic field now, they’re not aware of the light flashing or not, they will show similar changes in frequency in the room. And we think that’s tremendous because that maybe the first macro demonstration of a quantum connection or so-called quantum entanglement. And if that’s true then there’s another way of potential communication that may have physical application and application, for example, in space travel because there’s no time involved with it. That’s one thing we’re looking at. That’s one of our more exotic hypotheses.

http://www.skeptiko.com/michael-persing ... thic-link/

Kulagina, who was born in 1926, joined the Red Army at 14, entering its tank regiment during World War II,[3] but she was a housewife at the time that her alleged psychic abilities were studied and she entered international discourse in the 1960s.[4][5] During the Cold War, silent black-and-white films of her appearing to move objects on a table in front of her without touching them, were produced. These films were allegedly made under controlled conditions for Soviet authorities and caused excitement for many psychic researchers around the world, some of whom believed that they represented clear evidence for the existence of psychic phenomena. According to reports from the Soviet Union, 40 scientists, two of whom were Nobel laureates, studied Kulagina.[6] In Investigating Psychics, Larry Kettlekamp claims that Mikhailova was filmed separating broken eggs that had been submerged in water, moving apart the whites and yolks, during which event such physical changes were recorded as accelerated and altered: heartbeat, brain waves and electromagnetic field.[7] To ensure that external electromagnetic impulses did not interfere, she was placed inside of a metal cage while she supposedly demonstrated an ability to remove a marked matchstick from a pile of matchsticks under a glass dome.[8]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Kulagina

The Stargate Project[1] was the code name for a project established by the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency to investigate claims of psychic phenomena with potential military and domestic application, such as remote viewing, which is the purported ability to psychically "see" events, sites, or information from a great distance.[2]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Project

[Freddy_Scissorhands]

"Telepathy"
"Remote Viewing, aka, the third eye, aka, astral projection, aka visions or Perceive as in the bible."
"Image projection" As in a set.
"Understand, as in the bible, which turns out to be the ability to capture telepathic conversations within any vision we are viewing."
"Psychokinesis"
"Levitation" As a set.

So, tell me:
If we really are capable of these things, how come that, whenever we investigate this stuff under controlled condition, we are unable to confirm any of this?
I mean, these are things that should be easy to verify, and yet we always, always hit a dead-end with it...

[mickeymudge]

"Telepathy"
"Remote Viewing, aka, the third eye, aka, astral projection, aka visions or Perceive as in the bible."
"Image projection" As in a set.
"Understand, as in the bible, which turns out to be the ability to capture telepathic conversations within any vision we are viewing."
"Psychokinesis"
"Levitation" As a set.

So, tell me:
If we really are capable of these things, how come that, whenever we investigate this stuff under controlled condition, we are unable to confirm any of this?
I mean, these are things that should be easy to verify, and yet we always, always hit a dead-end with it...

That's not true. Nina Kulagina was able to perform under controlled conditions, and was even able to stop the beating of a frogs heart with her MIND.

Dozens of people were able to perform under controlled conditions including David Morehouse, Ingo Swann and Joseph McMoneagle.

But you're missing the point and the problem here as well as whats going on. You see if you look into any of the above I'm talking about, you will find weak results. This is because these abilities are disabled through our DNA.

Has it seriously never crossed your mind that we have the largest heads per body ration, in comparison to anything else we have found? Have you never thought it to be odd that your brain accounts for one fifth of your bodies needs in fuel?

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... in-need-s/

[Freddy_Scissorhands]

Has it seriously never crossed your mind that we have the largest heads per body ration, in comparison to anything else we have found?

No, this has never crossed my mind... because it's a false claim!
Our heads are actually not that big in comparison to our body.
I mean, they are bigger than many other animals, but I can point to just as many who have a higher heat/body-ratio.
Sperm whales, for example.
Or just generally ants.
...
I mean, I really don't know where you got this idea from.

Now, about these studies...
I didn't find any reliable sources on this (I did find stuff, but nothing really reliable).
Maybe you can point me to the peer-reviewed sources.
Thanks.

[H.sapiens]

Wiki on Nina Kulagina

Many individuals and organizations, such as the James Randi Educational Foundation and the Italian Committee for the Investigation of Claims on the Paranormal (CICAP) express skepticism regarding claims of psychokinesis. Massimo Polidoro has written that the long preparation times and uncontrolled environments (such as hotel rooms) in which the experiments with Kulagina took place left much potential for trickery.[11] Magicians and skeptics have argued that Kulagina's feats could easily be performed by one practiced in sleight of hand, through means such as cleverly concealed or disguised threads, small pieces of magnetic metal, or mirrors and the Cold War-era Soviet Union had an obvious motive for falsifying or exaggerating results in the potential propaganda value in appearing to win a "Psi Race" analogous to the concurrent Space Race or arms race.[11][12][13][14]

Vladimir Lvov published an article in Pravda which accused Kulagina of fraud. Lvov wrote she performed one of her tricks by concealing a magnet on her body. The article also reported that Kulagina had been arrested for cheating the public out of five thousand rubles.[15] Science writer Martin Gardner described Kulagina as a "pretty, plump, dark eyed little charlatan" who was caught on two occasions using tricks to move objects

I find no evidence of any of the others passing controlled condition tests, not David Morehouse, not Ingo Swann and not Joseph McMoneagle.


No one has been able to collect the Randi Prize: "a one-million-dollar prize to anyone who can show, under proper observing conditions, evidence of any paranormal, supernatural, or occult power."

[Replying to Freddy_Scissorhands]

Humans do not have the highest brain size to body ratio: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain-to-body_mass_ratio