Hemo compounds and dinosaurs= problems.

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Hemo compounds and dinosaurs= problems.

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Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years?

So, just how does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered by scientists at Montana State University from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s without being fossilized or completely disintegrating?

Doesn't the evidence indicate that this T-Rex died not to long ago?

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Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years?
Not that I know of. I don't know much about it, from what source did you learn that?
So, just how does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered by scientists at Montana State University from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s without being fossilized or completely disintegrating?
We'll keep this point in the air, until you address my previous one.
Doesn't the evidence indicate that this T-Rex died not to long ago?
The TOE of does not require that animals die out. You could produce a living T-rex and it wouldn't matter one bit to the TOE.

Sorry. Even if everything you've said here is true, and that you could produce for me a thousand living T-rex, evolution isn't threatened.

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Nyril wrote:
Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years?
Not that I know of. I don't know much about it, from what source did you learn that?

With in 1 million years just about everything biological breaks down...not multiply that by 80....it's pretty much common sense.
Can you provide a reference that suggest it won't?

So, just how does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered by scientists at Montana State University from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s without being fossilized or completely disintegrating?
We'll keep this point in the air, until you address my previous one.

Consider it addressed untill you can prove otherwise.
Doesn't the evidence indicate that this T-Rex died not to long ago?
The TOE of does not require that animals die out. You could produce a living T-rex and it wouldn't matter one bit to the TOE.

The strata that the T-rex was found in was used to date the heme....this is a problem for you evos.

Sorry. Even if everything you've said here is true, and that you could produce for me a thousand living T-rex, evolution isn't threatened.

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Re: Hemo compounds and dinosaurs= problems.

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YEC wrote:Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years?

So, just how does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered by scientists at Montana State University from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s without being fossilized or completely disintegrating?

Doesn't the evidence indicate that this T-Rex died not to long ago?
Source?

If i remember correctly they found heme, and hemoglobin only in fragments. Heme is quite resistant, and the bone was exceptionally well preserved.

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JWU,
If i remember correctly they found heme, not hemoglobin. Heme is quite resistant.

...if heme is so resistant, why don't they find more of it in dino bones?

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Heme being able to survive for 65 million years doesn't mean that it has to do so very often. If we find another bone as well preserved as the one in which that heme was found, then there might be a good chance that there is some, but there doesn't have to be.

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Yeesh.

From your post:
Isn’t it true that Hemoglobin breaks down rather quickly and could not last for millions upon millions of years?

So, just how does traces of the blood protein hemogloben recovered by scientists at Montana State University from a T-Rex’s trabecular tissue exist for over 80+MY’s without being fossilized or completely disintegrating?
From the article which you gave as your source:
Six independent lines of evidence point to the existence of heme-containing compounds and/or hemoglobin breakdown products in extracts of trabecular tissues of the large theropod dinosaur Tyrannosaurus rex.
The article itself says that it's broken down, you however made it sound like it was found intact - in traces, but intact.


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JWU,
Sounds like you forgot what my second paragraph stated.

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jwu wrote:Heme being able to survive for 65 million years doesn't mean that it has to do so very often. If we find another bone as well preserved as the one in which that heme was found, then there might be a good chance that there is some, but there doesn't have to be.

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Finding it...once....is not considered as very often.

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