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Replying to mgb in post #147]
A quick perusal of the case histories will show you that they are normal people; housewives with children, ordinary workers etc. They are not drug addicts.
I didn't suggest they were drug addicts. Perfectly normal people often have parties where maybe a little too much booze was around, or a joint or two made the rounds. There is a whole spectrum of people between teetotallers and drug addicts.
... but the saucers/dirigibles always seem to break down in a convenient place, just as the witness arrives. Something suspicious here. There are many parallels between dirigible and flying saucer accounts. They are the same thing.
I'm not sure I follow this. Are you saying that dirigibles routinely landed on the sides of roads? Or are these accounts from people who thought they encountered a dirigible with people inside and the normal person happening upon the broken down dirigible (whatever that could mean short if it crashing or doing a Hindenburg) just happened to also know how to repair it or provide it with H2 or He? Sounds highly unusual.
If you argue that flying saucers are of this world you must also argue that dirigibles are and they did not have flying saucer technology in the late 19th century.
What? Dirigibles exist and are man made and of this world. The first one was built and flown in 1852:
https://www.space.com/16623-first-powered-airship.html
But what does this have to do with "flying saucers" existing, or not? I don't see the connection. My argument is that what people think are "flying saucers" are not any sort of alien spacecraft but are some sort of man made craft (which could be a dirigible, for example, or something else) that they could not properly identify.
Common sense goes a long way. Why, if they are studying our natural world, would they let humans see them? There are plenty of remote areas where they could do these studies without being seen.
I agree that common sense goes a long way, and it would suggest that alien visitors from outside our solar system are not visiting Earth to study humans for the simple reason that no intelligent life outside of planet Earth has yet been found ... not even microbial life has been found yet ... so the probability that there are alien visitors coming to Earth in flying saucers seems awfully low. Plus, how would you know their intentions? Maybe they are friendly and would want to jump out and have a cold beer and find out all about Earthlings and what interactions with them would be like.
Study the case histories. In one experiment a group of abductees were sent to a psychologist to be assessed. The psychologist did not know they were abductees and reported that they were normal. She was shocked when she found out they were abductees.
They were abductees? How was that determined? She probably was indeed shocked to find out they thought they had been abducted by aliens! I'm surprised she didn't call them back to ask more questions before declaring them "normal", and possibly administer some substance abuse tests.