If god doesn't follow his own rules, why should we?

[Princess Luna On The Moon]

*Let's assume the Christian god is real*

This is mostly about the Old Testament where many rules (the 10 Commandments for instance) are listed. If god so rarely follows his own rules and often switches character traits, why should we follow anything he says? Wouldn't his lack of consistency make him rather pathetic as a supreme leader?

Also, why should we follow something even if we find it immoral? Why is harming other humans in the name of god justified? Or, why is god allowed to get away with killing, harming, or ignoring us, yet whenever something good happens, he gets all the credit?

[Wootah]

Thou shalt not kill is really better interpreted as thou shalt not murder. A judge that justly sentences a criminal to death is not guilty of murder.

[Princess Luna On The Moon]

[Replying to post 1 by Wootah]

The blood-shedder must die.
Gen 9:5,6

The blood-shedder must not die.
Gen 4:15

[Strider324]

Thou shalt not kill is really better interpreted as thou shalt not murder. A judge that justly sentences a criminal to death is not guilty of murder.

So bible god was 'just' when he sentenced the non-virgin Midianite women and their infant children to death while allowing the virgins to be kept as sex slaves?

I'm not feelin' it....

[bluethread]

Perhaps God does follow his own rules, and not the rules some men wrote down for their own reasons.

Or any rules that one applies to men for any reason, whether they are written down or not.

[bluethread]

For a reason similar to why you can do things that your dog is not permitted to do.

That's a pretty sad explanation when you need to refer to a non-sentient animal as an example.

A dog has no ability to reason and think like a human.

There is no comparison in terms of a God who could supposedly reason whilst humans supposedly couldn't. In fact, your whole argument rests entirely upon the idea that humans have no ability to reason at all.

That's a pretty empty argument, devoid of any rationale.

So, you think that the ability to reason is closer to equality to the characteristics of a deity than the ability to assimilate information and alter ones behavior accordingly is to the ability to reason? Your above evaluation and the diatribe that was the remainder of that post are just reactions from a homocentric viewpoint. If the evolutionists are correct, man is no more than a naked ape and an ape is little more than a lemur, etc. Why aren't each of these held to the same standard? Why is a naked ape so special?

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 7 by ttruscott]

Then the most obvious one of all: Thou shalt not kill. Clearly, god has no problem with killing since he's so good at it.

You are led astray by one word: kill is better understood to mean murder. Think of all the places people were ordered to kill as a proper righteous judgment of execution against them...this proves do not kill cannot refer to all killing but only some, the murderous kind of killing.

Peace, Ted

[ttruscott]

[Replying to post 1 by Wootah]

The blood-shedder must die.
Gen 9:5,6

The blood-shedder must not die.
Gen 4:15

Genesis 4:15 does not say this - it says Cain should not be killed. Why this special dispensation of grace for Cain? Because I believe he is the type for false Christians in the church, those who claim allegiance to YHWH but who offer the wrong sacrifice, the sacrifice of man's suffering and loss, not of Christ.

If GOD had allowed Cain to be hunted and killed, the the Church would have had explicit license to hunt and kill any person in the congregation they considered to be missing the mark - can you imagine?! No church would be left!!!

Peace, Ted

[ttruscott]

Thou shalt not kill is really better interpreted as thou shalt not murder. A judge that justly sentences a criminal to death is not guilty of murder.

So bible god was 'just' when he sentenced the non-virgin Midianite women and their infant children to death while allowing the virgins to be kept as sex slaves?

I'm not feelin' it....

If HE decided to execute some and in HIS mercy, not yet execute others for their crimes against HIM, who are we to condemn HIM for this mercy?

Peace, Ted

[Wootah]

[Replying to post 1 by Wootah]

The blood-shedder must die.
Gen 9:5,6

The blood-shedder must not die.
Gen 4:15

If you sincerely wish to examine those verses perhaps a new thread is better?

[Princess Luna On The Moon]

[Replying to post 1 by Wootah]

Every time a biblical contradiction is brought up, all I've seen are Christians 'debunking' it because 'it was taken out of context, and that in context it makes sense.' I'm sure some are, but there are hundreds of others. Some are small, but others are really disturbing. Did you know that all four gospels contradict each other about Jesus' life and Crucifixion?

You start another thread if you wish, and you pick the contradictions you're most interested in. I'll toss in my three cents, but I don't feel like wasting my time by sifting through a long list just to find a few that sorta kinda sound reasonable, just to be complained about for 'taking it out of context.'