Perfection of man. Or imperfect God

[Greatest I Am]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

[Goat]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

Is something that has as many obvious flaws as humans perfect? Is a race that will produce people that will murder 100's of thousands of people in war perfect?

[Greatest I Am]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

Is something that has as many obvious flaws as humans perfect?

GIA wrote
If humans are born imperfect, then God's competence is in question. Are you saying God is imperfect or just not there?


Is a race that will produce people that will murder 100's of thousands of people in war perfect?

GIA wrote
War is man made. If he is following God then we must say yes.

Regards
DL

[bernee51]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

On perfection, a vedantist would agree. Pure consciousness is perfect. The Self, Atman (the manifestation of Pure Consciousness in an individual) and Brahman (Universal Consciousness) are one.

How that consciousness manifests in the phenomenal world is imperfect.

Perfection produces imperfection.

[Greatest I Am]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

On perfection, a vedantist would agree. Pure consciousness is perfect. The Self, Atman (the manifestation of Pure Consciousness in an individual) and Brahman (Universal Consciousness) are one.

How that consciousness manifests in the phenomenal world is imperfect.

Perfection produces imperfection.

GIA wrote
What acts upon this pure consciousness to make it decide to manifests in the phenomenal world so imperfectly.

Further, who is judging the validity of this imperfection.

Regards
DL

[bernee51]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

On perfection, a vedantist would agree. Pure consciousness is perfect. The Self, Atman (the manifestation of Pure Consciousness in an individual) and Brahman (Universal Consciousness) are one.

How that consciousness manifests in the phenomenal world is imperfect.

Perfection produces imperfection.

GIA wrote
What acts upon this pure consciousness to make it decide to manifests in the phenomenal world so imperfectly.

Maya - the veil of ignorance. i.e the illusion of reality

Further, who is judging the validity of this imperfection.

What do you mean by 'validity'? If you mean, is it 'real'...no.

[Greatest I Am]

Perfection

Matthew5-48
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

I have write of the fact that we are born Perfect and that we are given a Perfect world in which to evolve towards the recognition of this fact of Perfection in all of us. Many have a hard time with this concept but coming out of the Perfection of God It must be so.

Is this fact correct or am I reading Matthew wrong as to him indicating that we can attain Perfection while on Earth.

Can Perfection produce imperfection?
If God does not create all Perfect then can He claim the title of God?.


Regards
DL

On perfection, a vedantist would agree. Pure consciousness is perfect. The Self, Atman (the manifestation of Pure Consciousness in an individual) and Brahman (Universal Consciousness) are one.

How that consciousness manifests in the phenomenal world is imperfect.

Perfection produces imperfection.

GIA wrote
What acts upon this pure consciousness to make it decide to manifests in the phenomenal world so imperfectly.

Maya - the veil of ignorance. i.e the illusion of reality

GIA wrote
Last time I looked reality was not an illusion. If it was, it would be my illusion and I would have a better goat and excrete gold.
Never doubt the realness of what you see around you.
I would not like to see you walk into a bus .

Further, who is judging the validity of this imperfection.

What do you mean by 'validity'? If you mean, is it 'real'...no.

Gia wrote
Did you just agree that there are no imperfections?

Regards
DL

[bernee51]

GIA wrote
What acts upon this pure consciousness to make it decide to manifests in the phenomenal world so imperfectly.

Maya - the veil of ignorance. i.e the illusion of reality

GIA wrote
Last time I looked reality was not an illusion. If it was, it would be my illusion and I would have a better goat and excrete gold.
Never doubt the realness of what you see around you.
I would not like to see you walk into a bus .

Try for a moment to look just at the first two realms of existence - the physiosphere and the biosphere. These (which we inhabit) are made of atoms and molecules and, for all intents and purposes, are real. The third realm, however, the noosphere (the realm of the mind) is an illusion. We make of the physical world what we will. A tree can be a thing of beauty to an artist, a foresters resource, a carpenter may look at a tee and see a table, it may be a god to a tribal culture, a source of food to another.

The physical atoms and molecules do not change, what we make of them does.

God is maya

Further, who is judging the validity of this imperfection.

What do you mean by 'validity'? If you mean, is it 'real'...no.

Gia wrote
Did you just agree that there are no imperfections?

Regards
DL

The physical world is only as it can be. Something that is only as it can be must be perfect.

The imperfections reside on consciousness and occur when we mistake what we make of the world for reality.

[Confused]

Was not man created in the image of God? If so, then I would consider man to be only as perfect as the image he was created in. If God is perfect, then man is perfect, if God is imperfect, then man is imperfect.

[Greatest I Am]

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The physical world is only as it can be. Something that is only as it can be must be perfect.

The imperfections reside on consciousness and occur when we mistake what we make of the world for reality.[/quote]

GIA wrote
God has one reality only. We share in His reality. He is aware of all the other realities we try to impose on this one.
If He wants to make life an everlasting story I would guess that He could stack reality over reality ad infinitum.
This is not the case.

We have to assume that His plan is understandable and simple otherwise He would not expect the young to understand Him. If we, young and old, are to enjoy Him and love Him, we must all understand Him.

Jesus enjoyed Himself more with children than with adults because of their simpler though patterns. If we adults where smarter we would simplify our thinking and then perhaps more of us would have an easier time with understanding God.

Regards
DL


Regards
DL