Twelve Proofs that Muhammad is a True Prophet

[daylight]

My brothers and sisters everywhere! With this essay, I am not singling out the adherents of Islam - to which I ascribe - but rather I am writing this essay to every man and woman throughout the whole world.

I ask Allah that He facilitates that this essay reaches every ear, falls under the sight of every eye, and is understood by every heart...

Muhammad the son of `Abdullah is Allah's Prophet and the Final Messenger Sent by Allah to the Inhabitants of Earth.

My brothers and sisters everywhere! You should know that the Messenger, Muhammad the son of `Abdullah (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger in reality and truth. The evidences that show his veracity are abundant. None but an infidel, who out of arrogance alone, could deny these signs.

Among these proofs:

1. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) was raised illiterate, unable to read or write, and remained like that till his death. Among all his people, he was known as being truthful and trustworthy. Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of Religion or any previously sent Message. He remained like that for his first forty years. Revelation then came to Muhammad with the Koran that we now have between our hands. This Koran mentioned most of the accounts found in the previous scriptures, telling us about these events in the greatest detail as if he witnessed them. These accounts came precisely as they were found in the Torah sent down to Moses and in the Gospel sent down to Jesus. Neither the Jews or Christians were able to belie him regarding anything that he said.

2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he was reading the future from an open book.

3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.

Indeed, till our day, none has ever dared to claim that he has been able to compose words that equal-or even approach-the order, grace, beauty, and splendor of this Glorious Koran.

4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters, while striving solely for the reward of the Hereafter. Moreover, in all his actions and dealings, he was ever mindful and fearful of Allah.

5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him. This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him.

Till today, those who believe in Muhammad honor and love him. Anyone of those who believe in him would ransom his own family and wealth to see him, even if but once.

6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most influential human in history.

Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.

7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in all his doings by those who believe in him.

Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat, drink, and clothe themselves.

Indeed in all aspects of their lives, the believers in Muhammad adhere to the teachings he spread among them and the path that he traveled upon during his life.

During every generation, from his day till our time, the believers in this Noble Prophet have fully adhered to his teachings. With some, this has reached the degree that they desire to follow and adhere to the Prophet's way in his personal matters regarding which Allah has not sought of them to adhere to in worship. For example, some will only eat those specific foods or only wear those specific garments that the Messenger liked.

Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad repeat those praises of Allah, special prayers, and invocations that he would say during each of his actions during day and night, like: what he would say when he greeted people, upon entering and leaving the house, entering and leaving the mosque, entering and leaving the bathroom, going to sleep and awaking from sleep, observing the new crescent, observing the new fruit on trees, eating, drinking, dressing, riding, traveling and returning from travel, etc.

Let alone all that, all those who believe in Muhammad fully perform-even to the minute detail-every act of worship-like prayer, fasting, charity, and pilgrimage-as this Noble Messenger (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) taught and as he himself performed.

All of this allows those who believe in him, to live their lives in all aspects with this Noble Messenger as their example, as if he was standing before them, for them to follow in all their doings.

8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.

9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight. They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers.

Indeed many of the followers of this Prophet (may Allah's blessings peace be upon him), chose to follow him during the time when Islam was weak, when there were few Muslims, and when there was severe persecution of his followers on earth. Most people who have followed this Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) have done so not to acquire some material benefits. Indeed many of his followers have suffered the greatest forms of harm and persecution as a result of following this Prophet. Despite all this harm and persecution, this did not turn them back from his religion.

My brethren! All of this clearly indicates to anyone possessing any sense, that this Prophet was truly and really Allah's messenger and that he was not just a man who claimed prophethood or spoke about Allah without knowledge.

10. With all this, Muhammad came with a great religion in its credal and legal make-up.

Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who possesses such perfect mercy.

Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce, renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.

11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought.

In a full and complete manner, Muhammad spread a teaching regarding character and manners toward one' parents, relatives, fiends, family, humanity, animals, plants and inanimate objects. It is impossible for the human mind alone to grasp all of that teaching or come with a similar teaching.

All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its miraculous architecture and perfection.

12. The legal and credal make-up of the religion that the Messenger, Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who sent down this great law and upright religion.

The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him).

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[carolineislands]

Well, it's interesting to ME. The debate was interesting as well as the fact that there is so much denial and excusing and rationalizing the irrational when it comes to Islam. I'm sure it's true of other faiths as well but Muslims seem to be especially skilled in this area.

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

I believe I have smashed #1 .

Among these proofs:

2. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also foretold of everything that would occur to him and his community after him, pertaining to victory, the removal of the tyrannical kingdoms of Chosroes [the royal title for the Zoroastrian kings of Persia] and Caesar, and the establishment of the religion of Islam throughout the earth. These events occurred exactly as Muhammad foretold, as if he was reading the future from an open book.

Unfortunately, you provide no examples or sources to back these up. If you do it will come from Ahadith. Although I use ahadith to argue certain points, since muslims cite them, I must point out that we must doubt the authenticity of most, if not all, ahadith. Numerous scholars in the field of Islam have exposed a large majority of ahadith as fabrications.

In terms of isnad (links or chains of transmissions), scholars such as Ignaz Goldziher (in Muslim Studies) and Joseph Schacht (in The Origins of Muhammadan Jurisprudence) have argued that isnads had a tendency to ‘grow backwards’. Pericopes and anecdotes originating AFTER ‘Arabs conquered the Fertile Crescent ended up with isnads tracing them back to Muhammad in order to endow them with authority they would not otherwise command.

With reference to matn (wording and content of the pericope), Andrew Rippin points out (in Muslims Their Religious Beliefs and Practices) that numerous ahadith contain matters of interest to communities and political/religious parties in the generations after Muhammad, but framed as ‘predictions’ by him. Furthermore, Shacht (referenced above) notes that many ahadith fail to appear in legal discussions at a time when it would have proved imperative to reference them — this clearly points to a later date of origin for these ahadith which then ended up ‘traced back’ to Muhammad.

3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.

Eloquence and clarity? Given the Sahara–like room for interpretation you can hardly call it ‘clear’. When people point out the inconsistencies and CLEAR malice in Qur’anic passages, muslims tie themselves in knots attempting to explain these away. As for ‘eloquence’… I simply have to ask: SO? Allama Iqbal wrote eloquently, as did Marcus Cicero. That doesn’t make their works miraculous!

Furthermore, as this article points out, the Qur’an contains numerous grammatical errors rendering its status as a ‘masterpiece’ a complete nonsense, and most likely evidence of human origins.

Sorry to burst your bubble, like…

[Pazuzu bin Hanbi]

I have subsequently discovered that this post by daylight should have had a preface marking it as an article by Shaykh ‘abdur–Rahman ‘abdul–Khaliq.

[Catharsis]

Iraqi Ayatollah Ahmad Al-Baghdadi Talks about the Annihilation of America, Muslim Conquest of the World, and Declares His Support of Nuclear Bombs in the Hands of Muslim and Arab Countries

Following are excerpts from speeches and interviews with Iraqi Ayatollah Ahmad Husseini Al-Baghdadi, which aired on Al-Jazeera TV on May 5, 2006, on Syrian TV on May 3, 2006, and on ANB TV on April 14, 2006.

[muhammad rasullah]

Among these proofs:

1. Muhammad ... Before receiving revelation, he had no prior knowledge of Religion or any previously sent Message.

Muhammad grew up in Mecca, the site of the Ka`aba, and among the decendants of Abraham, Ishmael, Jacob, etc.. He knew of Christians and Jews etc. The supposition that he knew nothing of religion is highly suspect under these conditions. How could he have grown up in that culture and not known anything of the religions of the day? Not likely.

2. Muhammad also foretold of everything

So did Nostradamus.

3. Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) also brought an Arabic Koran that is the peak of eloquence and clarity. The Koran challenged those eloquent and fluent Arabs of his time, who initially belied him, to bring forth a single chapter like the Koran. The eloquent Arabs of his day were unable to contest this Koran.

This is a matter of opinion and could easily have been atributed to the people who wrote the message down for him.

4. The life history of this Noble Prophet was a perfect example of being upright, merciful, compassionate, truthful, brave, generous, distant from all evil character, and ascetic in all worldly matters,

He approved of female genital mutilation, not just participated in but STARTED the stoning to death of an adulterer, and said apostates should be executed.

5. Allah instilled great love for Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) in the hearts of all who believed in and met him. This love reached such a degree that any of his companions would willingly sacrifice his (or her) self, mother or father for him.

This could also be said of Jim Jones, Hitler, or any number of people throughout history.

6. All of history has not preserved the biography of any person in the manner it has preserved the life of Muhammad, who is the most influential human in history.

This is a typical Muslim viewpoint, because Muhammad is idolized in Islam, and to the exclusion of all other people who ever lived throughout the history of humanity, including Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, King David, Jacob, Mary, Jesus, Ghandi... every individual who has ever lived, including scientists and humanitarians and world leaders... Muhammad is the supreme idol in Islam.

Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.

You forget that, even though Islam is one of the largest religions in the world, it still has about half the number as Christianity which is older and whose practitioners all over the world are still saying things like, "Jesus, JESUS, Jesus in the morning, Jesus in the noontime, Jesus JESUS, Jesus when the sun goes down." And, "Woke up this morning with my mind just stayed on Jesus..." etc.

7. Nor has there every been a man on earth whom is still followed in all his doings by those who believe in him.
Those who believe in Muhammad, sleep in the manner he slept; purify themselves (through ablution and ritual washing) in the manner he purified himself; and adhere to his practice in the way they eat, drink, and clothe themselves.

Which is clear proof that the religion you call Islam today should really be called Muhammadism because the key figure is not Allah as proclaimed.

8. There has never been nor will there ever be a man anywhere upon this earth who has received such love, respect, honor, and obedience in all matters-small and large alike-as has this Noble Prophet.

see number 6

9. Since his day, in every region of the earth and during every period, this Noble Prophet has been followed by individuals from all races, colors and peoples. Many of those who followed him were previously Christians, Jews, pagans, idolaters, or without any religion. Among those who chose to follow him, were those who were known for their sound judgment, wisdom, reflection, and foresight. They chose to follow this Noble Prophet after they witnessed the signs of his truthfulness and the evidences of his miracles. They did not choose to follow Muhammad out of compulsion or coercion or because they had adopted the ways of their fathers and mothers.

True of other religions and religious leaders

10. Muhammad described Allah with qualities of complete perfection, and at the same time in a manner that is free of ascribing to Him any imperfection. Neither the philosophers or the wise could ever describe Allah like such. Indeed it is impossible to imagine that any human mind could conceive of an existing being that possesses such complete ability, knowledge, and greatness; Who has subdued the creation; Who has encompassed everything in the universe, small or large; and Who possesses such perfect mercy.

Nor is it in the ability of any human being to place a perfect law based upon justice, equality, mercy and objectivity for all human activity on earth like the laws that Muhammad brought for all spheres of human activity - like buying and selling, marriage and divorce, renting, testimony, custody, and all other contracts that are necessary to uphold life and civilization on earth.

Clearly you have never read the Bible or heard of Judaism, Christianity. Your supposition is pretty erroneous. Ever heard of The Law? God? Elohim? The Creator of Heaven and Earth? The one God? Jehovah Jireh (sp?) etc??? Islam is not the first religion that recognized the deity of our Creator.

11. It is impossible that any person conceive wisdom,, morals, good manners, nobleness of characters as what this honorable Prophet (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought.

Gandhi did it without a sword or genital mutilation of children or execution of apostates, or cutting off of hands of theives. And he wasn't even a prophet OR a messiah. Just a human being with wisdom, morals, good manners, nobleness of character and more.

All of that unequivocally indicates that this Messenger did not bring an) of this religion from his own accord, but that it was rather a teaching and inspiration that he received from the One Who created the earth and the high heavens above and created this universe in its miraculous architecture and perfection.

I respectfully disagree.

12. The legal and credal make-up of the religion that the Messenger, Muhammad, (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him) brought resembles the engineering of the heavens and the earth. All of that indicates that He who created the heavens and the earth is the One Who sent down this great law and upright religion.

The degree of inimitability of the Divine law that was sent down upon Muhammad is to the same degree of inimitability of the Divine creation of the heavens and earth. For just as humanity cannot create this universe, in the same manner humanity cannot bring forth a law like Allah's law that He sent down upon His servant and messenger Muhammad (may Allah's blessings and peace be upon him).

My brother, pardon me for saying this. I know you love Muhammad and I do not mean to offend you but your views are clouded by your adoration of him and your singleness of mind concerning your religion. Muhammad's laws were NOT perfect (as I have pointed out a few times already). He had faults and supported things that are still being practied to this day that are no less than barbaric -- like female genital mutilation, dismemberment, stoning to death, execution of apostates, etc. I realize he was a help at the time he came to the world and he did lead the people of that are away from idolatry. But the sad truth is that the followers of this very prophet whose main message was to discontinue idolatry have set him up as their idol and now worship him as the early Meccans did over 300 gods they were bowing down to at the Ka`aba.

This is common in other religions as well. So I am not singling out Islam. I am however replying to your supposition that Islam is the only truth and that you have proven Muhammad to be the true prophet of God. You haven't. Your suppositions are very weak, if not fallacious.

But I am glad you have found peace in the religion you embrace. Peace be unto you.

Clearly you have never read the Bible or heard of Judaism, Christianity. Your supposition is pretty erroneous. Ever heard of The Law? God? Elohim? The Creator of Heaven and Earth? The one God? Jehovah Jireh (sp?) etc??? Islam is not the first religion that recognized the deity of our Creator.

Elohim means Gods which it says in your bible in the first verse. In the beginning god created the earth. In the hebrew it says Elohim meanings Gods created the heaven and the earth. Jehovah isn't even what they called him during that time jehovah is not a hebrew word there is no J in hebrew wrong name. Muhammad and the revealation of the quran addressed God as he should have been by his attributes the all-knowing, all-wise, most merciful, the truth, the light, the cherisher, the sustainer and the rest of his 99 attributes which we know allah and call him by. http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html

Nor has the entire earth known of anyone whom every morning and evening, and many times thereafter throughout the day, is thought of by those who believe in him. Upon remembering Muhammad, the believers in him will greet him and ask Allah to bless him. They do such with full hearts and true love for him.

You forget that, even though Islam is one of the largest religions in the world, it still has about half the number as Christianity which is older and whose practitioners all over the world are still saying things like, "Jesus, JESUS, Jesus in the morning, Jesus in the noontime, Jesus JESUS, Jesus when the sun goes down." And, "Woke up this morning with my mind just stayed on Jesus..." etc.

The saying of jesus by people is in no comparison to the praising of allah!

[carolineislands]

Elohim means Gods which it says in your bible in the first verse. In the beginning god created the earth. In the hebrew it says Elohim meanings Gods created the heaven and the earth. Jehovah isn't even what they called him during that time jehovah is not a hebrew word there is no J in hebrew wrong name. Muhammad and the revealation of the quran addressed God as he should have been by his attributes the all-knowing, all-wise, most merciful, the truth, the light, the cherisher, the sustainer and the rest of his 99 attributes which we know allah and call him by. http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html

This is interesting. It seems that you are suggesting that God is not the same God as Allah. Or are you suggesting that the God of the Bible is not actually God? It's been pretty well known for quite some time that the name Jehovah is not the correct interpretation to English. God, however means God, the one God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. Are you saying that Allah and God are not the same god?

The saying of jesus by people is in no comparison to the praising of allah!

It is to them. And besides, my mentioning of the love of Jesus around the world was in reply to your assumption that nobody has ever been loved and thought of as much as Muhammad and that by the virtue of him being loved by so many people is proof that Muhammad is the true and final prophet and well, that doesn't prove anything. If sheer numbers and devotion were the final proof we wouldn't even be having this conversation would we?

Now, where's your proof that Muhammad was a true prophet of God? His stoning people to death? Consummating a marriage with a 9 year old girl? Ordering people to be killed? Approving of genital mutilation? Or how about the fact that his followers are so volatile that a cartoon can turn huge mobs into murderous rages and a film can get a man slaughtered in the street and a note pinned to his chest with a dagger to the heart? If people's devotion to him proves he is a prophet, what do these attitudes and actions prove?

There is NO proof. If there is, produce it here since you are the one who originally made the challenge.

[Goat]

Elohim means Gods which it says in your bible in the first verse. In the beginning god created the earth. In the hebrew it says Elohim meanings Gods created the heaven and the earth. Jehovah isn't even what they called him during that time jehovah is not a hebrew word there is no J in hebrew wrong name. Muhammad and the revealation of the quran addressed God as he should have been by his attributes the all-knowing, all-wise, most merciful, the truth, the light, the cherisher, the sustainer and the rest of his 99 attributes which we know allah and call him by. http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html

This is interesting. It seems that you are suggesting that God is not the same God as Allah. Or are you suggesting that the God of the Bible is not actually God? It's been pretty well known for quite some time that the name Jehovah is not the correct interpretation to English. God, however means God, the one God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. Are you saying that Allah and God are not the same god?

Actually, it is misinformation. The term elohim CAN be plural, yes, but it also can be a magnification. If the following verb is singular, then there is a magnification of importance,but having it sinugular.

People have been referred to as 'Elohim' also. Moses was called Elohim when he became lord over Aaron. Samuel was also called "Elohim". It doesn't make either Moses or Samuel plural or a god though.

[carolineislands]

Actually, it is misinformation. The term elohim CAN be plural, yes, but it also can be a magnification. If the following verb is singular, then there is a magnification of importance,but having it sinugular.

Thank you! How interesting -- this is the same in the English version of the Quran where Allah (or Gabriel I guess) is always speaking in first person plural, "We" this and "We" that. They say it's magnification as well.

People have been referred to as 'Elohim' also. Moses was called Elohim when he became lord over Aaron. Samuel was also called "Elohim". It doesn't make either Moses or Samuel plural or a god though.

Makes sense. Like people call God "Lord" and also rulers were called "Lord." Just an honorific as it were.

Thanks.

[muhammad rasullah]

Elohim means Gods which it says in your bible in the first verse. In the beginning god created the earth. In the hebrew it says Elohim meanings Gods created the heaven and the earth. Jehovah isn't even what they called him during that time jehovah is not a hebrew word there is no J in hebrew wrong name. Muhammad and the revealation of the quran addressed God as he should have been by his attributes the all-knowing, all-wise, most merciful, the truth, the light, the cherisher, the sustainer and the rest of his 99 attributes which we know allah and call him by. http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html

This is interesting. It seems that you are suggesting that God is not the same God as Allah. Or are you suggesting that the God of the Bible is not actually God? It's been pretty well known for quite some time that the name Jehovah is not the correct interpretation to English. God, however means God, the one God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. Are you saying that Allah and God are not the same god?

The saying of jesus by people is in no comparison to the praising of allah!

It is to them. And besides, my mentioning of the love of Jesus around the world was in reply to your assumption that nobody has ever been loved and thought of as much as Muhammad and that by the virtue of him being loved by so many people is proof that Muhammad is the true and final prophet and well, that doesn't prove anything. If sheer numbers and devotion were the final proof we wouldn't even be having this conversation would we?

Now, where's your proof that Muhammad was a true prophet of God? His stoning people to death? Consummating a marriage with a 9 year old girl? Ordering people to be killed? Approving of genital mutilation? Or how about the fact that his followers are so volatile that a cartoon can turn huge mobs into murderous rages and a film can get a man slaughtered in the street and a note pinned to his chest with a dagger to the heart? If people's devotion to him proves he is a prophet, what do these attitudes and actions prove?

There is NO proof. If there is, produce it here since you are the one who originally made the challenge.

This is interesting. It seems that you are suggesting that God is not the same God as Allah. Or are you suggesting that the God of the Bible is not actually God? It's been pretty well known for quite some time that the name Jehovah is not the correct interpretation to English. God, however means God, the one God, the creator of Heaven and Earth. Are you saying that Allah and God are not the same god?

What I am saying is that Allah means "the one" this is his proper name. Allah then gives us his attributes so we may understand who the one is. http://www.jannah.org/articles/names.html Now when you say God and I say Allah I say that we are addressing this differently. You refer to God as Jesus I am assuming that most christians do. And I don't refer to Allah as Jesus because Jesus doesn't have any of the attributes that Allah or God has. So now you see the difference that is why when you say I worshipp God I say no you worship Jesus. Therefore we are going in separate ways of thinking of who God is.

If we where to go by numbers of how many people are musliim and christian perhaps you might have an edge. But if you were to count regularly how many times a day muslims give praise to muhammad it would significantly outnumber the amount of times christians praise jesus on a daily basis, And we can just start with me and you for example and figure everyone else in.

You ask many questions but will you be able to answer mines?

Now, where's your proof that Muhammad was a true prophet of God?

Jesus says, John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Who is the comforter?
12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
This obviuosly is a man right!! Nine times Jesus refers to a man!!! Right!!
Who is this man that Jesus is speaking of?
This man is Muhammad! This only fits the prophet muhammad. The words of the quran were inspired by God and spoken through the mouth of muhammad! for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: He shall speak the words of God! Not of himself which the prophet did.


13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: and he will shew you things to come.
Whatever you say this comforter is tell me what new things have this person shown you other than what you already have learned from the teachings of Jesus?

14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. If you want to know what the prophet said about jesus read the quran the prophet glorified jesus saying, 3:45 Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.

Who is the spirit of truth?
John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Everytime the word spirit is used in the bible it does not refer to the holy spirit or holy ghost. From the reference above we see that a false is a false prophet and the reverse. But how ill you know who the spirit of truth is? Well the bible has given you a test and it is very simple it says;
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
basically saying that anyone that claims he is a prophet or the comforter or the spirit of truth after the coming of Jesus should be asked this simple question, who do say that Jesus is? So ask Muhammad this same question! He says, 3:45 Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
Muhammad says that Jesus is the christ of God a word from him. how does this comforter and spirit of truth not refer to Muhammad it fits him perfectly!!!

[carolineislands]

If you were to count regularly how many times a day muslims give praise to muhammad it would significantly outnumber the amount of times christians praise jesus on a daily basis,

I answer your statement with the same point everybody has been trying to make to you since the beginning of this thread -- there is a whole big wide world out there with lots of other people in it and you don't know anything about them OR their beliefs. Your belief is not BETTER than theirs, nor is it the ONLY truth. Just because you babble off the same prescribed sentences you've been doing all your life and stick your butt up in the air five times a day doesn't make you right and everybody else WRONG.

You ask many questions but will you be able to answer mines?

And what question was yourses?

Now, where's your proof that Muhammad was a true prophet of God?

Jesus says, John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
Who is the comforter?

I am assuming you are suggesting that Mohammad was the comforter? Somehow Mohammad's message doesn't seem very COMFORTING to me. Aside from that, what on earth makes you think that Jesus is referring to Mohammad?

12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
This obviuosly is a man right!!

Genesis 1:27
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
...
31 ¶ And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
1 ¶ Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.


So does this mean God is a man? If Jesus was referring to a man why wouldn't he say the "Man" of Truth instead of the "spirit" of truth? I tried to find out how many times God was referred to as HE in any of the Abrahamic texts but of course that is ludicrous because it would be in the tens of thousands.

By your logic, you are saying God is a man.

Nine times Jesus refers to a man!!! Right!!

Wrong.

Who is this man that Jesus is speaking of?
This man is Muhammad!

Even if Jesus WERE referring to a man I doubt it would be a pedophile with 40 wives who stoned people to death and ordered apostates executed and people's hands and feet cut off. Considering Jesus brought a message of compassion and forgiveness and strove to teach us that the law is never more important than the human being it was designed to help.

This only fits the prophet muhammad. The words of the quran were inspired by God and spoken through the mouth of muhammad! for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: He shall speak the words of God! Not of himself which the prophet did.

Mohammad never spoke of himself??? As a matter of fact he said anyone who didn't agree with HIM and follow HIM was to be killed where ever you find them and will burn in a firey hell while he and his followers were sexing up the magical virgins whose hymens refresh after ever deflowering.

13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: and he will shew you things to come.

And now a few quotations from my Bible:

2Ti 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
Tit 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.

Re 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Re 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image (five times a day?). These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Who is the spirit of truth?
John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

John 4:1
1 ¶ When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

I don't know whose Bible you're using. Maybe Deedat's or Naik's? Obviously not OURS.

Here's an excerpt from the real Bible, right there in John where you proposed to be (but were perhaps deceiving us?)

Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost (or spirit), whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Now, how can you claim that Mohammad is this Holy Spirit when Mohammad said Christians were to be killed where ever you found them? When did Mohammad claim to come in Jesus' name?

Everytime the word spirit is used in the bible it does not refer to the holy spirit or holy ghost. From the reference above we see that a false is a false prophet and the reverse.

Wrong again, as I have already proven above.

Quran 3:45 Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of the company of those nearest to Allah.


Muhammad says that Jesus is the christ of God

Another lie from the repertoire of DEEdat. Too bad his lies didn't die with him.

The Quran says that the the angels said his name will be Christ Jesus and he will simply be held in honor in this world and in the Hereafter BY THE COMPANY OF THOSE NEAREST ALLAH.

Mohammad says jesus is just another man... a prophet -- he does NOT say he was from God.

Quran 3:59 Surely the likeness of Isa is with Allah as the likeness of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, Be, and he was.

a word from him. how does this comforter and spirit of truth not refer to Muhammad it fits him perfectly!!!

I think there are probably more references to Mohammad in the book of Revelations.