The Qu'ran

[McCulloch]

quraan is written by allah but other books written by person so you have to read it to make sure

Well i am sure the quran is much unique from among all the other books. [...] the quran has never been changed. The quran was and is as god says himself in the quran that the quran is copyrighted. So there are millions of copys in the world in many translation--but all the same thing. Ones in english, urdu, arabic, chinese, brail... and so on. So which one shall you read? The one that says Quran or koran or coran on the cover. And as the biggining chapter introduces the author (god). You can order many free ones from islam tomorow, or even better go to your local mosque.[...]

So I went to the quran. I read it and I felt closer to god in my whole life. I actually cryed. And now i am closer to god then ever.

I have been invited to read the Qu'ran. It has been claimed that it has the answers to the questions, How can I know if God exists? and How can I know what God wants of me? It has been implied that the divine truth of the Quran is self-evident.

For Debate: If you have read the Qu'ran or part of it, is its divine origin self-evident? Does it make a convincing argument for the existence of God?

[Apple Pie]

It says, in simple english and arabic that "O People of the Book! Do not
transgress the limits of your religion. Speak nothing but the Truth about Allah. The
Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger of Allah.

What you are doing, is that you are removing son of Mary, and joining this word son with Allah. remember, there is gap between it. Any translation you take of Quran, its clearly writen there. you are not following the translation, you are changing the translation with dictionary, and making your own sentence.

Nice try, but you fail Apple-Pie once more:)[/color]

The koran was written in Arabic, brother, not English.

However, you don't know any Arabic.

U want to teach an arab arabic??:) dats y im telling you, u r just tempering the words here and there of arabic, which is not correct

If you understood classic Arabic, then you should know that the term "Trinity" never existed in the ayah that you referenced.

[Apple Pie]

[quote="Apple Pie

Why are you afraid to post it?

Post it in the Arabic.

25 AL-FURQAN - THE CRITERION
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
SECTION: 1
Blessed is the One Who has revealed Al-Furqan (the criterion to distinguish right
from wrong: The Qur'an) to His servant, that he may be a Warner to the worlds;[1]
He is the One to Whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, has
begotten no son and has no partner in His kingdom; He has created everything and
ordained them in due proportions.[2] Yet the unbelievers have taken besides Him
other gods which can create nothing but are themselves created, which can neither
harm nor help even themselves, and which have no power over life or death, or
raising the dead to life.

Arabic ->

{1}
Blessed is He who sent down the criterion to His servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures;-

{2}
He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: no son has He begotten, nor has He a partner in His dominion: it is He who created all things, and ordered them in due proportions.

{3}
Yet have they taken, besides him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.

Where is mentioned in these ayahs?

Learn arabic 1st:) look what Al-Furqann means, and what does Quran means:)

The term "Koran" never even appears in the ayat that you quoted.

[Apple Pie]

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ho nikao kleronomeo houtos kai esomai autos theos kai autos esomai moi huios

The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me. (Rev 21.7) [/color]

1st of all, these are not verse of Jesus, Revelation fulll book was rejected by christian scholars, and after too much influence of Church at the end of 364 AD, it was included, but also still it was taking out of bible again n again, proof can be provided upon req.
Further Revelation is jusr dreams of John (not the John disiple, some unknown John). so anything here can't be taken as authentic, your this proof is wrong, try again please:)

75% of the Koran was copied directly from the Book of Revelation, brother...

[Goat]

75% of the Koran was copied directly from the Book of Revelation, brother...

Prove this statement. Show an analysis by a non-biased source that shows the phrases are the same.

Muslims don't know the Koran,and Jews don't know their own scripture.. How very .. generous of you.

[Apple Pie]

75% of the Koran was copied directly from the Book of Revelation, brother...

Prove this statement. Show an analysis by a non-biased source that shows the phrases are the same.

Muslims don't know the Koran,and Jews don't know their own scripture.. How very .. generous of you.

Pick an ayah that you feel is completely devoid of any Jewish & Christian influence, brother...

[McCulloch]

The koran was written in Arabic, brother, not English.

However, you don't know any Arabic.

It is dangerous to draw conclusions about a text written in a language that is not your own. Unless you were raised with Arabic as a child or you are an expert linguist, then you must rely on the conclusions of those who are. Theologically, those who know a little Arabic are more likely to be wrong than those who know none or those who are experts.

[Apple Pie]

The koran was written in Arabic, brother, not English.

However, you don't know any Arabic.

It is dangerous to draw conclusions about a text written in a language that is not your own. Unless you were raised with Arabic as a child or you are an expert linguist, then you must rely on the conclusions of those who are. Theologically, those who know a little Arabic are more likely to be wrong than those who know none or those who are experts.

Flawed reasoning.

For the same reasoning that the natives run red lights at intersections when they are first set-up " for they are conditioned to not look for them.

[TrueReligion]

It says, in simple english and arabic that "O People of the Book! Do not
transgress the limits of your religion. Speak nothing but the Truth about Allah. The
Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger of Allah.

What you are doing, is that you are removing son of Mary, and joining this word son with Allah. remember, there is gap between it. Any translation you take of Quran, its clearly writen there. you are not following the translation, you are changing the translation with dictionary, and making your own sentence.

Nice try, but you fail Apple-Pie once more:)[/color]

The koran was written in Arabic, brother, not English.

However, you don't know any Arabic.

U want to teach an arab arabic??:) dats y im telling you, u r just tempering the words here and there of arabic, which is not correct

If you understood classic Arabic, then you should know that the term "Trinity" never existed in the ayah that you referenced.

What does it mean that "Wala Taqolu Talata'?

[TrueReligion]

[quote="Apple Pie

Why are you afraid to post it?

Post it in the Arabic.

25 AL-FURQAN - THE CRITERION
In the name of Allah, the Compassionate, the Merciful.
SECTION: 1
Blessed is the One Who has revealed Al-Furqan (the criterion to distinguish right
from wrong: The Qur'an) to His servant, that he may be a Warner to the worlds;[1]
He is the One to Whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, has
begotten no son and has no partner in His kingdom; He has created everything and
ordained them in due proportions.[2] Yet the unbelievers have taken besides Him
other gods which can create nothing but are themselves created, which can neither
harm nor help even themselves, and which have no power over life or death, or
raising the dead to life.

Arabic ->

{1}
Blessed is He who sent down the criterion to His servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures;-

{2}
He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: no son has He begotten, nor has He a partner in His dominion: it is He who created all things, and ordered them in due proportions.

{3}
Yet have they taken, besides him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.

Where is mentioned in these ayahs?

Learn arabic 1st:) look what Al-Furqann means, and what does Quran means:)

The term "Koran" never even appears in the ayat that you quoted.

The one I told u, u never follow, and thn u come and argue that you know arabic

[TrueReligion]

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ho nikao kleronomeo houtos kai esomai autos theos kai autos esomai moi huios

The one overcoming will inherit all things, and I will be God to him, and he will be the son to Me. (Rev 21.7) [/color]

1st of all, these are not verse of Jesus, Revelation fulll book was rejected by christian scholars, and after too much influence of Church at the end of 364 AD, it was included, but also still it was taking out of bible again n again, proof can be provided upon req.
Further Revelation is jusr dreams of John (not the John disiple, some unknown John). so anything here can't be taken as authentic, your this proof is wrong, try again please:)

75% of the Koran was copied directly from the Book of Revelation, brother...

Do some research, I told you, NO BIBLE HERE. if you want, make another post for bible,
And if you want to know, search out that when was the 1st bible published or writen in arabic. and when Quran was revealed. ur knowledge is very weak,