The Problem with Christian and Muslim Fundamentalists

jessehove · Post by **jessehove** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:14 pm

Here is the similar problem with Christian and Muslim Fundamentalists as I see it:

http://mercyandmessiah.blogspot.ca/2013 ... lists.html

P.S. Notice I am using a specific definition of what Fundamentalism from a historical modern definition in Christianity and Islam respectively.

kayky · Post by **kayky** » Sun May 05, 2013 1:08 am

HaLi8993 wrote:

Who taught me kaykc?? Was I brought up this way?? Certainly Not!! I searched for the truth and became a practicing Muslim.

I searched for the truth and became a practicing Christian. No one becomes a Muslim or a Christian in a vacuum regardless of hollow claims.

It's a good thing there isn't any uncertainty in our lives then lol, especially when God gives us all the answers to life, our purpose and the reason for our creation.

This is the sad delusion of every fundamentalist.

I would say this about the Atheist also, hence the reason they have developed something to supposedly answer the questions they cannot answer and are void with purpose or meaning in their lives, giving them a sense of belonging, hence the reason for the development of such theories to counter attack this problem.

I wouldn't know. I'm not an atheist.

HaLi8993 · Post by **HaLi8993** » Sun May 05, 2013 2:11 am

kaykc

I searched for the truth and became a practicing Christian. No one becomes a Muslim or a Christian in a vacuum regardless of hollow claims.

Hence the reason I am Muslim.

This is the sad delusion of every fundamentalist.

In Christianity.

I wouldn't know. I'm not an atheist.

I guess your closer to the truth then

kayky · Post by **kayky** » Sun May 05, 2013 2:20 am

HaLi8993 wrote:

Kayky: I searched for the truth and became a practicing Christian. No one becomes a Muslim or a Christian in a vacuum regardless of hollow claims.

Hence the reason I am Muslim.
This response makes no sense in light of my comment. You are giving no reason at all.

Kayky: This is the sad delusion of every fundamentalist.

In Christianity.
And equally in Islam. Fundamentalism is the enemy of true religion.

Kayky: I wouldn't know. I'm not an atheist.

I guess your closer to the truth then
I would say that the fundamentalist does not even understand the nature of "truth."

Iam · Post by **Iam** » Sun May 05, 2013 4:17 am

HaLi8993 wrote: Iam

Quote:
So this imaginary satan character toys with me, I mean how wonderful is this dude. I love, what do you do? If it's this satan dude who makes me love and it's the god dude who makes people hate, which side are you on?

I think you have it mixed up. If you truly believe this then explain to me how???
Nope not at all, as I have answered your question, but you have seemed to have not answered mine. This was the question:

"If you truly believe this then explain to me how???"

I mean ya just gotta love the "doctrine of the bogeyman". Are these the stories you use to frighten small children? If you reinforce them for long enough and often enough you will have even some adults believing them. Oh silly me why am I telling you this.
Not sure! Why are you telling me this??

Yes my apologies for missing your response. What makes you think I believe it. I merely extending your claim to it's logical conclusion. You claim that this satan dude controls me and I love. Religious fanatics claim that god controls them and they hate. Pretty simple.
Does your god frighten you into obedience to what you claim is his will, or at least muhammad and his followers claimed.

HaLi8993 · Post by **HaLi8993** » Sun May 05, 2013 5:01 am

kaykc

This response makes no sense in light of my comment. You are giving no reason at all.

Sorry about that, let me be more specific. You said that no body becomes a Muslim or a Christian based on hollow claims, hence the reason I am Muslim because Islam doesn't have any hollow claims.

And equally in Islam. Fundamentalism is the enemy of true religion.

I don't agree, I can understand why you would think this with Christianity. A Fundamentalist is one believes every word in the sacred texts as literal truth. This is the case with Islam. How would this be an enemy of Islam which is the true religion.

I would say that the fundamentalist does not even understand the nature of "truth."

In the contrary the one that believes in the true religion has grasped the hand hold of the ultimate truth.

I could understand how you could say this about Christianity because it doesn't represent the full truth.

HaLi8993 · Post by **HaLi8993** » Sun May 05, 2013 5:02 am

Iam

Yes my apologies for missing your response. What makes you think I believe it. I merely extending your claim to it's logical conclusion. You claim that this satan dude controls me and I love. Religious fanatics claim that god controls them and they hate. Pretty simple.
Does your god frighten you into obedience to what you claim is his will, or at least muhammad and his followers claimed.

Lol, do you say things you do not believe?? If for arguments sake you do not believe this the question still stands HOW?? Isn't it only fair that we provide evidence for what we say.

Iam · Post by **Iam** » Sun May 05, 2013 7:01 am

HaLi8993 wrote: Iam

Yes my apologies for missing your response. What makes you think I believe it. I merely extending your claim to it's logical conclusion. You claim that this satan dude controls me and I love. Religious fanatics claim that god controls them and they hate. Pretty simple.
Does your god frighten you into obedience to what you claim is his will, or at least muhammad and his followers claimed.
Lol, do you say things you do not believe?? If for arguments sake you do not believe this the question still stands HOW?? Isn't it only fair that we provide evidence for what we say.

I would suggest that you re-read my post and ask me to explain what you don't understand. From your response it would appear that it is all of it. But please ask and I will attempt to explain it for you.

Iam · Post by **Iam** » Sun May 05, 2013 7:05 am

HaLi8993 wrote: kaykc

This response makes no sense in light of my comment. You are giving no reason at all.
Sorry about that, let me be more specific. You said that no body becomes a Muslim or a Christian based on hollow claims, hence the reason I am Muslim because Islam doesn't have any hollow claims.

And equally in Islam. Fundamentalism is the enemy of true religion.
I don't agree, I can understand why you would think this with Christianity. A Fundamentalist is one believes every word in the sacred texts as literal truth. This is the case with Islam. How would this be an enemy of Islam which is the true religion.

I would say that the fundamentalist does not even understand the nature of "truth."
In the contrary the one that believes in the true religion has grasped the hand hold of the ultimate truth.

I could understand how you could say this about Christianity because it doesn't represent the full truth.

This truth is contained in the koran? Yes?

HaLi8993 · Post by **HaLi8993** » Sun May 05, 2013 7:55 am

Iam

I would suggest that you re-read my post and ask me to explain what you don't understand. From your response it would appear that it is all of it. But please ask and I will attempt to explain it for you.

What do you believe and why??

This truth is contained in the koran? Yes?

Yes.

Iam · Post by **Iam** » Sun May 05, 2013 8:18 am

HaLi8993 wrote: Iam

I would suggest that you re-read my post and ask me to explain what you don't understand. From your response it would appear that it is all of it. But please ask and I will attempt to explain it for you.
What do you believe and why??

This truth is contained in the koran? Yes?
Yes.

1)What do I believe about what?
2)What was muhammad supposed to read?