Regarding love

scorpia · Post by **scorpia** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:33 pm

Some believers; I think love is a special force. God is love so we should love one another! Peace man!

Some unbelievers: Dude love is the chemical found in chocolate you think God is love go worship a mars bar or something

Funny, no?

But you know what, the next time this happens, I am really going to break something. Why? Because love isn't chocolate. Yes, there are certain chemicals that are contined withing this little snack that cause the emotional response for love, I'm sure you read some quaint little article about it somewhere. But why should this mean that the chemical alone is what love is? If I, say remove certain portions of your brain responsible for emotion, and I give you the chemical, you aren't going to feel anything, are you? You know why, because the chemicals aren't the cause, they seem to me more of a trigger. The sensation of love, although triggered by chemicals, is due to the wiring and programming in your limbic system. Love would be whatever wiring goes on there.

Thank you

AClockWorkOrange · Post by **AClockWorkOrange** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:40 pm

Love is when one person fullfills anothers values.

Confused · Post by **Confused** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 9:57 pm

AClockWorkOrange wrote:Love is when one person fullfills anothers values.

In that case, everyone is always in love with everyone else. An employee who does his job as his employer wishes him to is loved by his employer. A hired killer who kills his mark is loved by the one who hired him. Should I go on?

AClockWorkOrange · Post by **AClockWorkOrange** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:41 am

^_^ would you a that there are different depths of love?

Does one love their mother the same as they love their dog? (i dont want to hear semantics)

Aquiantanceship is a (weak) form of love.

scorpia · Post by **scorpia** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:21 pm

What if it is just the information that needs to be understood? That way it would not matter if the information is biochemical or digital(as long as the system is capable of reading the information). This way a biological system would respond differently to the same information if it is presented digitally rather than chemically. Yet that same digital information may make an AI have a feeling of love.

That was what I was thinking.

In regards to procreation, I say it because this is the only type of love I can experience, the love for my children. I don't say that my barriers are healthy. But because of how I define love, the fact that it is utopian so no man could ever meet it, then I can't imagine a computer meeting it unless it was programmed to do so, then of course I would know it to be false.

People are computers in a sense or at least their brains are; just very mushy computers. And if you are a computer what if your love is false?

I don't know if this hurts your "barriers" and sorry if it does amybe I shouldn't go any futher in this debate.

Confused · Post by **Confused** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 3:02 am

scorpia wrote:
What if it is just the information that needs to be understood? That way it would not matter if the information is biochemical or digital(as long as the system is capable of reading the information). This way a biological system would respond differently to the same information if it is presented digitally rather than chemically. Yet that same digital information may make an AI have a feeling of love.
That was what I was thinking.

In regards to procreation, I say it because this is the only type of love I can experience, the love for my children. I don't say that my barriers are healthy. But because of how I define love, the fact that it is utopian so no man could ever meet it, then I can't imagine a computer meeting it unless it was programmed to do so, then of course I would know it to be false.
People are computers in a sense or at least their brains are; just very mushy computers. And if you are a computer what if your love is false?

I don't know if this hurts your "barriers" and sorry if it does amybe I shouldn't go any futher in this debate.

No, my barriers have been 35 years in the making, so I don't think one thread will even dent it. The fact is, I am not a computer. But if I had a choice of one to meet my criteria of love, I would choose a computer because it can't fall out of love with you unless it is programmed to do so. Since I get to program it, it is what I would consider a negligible risk to allow it past my barriers. But somehow, I just don't know that one could make one lifelike enough to pass muster. If so, can I put in an order for one to look like Matthew McConnahauy now?