For debate:Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
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For debate:Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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I think he wrote earlier that only "saints" can know if he is a saint or not. So these other churches.. aren't saints.OnceConvinced wrote:If this guy was a saint, he wouldn't be on a website like this. He'd be a celebrity amongst the churches. They'd all be wanting him to visit their churches and towns, speaking on stage, do evangelical crusades etc.JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 40 here:
For debate:Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
Believers don't need to know whether I'm a saint or not. They're only interested in hearing the voice of the Lord, which is the gospel I preach to them.Blastcat wrote:I think he wrote earlier that only "saints" can know if he is a saint or not. So these other churches.. aren't saints.OnceConvinced wrote:If this guy was a saint, he wouldn't be on a website like this. He'd be a celebrity amongst the churches. They'd all be wanting him to visit their churches and towns, speaking on stage, do evangelical crusades etc.JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 40 here:
For debate:Psalm139 wrote: ...
A saint isn't used by our Creator for that purpose. He uses psychics to totally confuse non-believers who believe they can tell their future.
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Please offer some means to confirm the claims are true.
Pretty air tight reasoning.
I asked him about that.. IF only saints can know if he is a true saint or not..
1. Why bother with people who won't be able to know of his "sainthood"?
2. Why do these other "saints" who can, NEED to hear his words?
It looks like I would need to "follow" him into his new sub-forum to find out.
But I have a few reasons not to do so:
1. I don't feel like giving someone the bogus ego gratification of following him anywhere.
2. I don't feel like giving anyone the ability to say that even Blastcat the atheist is following him anywhere.
3. I don't feel like supporting delusions.
On the other hand. dealing with the crazy ideas of the world is why I'm in here.
There's a song by the Christian Rock group Abandon called Hero, which starts out describing Jesus:OnceConvinced wrote:If this guy was a saint, he wouldn't be on a website like this. He'd be a celebrity amongst the churches. They'd all be wanting him to visit their churches and towns, speaking on stage, do evangelical crusades etc.
He walked the dirty streets
Famous for nothing
Yet was welcomed into Jerusalem as a huge celebrity.sfisher wrote:There's a song by the Christian Rock group Abandon called Hero, which starts out describing Jesus:OnceConvinced wrote:If this guy was a saint, he wouldn't be on a website like this. He'd be a celebrity amongst the churches. They'd all be wanting him to visit their churches and towns, speaking on stage, do evangelical crusades etc.
He walked the dirty streets
Famous for nothing
Moderator CommentSailingCyclops wrote:Research is a valid way to discover truth, to study, to learn, to challenge your beliefs. Your disdain and total misunderstanding of research and evidence is disturbingly clear from your posts.Psalm139 wrote: Researching for evidence is a great way for plagiarizers to make people think they are smarter than they really are. Most people can't speak from their own hearts about the things they believe in. They need outside support to convince someone that they understand what they believe.
Yes I do.Psalm139 wrote:Do you think I'm stupid?
OnceConvinced wrote:sfisher wrote:There's a song by the Christian Rock group Abandon called Hero, which starts out describing Jesus:OnceConvinced wrote:If this guy was a saint, he wouldn't be on a website like this. He'd be a celebrity amongst the churches. They'd all be wanting him to visit their churches and towns, speaking on stage, do evangelical crusades etc.
He walked the dirty streets
Famous for nothingHe was welcomed by God's chosen believers, not the antichrists who had him killed by the Roman government. It won't be long before my time here on earth is over for the same reason.Yet was welcomed into Jerusalem as a huge celebrity.
One non-believer won't change a thing in this world.I'm sure if Jesus had the internet in his time he'd know that he wasn't going to get anywhere and that he needed to get out there and prove himself.
Do you believe this guy to be a saint?
I personally don't and see no point in giving him attention.
This claim is wrong by a factor of 100 or more.Psalm139 wrote: One non-believer won't change a thing in this world.
Well then, what are you waiting for? Produce your evidence so we common folk can chew on it, digest it, and possible regurgitate it back at you.Psalm139 wrote: I know exactly how we were created and I can produce all kinds of evidence to support this claim ....
I have, and have concluded my thinking comes from my brain, my locomotion comes from my legs and feet, my strength comes from my muscles, and my view of the environment comes through my eyes. It is delusional to believe these attributes of the human body come from somewhere, or from someone, who is unseen, unheard, undetectable, ethereal, and or imaginary.Psalm139 wrote: You may think I'm delusional but haven't you ever questioned where you get your thoughts from?