Philbert's invisible flying pink unicorn

[Dantalion]

If you wish, I can convincingly demonstrate that the invisible pink unicorn exists, right in your own house. No kidding, start a new thread if you want the reasoning.

Go for it

[ndf8th]

I got curious and wrote Invisible pink unicorn in the Facebook search for group
or communities, Netherland has a closed group with 8 members .

then I tested with FLying spaghetti monster and found one combination
named FLying spaghetti monster or invisble pink unicorn
that was also closed and had 10 members.

FLying spaghetti monster as a religion had 83.000 likes.
and they have an open group with 1300 members so compared to IPU
the FSM seems more attractive to the atheists despite being made up
much much later so it has had less time to get known.

Should not atheists have some logical explanation what that is more logical
to support a FLying spaghetti monster than an Invisible Pink Unicorn?

i find the Invisible Pink Unicorn to be really cute looking but kind of childish?
It reminds me too much of "My Little Pony" who also is cute and pink and is popular
among very small kids.

Nothing wrong with being childish we have all been there liking cute things
but from logical atheists one expect something more realistic like an atheistic Jesus?

Dawkins joked about that too that as atheists we could take Jesus back as one
of us only a bit more delusioned and make a real humanist out of him
by deprogramming him from his delusions? some X-mas text he wrote that only exist
on paper and not online?

I am most likely too naive but would it work to make a literal guy or woman
that one say exist in the future and that one have as an atheist idol?

Oops correction I did not spell correct so IPU has more likes than what I found first

Invisible Pink Unicorn
Interest
6,064 like this

So that is as an interest. And there is a closed group with 76 members
but compare this with the open group of FSM having 1300 members
and one have to explain why slippery tentacles is more attractive
then a good looking Unicorn. Atheists have sick humor most likely

And this. Many atheists are extremely aggressive Vegans so why on earth
use MeatBalls as eyes? Seems a no no to me who is not Vegan at all.

[ndf8th]

Here is how the closed group of IPU explain why they set it up

... many atheists believe in alien life, and not only that, but intelligent alien life,
for which there is also no evidence.

The point of the website, guild and now this Facebook group
is to expose the hypocrisy of comparing theism to belief in
an invisible pink unicorn when many atheists have the exact same belief,
only in aliens instead of a deity.

I guess that explains why they have to set it to closed.
So that is most likely to derail this thread if we start to compare IPU
with atheist belief in Alien Intelligent life forms on other planets.

I come to think of TransHumanists that seems to not only believe in
but see as inevitable future fact that the Singularity of AI will take over.

How do they know such at all? Wishful thinking it is

[A Troubled Man]

The thought about the work bench you are going to build from the pile of scrap wood is an essential part of the work bench. No thought about the work bench = no work bench.

The thought is to the work bench what the zygote and DNA is to you and me. The thought contains the information the work bench will be built from. This info is required, not optional.

The flaw in that is the fact we are able to envision a workbench from the pile of scraps. We don't envision a metal workbench or one made of plywood if our scraps are pieces of pine and mahogany. The information for the workbench is indeed right in front of us. That is not so for the IPU, there is no information on which to form the vision.

[ndf8th]

[Replying to post 33 by A Troubled Man]

there is no information on which to form the vision. (of a IPU)

But we have seen horses and Zebras and Donkeys and similar animals?
The horn maybe is very unsual in that it is straight while most horns are bended.

but are there not antolopes with very straight horns? And the pink color
is also known from Ibu bird having a nice pink color so it is not impossible.

I find it easier to see a live existing Pink Unicorn in my imagination
that compared to see a live Flying Spaghetty Moster unless I go to
SciFy horror movies. But I see your point.

What about other things are not really material. Take Political Correctness.
Is that not really existing? Politicians get fired due to PC having the political power
to shame people enough to make it impossible for them to hold t
he positions they have. that is very real existence to me.

And Bullying is based on the idea that you have to punish those
that are so different than you that they need to be shown they don't
belong to the In Group so even of Bullying is just an idea in the head
of the Bully the very actions of doing the Bullying establish that practice
as a real live fact among those involved. Often the School can do nothing
more than to move the person being bullied to a another school because
the Bullies has the power and would cost the School too much reputation
to questions that long time held power. Established when the school started.

I trust a religious tradition works very much like Political Correctness and
how Bullying also works. The political actions of the PC supporters and the
social psychology actions of the Bully and his or her supporters establish
a real live "existence" of a way to be human. God's presence get manifested
by the acts of faith by the believers. A kind of "Hive" collective presence.

Each believer act as if God really exists and all these acts of faith becomes
how God is presented and established as a social fact in that community.

[A Troubled Man]

But we have seen horses and Zebras and Donkeys and similar animals?
The horn maybe is very unsual in that it is straight while most horns are bended.

The origins of unicorns go back to early Greeks and explorers who mistakenly assumed everything from goats, antelope, rhinoceros, oryx, etc. were unicorns. Even Marco Polo claimed to see a unicorn, but it was a rhinoceros, instead.

And the pink color is also known from Ibu bird having a nice pink color so it is not impossible.

Yes, colors leap out when something is invisible. Perhaps, it should just be IU.

What about other things are not really material. Take Political Correctness.
Is that not really existing?

You're talking apples and oranges. Compare an object to an object and a concept to a concept.

Each believer act as if God really exists and all these acts of faith becomes
how God is presented and established as a social fact in that community.

Their faith is a fact, but beyond their faith, there are no facts regarding gods.

[Ooberman]

I can prove the PU exists:

1. Everything that has a beginning of its existence has a cause of its existence;
2. The universe has a beginning of its existence;
Therefore:
3. The universe has a cause of its existence.

We call that cause the Pink Unicorn.

Simple.

[ndf8th]

I can prove the PU exists:

1. Everything that has a beginning of its existence has a cause of its existence;
2. The universe has a beginning of its existence;
Therefore:
3. The universe has a cause of its existence.

We call that cause the Pink Unicorn.

Simple.

I think that shows how useless philosophical logic is.
You can give such rhetoric spin for almost anything.

If one instead see religious traditions as a kind of Tribal Global Company
that invest in their customers wanting some 10% of their monthly income back
then it makes more sense.

these religious tradition must have something to sell and they sell eternal life.
To make that something the potential believer can buy into they have to hide
that it is all a false promise so they assure that God is alive and real and existing
and a supernatural power that created all there is and that is why God can
promise eternal life.

But when one buy this whole package then one are by contract obliged
to not get aware of that secret scam or else one have to leave the group
as an atheist. so they sell a wishful thinking pretending it is the real thing.