The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

[elderchild]

Truth IS, as Paul testified, "G-D was in The Messiah", Paul did not testify that 'g-d was the messiah'.......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

And Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D" and The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father".......

Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D, WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

John 17:3 "And this is Eternal Life, that they might know YOU The Only True G-D, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent".......

Mark 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto The Messiah, Well, Master, You have said The Truth: for there is ONE G-D; and there is NONE OTHER but HE. And to love HIM with all your heart, and with all your understanding, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and to love his neighbor as yourself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices".......

Rom 3:30 "Seeing it is ONE G-D, WHO shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith".......

1 Cor 8:6 "But to us there is but ONE G-D, The Father, of WHOM are all things, and we in HIM; and one Master, The Messiah, by Whom are all things, and we by Him".......

Eph 4:6 "ONE G-D, Father of ALL, WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......

John 4:24 "G-D is A SPIRIT: and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth"....... Luke 24:39 The Messiah testified, "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, handle Me and see, for A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES, AS you see I HAVE".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL can not die.......period.......

The Messiah died and "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL raised Him from among the dead".......

James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of G-D, for G-D CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with evil, neither tempts HE any man".......

Heb 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest(The Messiah) Who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, for He WAS in all points TEMPTED like we are, yet without sin".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with sin AS THE MESSIAH WAS.......period.......

1 Tim 2:5 "There is ONE G-D, and one mediator between G-D and men, the man The Messiah".......

James 2:19 "You believe that there is ONE G-D, you do well, yet the devils also believe, and tremble".......

John 20:17 "The Messiah said unto her, Touch Me not; for I have not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My G-D, and your G-D."

Mark 3:33-35 "The Messiah answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brethren"? And He looked round about on them which sat about Him, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whoever shall do The Will of G-D, the same is My brother, and My sister, and mother"".......

Rom 8:29 "Whom G-D did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of HIS Son, that The Messiah might be the firstborn among many brethren".......

Hope is you are one of the brethren of The Messiah.......

The brethren of The Messiah know there is Only ONE True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "HE Created all things by The Messiah".......

And "The Messiah is The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father" and that His "G-D and Father" was also the "G-D and Father" of His Brethren.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god, for HE IS G-D, and HE has no father, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE has no brethren, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "experience The Messiah and The Power(Our Father) that raised Him from among the dead".......

The Faith of those who receive "the love of The Truth" will be grounded in Miracles, not mere colored marks(words) written on a dead tree(page) and bound in a book.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......

Truth is never ending....... francisTruth IS, as Paul testified, "G-D was in The Messiah", Paul did not testify that 'g-d was the messiah'.......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D".......

And Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

The Messiah testified of, "The Only True G-D" and The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father".......

Paul testified of "ONE G-D, Father of ALL".......

Paul testified, "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world has been hid in G-D, WHO CREATED ALL things by The Messiah".......(Eph3:9)

There is Only ONE True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE IS The G-D and Father(Creator) of The Messiah and His brethren.......

John 17:3 "And this is Eternal Life, that they might know YOU The Only True G-D, and The Messiah, Whom YOU have sent".......

Mark 12:32-33 "And the scribe said unto The Messiah, Well, Master, You have said The Truth: for there is ONE G-D; and there is NONE OTHER but HE. And to love HIM with all your heart, and with all your understanding, and with all your soul, and with all your strength, and to love his neighbor as yourself, is more than all whole burnt offerings and sacrifices".......

Rom 3:30 "Seeing it is ONE G-D, WHO shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith".......

1 Cor 8:6 "But to us there is but ONE G-D, The Father, of WHOM are all things, and we in HIM; and one Master, The Messiah, by Whom are all things, and we by Him".......

Eph 4:6 "ONE G-D, Father of ALL, WHO is above all, and through all, and in you all".......

John 4:24 "G-D is A SPIRIT: and they that worship HIM must worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth"....... Luke 24:39 The Messiah testified, "Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself, handle Me and see, for A SPIRIT DOES NOT HAVE FLESH AND BONES, AS you see I HAVE".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL can not die.......period.......

The Messiah died and "The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL raised Him from among the dead".......

James 1:13 "Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of G-D, for G-D CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with evil, neither tempts HE any man".......

Heb 4:15 "For we do not have a high priest(The Messiah) Who cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities, for He WAS in all points TEMPTED like we are, yet without sin".......

The ONE and Only True G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE CAN NOT BE TEMPTED with sin AS THE MESSIAH WAS.......period.......

1 Tim 2:5 "There is ONE G-D, and one mediator between G-D and men, the man The Messiah".......

James 2:19 "You believe that there is ONE G-D, you do well, yet the devils also believe, and tremble".......

John 20:17 "The Messiah said unto her, Touch Me not; for I have not yet ascended to My Father: but go to My brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto My Father, and your Father; and to My G-D, and your G-D."

Mark 3:33-35 "The Messiah answered them, saying, "Who is My mother, or My brethren"? And He looked round about on them which sat about Him, and said, "Behold my mother and my brethren! For whoever shall do The Will of G-D, the same is My brother, and My sister, and mother"".......

Rom 8:29 "Whom G-D did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of HIS Son, that The Messiah might be the firstborn among many brethren".......

Hope is you are one of the brethren of The Messiah.......

The brethren of The Messiah know there is Only ONE True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, "HE Created all things by The Messiah".......

And "The Messiah is The Son of The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL".......

The Messiah testified that He had a "G-D and Father" and that His "G-D and Father" was also the "G-D and Father" of His Brethren.......

And The ONE and Only True Living G-D, Father(Creator) of ALL, HE has no god, for HE IS G-D, and HE has no father, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL, and HE has no brethren, for HE IS Father(Creator) of ALL.......

Hope is there would be those who experience The Miracle that is receiving "the love of The Truth" for they will "experience The Messiah and The Power(Our Father) that raised Him from among the dead".......

The Faith of those who receive "the love of The Truth" will be grounded in Miracles, not mere colored marks(words) written on a dead tree(page) and bound in a book.......

Peace, in spite of the dis-ease(no-peace) that is of this world and it's systems of religion, for "the WHOLE(not just a portion) world is under the control of the evil one" indeed and Truth.......

Truth is never ending....... francis

[ConfinedIX]

And how am i to know that you are a moderator?

[Administrator] [Moderator] [User] [Spider]

Being observant helps ones knowledge grow.

The Truth needs be received, The Truth can not be arrived at in debate.

Truth - the true or actual state of a matter

Receive - to take into one's possession, to get or be informed of

Arrive - to come to a certain point in the course of travel, to attain a position of success, power, achievement, fame, or the like.

Debate - a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints; a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.

Your sentence written in definition form:

The true or actual state of a matter needs to be taken into one's possession, the true or actual state of a matter cannot attain a position of success, power, achievement, fame, or the like in a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints.

You mean to tell us that truth cannot emerge from debate?

[elderchild]

So your plan is to irritate people into believing your own narrow-minded version of 'truth'?

A bit of advice: If you want people to hear you out, putting them down and yammering on about how righteous you are, whilst supplying no [/b]substance or verification whatsoever, is the wrong way to do it.

I could drone on for pages saying that you've been blinded to the true wisdom of our ancient earth-centered pagan faiths, and you wouldn't believe me, and I imagine it would bother you somewhat after a while... So I don't. Because it's called respect. You've got to give it to get it.

i respect The Truth.......

Why should i respect that which is not of The Truth?

Should one respect a lie, or the liar?

And once again personalized versions of the dictionary, just like the multiple translations of what the catholic/christians call their 'bible', have their portion
with that which causes "confusion and every evil work".......

Most certainly "i seek not to please men for if i yet pleased men" i would be a
servant of this wicked world(babylon) and it's god, he who is "the father of
lies.......

Respect? What respect is to be given the lie or the liar?

Sad it is that the multitudes don't even have a desire for The Truth for such a desire would cause them to reconsider their "ease of selflife". Such lifelessness
is a prime factor in the destruction of the earth and perversion of that which is Spirit ;-(

thedestructionoftheearth.wordpress.com

[elderchild]

And how am i to know that you are a moderator?

[Administrator] [Moderator] [User] [Spider]

Being observant helps ones knowledge grow.

The Truth needs be received, The Truth can not be arrived at in debate.

Truth - the true or actual state of a matter

Receive - to take into one's possession, to get or be informed of

Arrive - to come to a certain point in the course of travel, to attain a position of success, power, achievement, fame, or the like.

Debate - a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints; a formal contest in which the affirmative and negative sides of a proposition are advocated by opposing speakers.

Your sentence written in definition form:

The true or actual state of a matter needs to be taken into one's possession, the true or actual state of a matter cannot attain a position of success, power, achievement, fame, or the like in a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints.

You mean to tell us that truth cannot emerge from debate?

The Truth needs be received, The Truth can not be arrived at in debate.......

As for temporal truth, that which is here today and gone tomorrow, well such truth is indeed subject to the whims of every man's "imag"ination and sadly mankind's "imag"ination is destroying the earth(water, air, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Mercy, Grace, Hope. Miracles, Faith,,,,,all that is Truly Good).......

thedestructionoftheearth.wordpress.com

[ConfinedIX]

The Truth needs be received, The Truth can not be arrived at in debate.......

As for temporal truth, that which is here today and gone tomorrow, well such truth is indeed subject to the whims of every man's "imag"ination and sadly mankind's "imag"ination is destroying the earth(water, air, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Mercy, Grace, Hope. Miracles, Faith,,,,,all that is Truly Good).......

thedestructionoftheearth.wordpress.com

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

[elderchild]

The Truth needs be received, The Truth can not be arrived at in debate.......

As for temporal truth, that which is here today and gone tomorrow, well such truth is indeed subject to the whims of every man's "imag"ination and sadly mankind's "imag"ination is destroying the earth(water, air, land, vegetation, creatures) and perverting that which is Spirit(Light, Truth, Life, Love, Peace, Mercy, Grace, Hope. Miracles, Faith,,,,,all that is Truly Good).......

thedestructionoftheearth.wordpress.com

Arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.

There is no argument.......

Truth IS.......

[Jester]

Moderator Comment

Is this not the random ramblings forum?

And how am i to know that you are a moderator?

First to answer your question:
Both Micatala and I have "Moderators" listed as one of our usergroups. Beyond that, no one else on the forum seems to have trouble checking on who is a moderator before trying to argue that point.

More importantly, consider this your formal warning. We have rules on this forum that are designed to make this site about debate. Failing to follow them will get you placed on probation, then (if the situation does not improve) banned. Yes, this is the Random Ramblings forum, but that does not mean that publicly arguing with moderators is suddenly allowed. You agreed to these rules when you joined. Feel free to outline any position you'd like, but do so within the rules (For the record, responding publicly to this post arguing that you aren't breaking the rules - or anything else - is against the rules. Use a PM).
It would be both more honorable and a better witness to keep your word about following the rules of the site as well as respecting what our members consider to be basic courtesy.

[elderchild]

Moderator Comment

Is this not the random ramblings forum?

And how am i to know that you are a moderator?

First to answer your question:
Both Micatala and I have "Moderators" listed as one of our usergroups. Beyond that, no one else on the forum seems to have trouble checking on who is a moderator before trying to argue that point.

More importantly, consider this your formal warning. We have rules on this forum that are designed to make this site about debate. Failing to follow them will get you placed on probation, then (if the situation does not improve) banned. Yes, this is the Random Ramblings forum, but that does not mean that publicly arguing with moderators is suddenly allowed. You agreed to these rules when you joined. Feel free to outline any position you'd like, but do so within the rules (For the record, responding publicly to this post arguing that you aren't breaking the rules - or anything else - is against the rules. Use a PM).
It would be both more honorable and a better witness to keep your word about following the rules of the site as well as respecting what our members consider to be basic courtesy.

Once again.

Interpretation, you interpretation of the rules.......

And it has already been proven that a personal version of a "dictionary" is used by
those who declare themselves to be moderators ;-(

As for me, i believe that the multitudes should be able to hear The Truth, be
it in a forum, blog, video, tract, e-mail, phone call, etc....... for the earth is
being destroyed and that which is Spirit is being perverted ;-(

And systems of religion? They are leading the multitudes on "the broad way to
destruction" ;-(

ASimpleAndSpiritualLife.Blogspot.Com

[Cathar1950]

Moderator Comment

Is this not the random ramblings forum?

And how am i to know that you are a moderator?

First to answer your question:
Both Micatala and I have "Moderators" listed as one of our usergroups. Beyond that, no one else on the forum seems to have trouble checking on who is a moderator before trying to argue that point.

More importantly, consider this your formal warning. We have rules on this forum that are designed to make this site about debate. Failing to follow them will get you placed on probation, then (if the situation does not improve) banned. Yes, this is the Random Ramblings forum, but that does not mean that publicly arguing with moderators is suddenly allowed. You agreed to these rules when you joined. Feel free to outline any position you'd like, but do so within the rules (For the record, responding publicly to this post arguing that you aren't breaking the rules - or anything else - is against the rules. Use a PM).
It would be both more honorable and a better witness to keep your word about following the rules of the site as well as respecting what our members consider to be basic courtesy.

Once again.

Interpretation, you interpretation of the rules.......

And it has already been proven that a personal version of a "dictionary" is used by
those who declare themselves to be moderators ;-(

As for me, i believe that the multitudes should be able to hear The Truth, be
it in a forum, blog, video, tract, e-mail, phone call, etc....... for the earth is
being destroyed and that which is Spirit is being perverted ;-(

And systems of religion? They are leading the multitudes on "the broad way to
destruction" ;-(

ASimpleAndSpiritualLife.Blogspot.Com

Then do all that on that site but this site is for debate and discussion.
If we want to read the stuff we can go there and read it.
You have not proven anything. What you believe is nothing more then what you believe. You seem to have an esoteric system of religion and suffer from all the problems other religious systems suffer.

[McCulloch]

As for me, i believe that the multitudes should be able to hear The Truth, be it in a forum, blog, video, tract, e-mail, phone call, etc....... for the earth is being destroyed and that which is Spirit is being perverted ;-(

And systems of religion? They are leading the multitudes on "the broad way to
destruction" ;-(

Have you ever heard of the myth of Cassandra? She was the daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy. Her beauty caused Apollo to grant her the gift of prophecy. However, when she did not return his love, Apollo placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions.

You and she have the same curse. Both of you believe that you have a message from the gods, but neither of you have found a way to convince anyone that what you say is true. I realize that you seem to believe that what you say is true and that it has been revealed to you by some Deity. But there have been so many nutjobs and charlatans who have made the claim that God has spoken to them that we just cannot take your word that what you say is from God. You have to give us a reason to believe you. What have you got?

[Cathar1950]

As for me, i believe that the multitudes should be able to hear The Truth, be it in a forum, blog, video, tract, e-mail, phone call, etc....... for the earth is being destroyed and that which is Spirit is being perverted ;-(

And systems of religion? They are leading the multitudes on "the broad way to
destruction" ;-(

Have you ever heard of the myth of Cassandra? She was the daughter of King Priam and Queen Hecuba of Troy. Her beauty caused Apollo to grant her the gift of prophecy. However, when she did not return his love, Apollo placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions.

You and she have the same curse. Both of you believe that you have a message from the gods, but neither of you have found a way to convince anyone that what you say is true. I realize that you seem to believe that what you say is true and that it has been revealed to you by some Deity. But there have been so many nutjobs and charlatans who have made the claim that God has spoken to them that we just cannot take your word that what you say is from God. You have to give us a reason to believe you. What have you got?

And that Mac is just one of the problems with revelation and personal revelation.
But at least Cassandra was right in her predictions. Predictions are different then superscription.

Our poster has failed to show how the prediction can be verified as there is not even a date. All I see is a rehash and reinterpretation what others claim are predictions that fail to come true or were taken out of context where the prediction means everything to anyone and sometimes the prediction is even devoid of content.
But this is not the place unless you want to be questioned and subject to rightful doubt and justified skepticism.