When I learned that the Bible speaks of a restored Garden of Eden and the restoration of mankind to the perfection and endless life that Adam forfeited, I was thrilled. Who doesn't want to keep living on this beautiful earth, with our loved ones, and being able to do all the things we love to do---endlessly?
If God said to you today, "When do you want to die?" would you say "now!!"? I don't think very many people would say that.
We CAN live forever here on Earth. The Bible tells us that we can.
Matthew 5:5
Psalm 37:9-11,29
Paradise on Earth
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Yes indeed, it is not a dream.onewithhim wrote: The beauty of it all! Jesus is finally ruling in heaven and getting ready to come back in full-blown power to execute the evil people and set up his Kingdom completely over the earth, so that Paradise will be restored to Earth and mankind. God's original purpose for the Earth cannot be foiled. Adam chose to disobey, but that didn't mean that Paradise was lost here on Earth forever. Jesus will see to it that what his Father planned in the beginning will be brought to fruition, for our benefit and exultation. We will exult in peace and joy, the way it was intended to be from the start. This planet will be fully restored to perfection, to be enjoyed by obedient humans. What a hope set before us now!
Paradise will be restored, the old order of things will pass away and all things will be made new.
Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Acts 3:21
For he must remain in heaven until the time for the final restoration of all things, as God promised long ago through his holy prophets.
2 Peter 3:
12 as you look forward to the day of God and eagerly await its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.
13 But in keeping with his promise, we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, where righteousness dwells.
14 So then, dear friends, since you are looking forward to this, make every effort to be found spotless, blameless and at peace with him.
Revelation 2:7
To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.
Revelation 21:
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, a for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.
2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.
3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, Look! Gods dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.
4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death b or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.
5 He who was seated on the throne said, I am making everything new! Then He said, Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #1592Yes, Checkpoint. Now, did you have a point concerning what you posted in the last part of your comment?
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Post #1593Hi onewithhim,
I probbly do have a point, but I cannot tell you what it is yet, because I do not know what you refer to as "the last part of your comment."
Please therefore quote what that is exactly, so I can then give the answer you wanted.
O.K.?
I probbly do have a point, but I cannot tell you what it is yet, because I do not know what you refer to as "the last part of your comment."
Please therefore quote what that is exactly, so I can then give the answer you wanted.
O.K.?
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Post #1594[quote=onewithhim post_id=1013332 time=1590243724 user_id=12805]
Yes, Checkpoint. Now, did you have a point concerning what you posted in the last part of your comment?
Everything you wrote from "Acts 3:21 to Revelation 21." I didn't understand your point.
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Yes, Checkpoint. Now, did you have a point concerning what you posted in the last part of your comment?
Everything you wrote from "Acts 3:21 to Revelation 21." I didn't understand your point.
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Post #1595onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 11:29 pmO.K., thanks.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sat May 23, 2020 10:22 am Yes, Checkpoint. Now, did you have a point concerning what you posted in the last part of your comment?
Everything you wrote from "Acts 3:21 to Revelation 21." I didn't understand your point.
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My point was, what do those scriptures have in common, what are they in agreement on?
What the return of Jesus will usher in.
And what is not even hinted at anywhere...which is??
So, with those clues, do you still not get my point at all?
No, I am not playing games, onewithhim, or seeking to annoy you.
I just wish for you to catch a glimpse of my point by your own review and discovery. It was quite an experience for me, many years ago.
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Post #1596I'm sorry, I don't see what you are getting at, and I would appreciate it if you would state plainly what points you want to bring out.
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Post #1597Sure.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 pm I'm sorry, I don't see what you are getting at, and I would appreciate it if you would state plainly what points you want to bring out.
But I'll put this here first:
What those scriptures have in common, what they agree on, is that the return of Jesus Christ will usher in the new order of things, which is the new heaven and earth.
My point was, what do those scriptures have in common, what are they in agreement on?
What the return of Jesus will usher in.
And what is not even hinted at anywhere...which is??
So, with those clues, do you still not get my point at all?
What is not even hinted at anywhere in those verses is...the millennium, the thousand years.
Do you now see what I am getting at, onewithhim?
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Re: Paradise on Earth
Post #1598the passages you quote describe satan more than anyone else.
to him who overcomes, huh?
That is right in tune with NO ONE GETS TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.
AND JUST WHAT DOES MAN HAVE TO OVERCOME? WHO DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH? WHO STANDS IN OUR WAY? TEMPTATIONS FROM SATAN. WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH HIM TO GET TO GOD.
Jesus...the ones who said they actually knew him were those posessed. your book tells you who jesus has power over. power over the UNCLEAN SPIRITS. NOT THE CLEAN.
WE KNOW SATAN BY HIS WORK. HE WILL TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM GOD. HE EVEN TOOK GODS GLORY. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW JESUS. HE SAID THE WORDS HE SPEAKS ARE NOT HIS NOR DID HE COME TO DO HIS WILL. SO WHAT IS HIS WILL? YOU WORSHIP AN UNKNOWN ENTITY. YOULL MEET THE ONE YOU WORSHIP. THEN YOULL SEE WHO YOUR LORD IS. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT JESUS SAYS. HE TOLD YOU THAT THE SHEEP WONT FOLLOW A STRANGE VOICE. BUT THEYLL FOLLOW THEIR MASTERS VOICE. HE SAID THEN THE SHEEP ARE LET OUT THEN THE GATE IS SHUT. YOU FOLLOW JESUS BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE FOLLOWING GOD. JESUS TELLS YOU REPEADETLY..BE CAREFUL HOW YE HEAR
to him who overcomes, huh?
That is right in tune with NO ONE GETS TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME.
AND JUST WHAT DOES MAN HAVE TO OVERCOME? WHO DO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH? WHO STANDS IN OUR WAY? TEMPTATIONS FROM SATAN. WE ALL MUST GO THROUGH HIM TO GET TO GOD.
Jesus...the ones who said they actually knew him were those posessed. your book tells you who jesus has power over. power over the UNCLEAN SPIRITS. NOT THE CLEAN.
WE KNOW SATAN BY HIS WORK. HE WILL TURN PEOPLE AWAY FROM GOD. HE EVEN TOOK GODS GLORY. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW JESUS. HE SAID THE WORDS HE SPEAKS ARE NOT HIS NOR DID HE COME TO DO HIS WILL. SO WHAT IS HIS WILL? YOU WORSHIP AN UNKNOWN ENTITY. YOULL MEET THE ONE YOU WORSHIP. THEN YOULL SEE WHO YOUR LORD IS. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT JESUS SAYS. HE TOLD YOU THAT THE SHEEP WONT FOLLOW A STRANGE VOICE. BUT THEYLL FOLLOW THEIR MASTERS VOICE. HE SAID THEN THE SHEEP ARE LET OUT THEN THE GATE IS SHUT. YOU FOLLOW JESUS BECAUSE YOU THINK YOU ARE FOLLOWING GOD. JESUS TELLS YOU REPEADETLY..BE CAREFUL HOW YE HEAR
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Post #1599The Millennium may not have been mentioned, but it sure is mentioned in Revelation the 5th chapter and the 20th chapter. So I really don't get what you are saying. Can you be clear? Thanks.Checkpoint wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pmSure.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 pm I'm sorry, I don't see what you are getting at, and I would appreciate it if you would state plainly what points you want to bring out.
But I'll put this here first:What those scriptures have in common, what they agree on, is that the return of Jesus Christ will usher in the new order of things, which is the new heaven and earth.
My point was, what do those scriptures have in common, what are they in agreement on?
What the return of Jesus will usher in.
And what is not even hinted at anywhere...which is??
So, with those clues, do you still not get my point at all?
What is not even hinted at anywhere in those verses is...the millennium, the thousand years.
Do you now see what I am getting at, onewithhim?
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Post #1600It is only found in Revelation 20, part of a book of visions that you recognize are generally not intended to be literal, but symbolic.onewithhim wrote: ↑Tue May 26, 2020 10:21 pmThe Millennium may not have been mentioned, but it sure is mentioned in Revelation the 5th chapter and the 20th chapter. So I really don't get what you are saying. Can you be clear? Thanks.Checkpoint wrote: ↑Mon May 25, 2020 5:42 pmSure.onewithhim wrote: ↑Sun May 24, 2020 10:58 pm I'm sorry, I don't see what you are getting at, and I would appreciate it if you would state plainly what points you want to bring out.
But I'll put this here first:What those scriptures have in common, what they agree on, is that the return of Jesus Christ will usher in the new order of things, which is the new heaven and earth.
My point was, what do those scriptures have in common, what are they in agreement on?
What the return of Jesus will usher in.
And what is not even hinted at anywhere...which is??
So, with those clues, do you still not get my point at all?
What is not even hinted at anywhere in those verses is...the millennium, the thousand years.
Do you now see what I am getting at, onewithhim?
The scriptures I quoted all say the same thing, that what we wait for is a new heaven and a new earth to appear when Jesus returns.
Of course, I know you will not accept this and what stems from it.
I am on this subforum to present what God says, and it is then up to any reader as to the effect, if any, it has on them.
I hope that now my point is quite clear to you.
All the best, onewithhim.

