What Are Your Christian Non-Negotiables?

[ElCodeMonkey]

To be "saved", what are the absolute non-negotiables? What must you absolutely do, believe, trust, say, etc? Jesus died for sins, Jesus is God, Belief in Trinity, Baptism, etc, etc. What cannot be ignored for salvation?

[onewithhim]

To be "saved", what are the absolute non-negotiables? What must you absolutely do, believe, trust, say, etc? Jesus died for sins, Jesus is God, Belief in Trinity, Baptism, etc, etc. What cannot be ignored for salvation?

For starters, to insist that God is a Trinity and that Jesus is God are NOT true doctrines. Hopefully people can be reasoned with, and will ultimately discard those erroneous beliefs.

Having said that, ALL people must learn what the truth is and be able to make an informed decision about whether or not they want to be friends with the God of the Bible and have Him as their Sovereign. Many people have lived and died not knowing the truth. Therefore, the Bible says that "there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous." (Acts 24:15) This happens during Christ's Millennial Reign, or, his Thousand-Year Reign. All who haven't had the chance to learn will be taught. I would think, too, that there will be a lot of people who will need to be taught that go through the Great Tribulation and come out of it into what will soon be paradise on Earth.

So it can be said that no one is actually finally saved until the end of Christ's Thousand-Year Reign, when Satan is let loose for the last time and everyone gets the chance to tell God whose side they are on....Satan's or Jehovah's. THEN the ones who accept the truth will be able to "come alive" forever. (See Revelation 20:6-8.)

What must everyone believe to live forever?

1) That God Almighty is Jehovah (Psalm 83:18, KJV)
2) That Jesus is His Son (and not God), and that he was sent by God as the means by which mankind could be reconciled to Him. Jesus gave his life as a ransom in exchange for many (Matt.20:28).
3) People must conform their lives to the way that God teaches them they must live, for their own benefit and the benefit of others. After all, the demons believe....but they will not be saved. (James 2:19,20)

Those are the non-negotiables.

[onewithhim]

The question seems to reflect a "once saved always saved" sort of paradigm. I don't hold to any iron-clad rules outside of one must have a spirit of constant repentance while trusting in Gods mercy. This leads to union with Christ and salvation. I suppose its a faith and works sort of doing things to its probably abhorrent to sola fide/scriptura advocates.

I think you are right. It has to be faith + works, as Jesus' brother James pointed out in his 2nd chapter. Sola scriptura advocates would certainly agree with that. They wouldn't want to rip James out of the Bible, would they?

[onewithhim]

No. There is no real Biblical support. Whatever support you think you have is more than likely someone's really bad interpretation. There is no commandment to burn people alive to clean their soul. Seeing how their is no support for an eternal soul in the first place in the Bible. (Ecc 9:5) So if it's reason for doing it is not supported how can there be support? Wrong interpretation of the Bible.

I didn't say anything about there being support for burning people or eternal souls. I said there's support of Elijah John's and my position that the one important thing is to love others.

Oh sorry. I didn't read the post correctly. I thought we were talking about Bible support for burning people.

I thought that's what he meant too.

[ElCodeMonkey]

[Replying to post 21 by onewithhim]

So nothing about the Bible's veracity is a requirement to you? I like your #3 asduming conformance is in love and being more like a synoptic Jesus. Not sure why blood sacrifice makes your list though .

[ttruscott]

To be "saved", what are the absolute non-negotiables? What must you absolutely do, believe, trust, say, etc? Jesus died for sins, Jesus is God, Belief in Trinity, Baptism, etc, etc. What cannot be ignored for salvation?

Imo
nothing about the fulfillment of our earthly salvation is in our hands nor does anything we can do mean more than zilch. All is a gift from GOD in the fulfillment of HIS promise (HIS promise; HIS work!) to us to save us from our sins and to make us ready to be HIS Bride.

All we had to do to ensure our presence in heaven was to put our faith by our free will in YHWH as our creator GOD and as our saviour from sin, accepting HIS proposal marriage. Then, as humans, we are never condemned but the others, the reprobate, are condemned already.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 21 by onewithhim]

So nothing about the Bible's veracity is a requirement to you? I like your #3 asduming conformance is in love and being more like a synoptic Jesus. Not sure why blood sacrifice makes your list though .

To most people here the Bible's veracity is a given. The synoptic Jesus said himself that he "gave his soul as a ransom in exchange for many." (Matthew 20:28)

[onewithhim]

To be "saved", what are the absolute non-negotiables? What must you absolutely do, believe, trust, say, etc? Jesus died for sins, Jesus is God, Belief in Trinity, Baptism, etc, etc. What cannot be ignored for salvation?

Imo
nothing about the fulfillment of our earthly salvation is in our hands nor does anything we can do mean more than zilch. All is a gift from GOD in the fulfillment of HIS promise (HIS promise; HIS work!) to us to save us from our sins and to make us ready to be HIS Bride.

All we had to do to ensure our presence in heaven was to put our faith by our free will in YHWH as our creator GOD and as our saviour from sin, accepting HIS proposal marriage. Then, as humans, we are never condemned but the others, the reprobate, are condemned already.

Jesus said very clearly that there is something more than belief is necessary for salvation: "Not everyone who says to me. 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven will enter." (Matthew 7:21, NASB)

We must do the Father's will.

If ALL Christians are to be Christ's Bride, who is it that they will reign over?

[tam]

If ALL Christians are to be Christ's Bride, who is it that they will reign over?

The subjects of the Kingdom. Those who are not Christian but who are still called righteous on the basis of what they have done to even the least of His brothers (thereby unknowingly having done to Christ). From the sheep and the goats parable (Matthew 25), they are the sheep who had done good to even a least one of the King's brothers (For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.')... but they did so NOT KNOWING that they were doing these things for the King. We can know this, because standing there before the King, they have to ask: Lord, WHEN did we see you hungry and give you something to eat, etc...?

And the King responds,

"Whatever you did for even a least one of these brothers of mine, you did for me."

Paul also spoke of the people of the nations who would be declared righteous because they did - BY NATURE - the requirements of the law (of love - love which covers over a multitude of sins; and against which there is NO law), proving that the law is written upon their hearts.



Some think only Christians enter the Kingdom, but more than just Christians enter the Kingdom. Christians (anointed ones) will rule as kings and priests with Christ for a thousand years, yes. But others enter as subjects of that Kingdom, and they too receive eternal life.


And of course God may have mercy upon whomever He chooses.

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As to the OP:

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and [Jesus] Christ, whom you have sent.


If you know me, you know my Father also.


No one comes to the Father except through me.


I am the Way, the Truth, and the LIFE.

For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

If anyone loves me, they will obey my commands. My father will love them, and we will come and make our home within them.


So my "Christian non-negotiable" is Christ. My Lord and King. The One God sent and told us to listen TO:


This is my Son, my chosen one. Listen to Him.




Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy

[onewithhim]

So there will be SEVERAL BILLION people in heaven ruling?

[tam]

So there will be SEVERAL BILLION people in heaven ruling?

Ruling as kings and priests with Christ in His Kingdom?

Continuing the verse that you used in the post above mine:

Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


"For many are called, but few are chosen."


But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.



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Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian IS a Christian. If one believes Christ - as a Christian does - then many who think that they do belong to Him (saying Lord, Lord, claiming to have done things in his name) are not known by Him.




Peace to you,
your servant and a slave of Christ,
tammy