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.Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
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I am sorry, Wootah, but I cannot make sense of this. First you were talking about dividing God up into parts (that saying God is One is meant to prevent dividing God up into parts), and now you are talking about butchering a book. You have also not provided any examples of what you claim I am doing. How am I to respond?Wootah wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:38 pm [Replying to tam in post #36]
It's you Tam. You take a book about God and butcher it. It's you cutting this verse and that verse and saying this is not God that is God. Not me.
Of course Paul had a clue. He knew that God's name is YHWH (Jehovah), because he knew the Hebrew Scriptures very well, having studied under Gamaliel. It's in those Scriptures 7,000 times. That is the name above all names, and Paul wrote that Jehovah GAVE Jesus the name above all names because Jesus was obedient to the point of death. (Philippians 2:8-11) Of course no name will be above the name of the Most High, YHWH (Psalm 83:18, KJV), but we can know that Jesus' name is above everybody else's name. You'll notice that in verse 11 all the glory goes to the Father, YHWH, so Jesus' name doesn't mean that he is higher than the Father.
onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:36 amThere is ample proof provided in the Scriptures to show that Jesus and Jehovah (YHWH) are not the same person. Anyone following this thread could see that, if they looked at it with the eyes of understanding. The "name above all names" was given to Jesus by his Father, Jehovah. Naturally any name would not surpass the Almighty God's own name. YHWH gives to whom He wishes, and He could take it back if He wished. The passages in the OT are not applied to Jesus in the NT. Even in the NT the Father, YHWH, is mentioned many times, really any time "God" is referred to. Hebrews 1:6, for example, speaks about God having a Son, and the Son is a reflection of God's glory and His exact representation. Obviously there are two distinct persons referred to. The rest of the references are also referring to YHWH as Jesus' God. (See Heb.1:8,9) "That is why God, your God, anointed you with the oil of exultation..." Verse 8 is a bad interpretation of Psalm 45. It should read: "God is your throne forever and ever..." Meaning that God, YHWH, is the source of the Son's power and authority.MissKate13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 7:06 pmThe name above all names is “The Lord Jesus Christ.”Wootah wrote: ↑Tue Sep 26, 2023 8:49 am.Philippians 2:9 Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father
What is the name above all names?
The Lord Jesus Christ is YHWH.
Joel 2:32
“And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved;”
Romans 10:13
13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
Paul is referring to Jesus as "Lord" in Rom 10:13. This is beyond doubt; and the fact that he quotes an OT text referring to YHWH and applies it to Jesus shows clearly what he thinks of the status of Jesus.
This is not the first time where OT passages that refer to YHWH in the OT are applied to Jesus in the NT:
Heb 1:6 quotes Deut 32:43
Heb 1:8, 9 quotes Ps 45:6, 7
Heb 1:10-12 quotes Ps 102:25-27 (LXX)
Phil 2:10, 11 quotes Isa 45:23
Matt 3:3 (cf V11) quotes Isa 40:3
In the OT, YHWH is referred to as Savior, first and last, Lord of Lords. These same names are applied to Jesus in the NT.
"The more probable translation is 'God is your throne...' This translation is found in the NWT and the footnotes of the NRSV and TEV. Three giants of modern New Testament scholarship, Westcott, Moffatt, and Goodspeed, came to the same conclusion independently. The fact is, if this verse were quoted in the NT in reference to anyone else, the translators would have not hesitated to translate it as 'God is your throne...' It seems likely that it is only because most translations were made by people who already believe that Jesus is God that the less probable way of translating this verse has been preferred." (See Truth in Translation, by Jason BeDuhn, pages 97-101)
God is not a name it's a TITLE. Satan the Devil, Molech and many others share this same title (see 2 Corinthians CHAPTER 4 Verese 4). To say God's name is GOD is like saying your father's name is father. You may call him Father but does your father not have a personal name that identifies him from all the other fathers on the planet?
True or false:JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 9:26 amGod is not a name it's a TITLE. Satan the Devil, Molech and many others share this same title (see 2 Corinthians CHAPTER 4 Verese 4). To say God's name is GOD is like saying your father's name is father. You may call him Father but does your father not have a personal name that identifies him from all the other fathers on the planet?
That is not a name, RootofDavid. Like your name isn't "man." God's name is clear in the Scriptures. At Psalm 83:18 in the King James Version it tells us that JEHOVAH is the name of the Most High. Also, there is no one higher than he is. Not even the Son.
I did not say it was a name.onewithhim wrote: ↑Fri Dec 15, 2023 10:11 amThat is not a name, RootofDavid. Like your name isn't "man." God's name is clear in the Scriptures. At Psalm 83:18 in the King James Version it tells us that JEHOVAH is the name of the Most High. Also, there is no one higher than he is. Not even the Son.
