Jesus is God - Every knee shall bow

[Wootah]

Isaiah 45
22 “Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other.
23 By myself I have sworn,
my mouth has uttered in all integrity
a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear.
24 They will say of me, ‘In the Lord alone
are deliverance and strength.’”
All who have raged against him
will come to him and be put to shame.
25 But all the descendants of Israel
will find deliverance in the Lord
and will make their boast in him.


Philippians 2:10-11
English Standard Version
10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Is every knee meant to bow to God or to Jesus or is this evidence Jesus is God?

[onewithhim]

Isaiah 45
22 “Turn to me and be saved,
all you ends of the earth;
for I am God, and there is no other.
23 By myself I have sworn,
my mouth has uttered in all integrity
a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow;
by me every tongue will swear.
24 They will say of me, ‘In the Lord alone
are deliverance and strength.’”
All who have raged against him
will come to him and be put to shame.
25 But all the descendants of Israel
will find deliverance in the Lord
and will make their boast in him.


Philippians 2:10-11
English Standard Version
10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Is every knee meant to bow to God or to Jesus or is this evidence Jesus is God?

Every knee is to bow to Jesus, "to the glory of God the Father." Jesus is the means by which the Father administers salvation. This does not show that Jesus is God. Quite the contrary.

[APAK]

[Replying to Wootah in post #33]

Well all who do not believe the Son of God is the same as God himself are not all JWs either, as I'm not one.

And there are areas I do agree with them on and others areas not.

Just saying..

Well what belief system do you belong to?

Actually I do not like labelling much, to label myself or anyone else for that matter. I'd rather reveal my stream of beliefs in my words.

If you what to know what part of the irregular and extensive doctrinal room or corners I frequent the most, it is between the corners of a Biblical Unitarian, a Christadelphian, a Monotheistic non-orthodox or reformed Jew, and a reformed JW. It's a mix...and then there's my Eschatological views...

[Wootah]

Now the context of Phil 2:10 is easy to gauge. Just read the verse before it to conclude who is Jesus.

(Php 2:9) Wherefore God highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name-
(Php 2:10) that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the earth,

Now who is deity again, God or his Son, Jesus?!

OK but isnt the name above all names only for God?

[APAK]

Now the context of Phil 2:10 is easy to gauge. Just read the verse before it to conclude who is Jesus.

(Php 2:9) Wherefore God highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name-
(Php 2:10) that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the earth,

Now who is deity again, God or his Son, Jesus?!

OK but isnt the name above all names only for God?

Not here, in this context. The Father who is God, plainly stated he made his Son possess the name above all, of all creation, EXCEPT his own name or position of course, who is the only God.

[Wootah]

Now the context of Phil 2:10 is easy to gauge. Just read the verse before it to conclude who is Jesus.

(Php 2:9) Wherefore God highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name-
(Php 2:10) that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the earth,

Now who is deity again, God or his Son, Jesus?!

OK but isnt the name above all names only for God?

Not here, in this context. The Father who is God, plainly stated he made his Son possess the name above all, of all creation, EXCEPT his own name or position of course, who is the only God.

Except? So God didn't give Jesus the name above all names?

[APAK]

Now the context of Phil 2:10 is easy to gauge. Just read the verse before it to conclude who is Jesus.

(Php 2:9) Wherefore God highly exalted him, and gave to him the name which is above every name-
(Php 2:10) that in the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the earth,

Now who is deity again, God or his Son, Jesus?!

OK but isnt the name above all names only for God?

Not here, in this context. The Father who is God, plainly stated he made his Son possess the name above all, of all creation, EXCEPT his own name or position of course, who is the only God.

Except? So God didn't give Jesus the name above all names?

The only way I can make sense out of your reply, is that you must believe in a Trinity or a Binary God, and neither of them are present in scripture, only in the imaginative minds of men.

The Father is the only God, not Jesus...
(Mar 12:28) And one of the scribes came and heard them arguing; and knowing that he had answered them well, he asked him: What commandment is the first of all?
(Mar 12:29) Jesus answered: The first is, Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
(Mar 12:30) And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.

Now do think for one moment that Jesus was including himself in his statements? No right-minded person would ever think such a thing.

[Wootah]

[Replying to APAK in post #46]

Yes. I am a Christian.

Did Jesus get the name above all names or not?

Yes or no?

[APAK]

[Replying to Wootah in post #47]

Of course he did, it says so in scripture, and for good reason, right?

What is bothering you to ask me the same thing once again. Maybe I still need to clarify something else for you?

Let me know then...

[Wootah]

[Replying to Wootah in post #47]

Of course he did, it says so in scripture, and for good reason, right?

What is bothering you to ask me the same thing once again. Maybe I still need to clarify something else for you?

Let me know then...

1) The name above all names belongs to God
2) Jesus was given the name above all names.

Therefore Jesus is God.

[APAK]

[Replying to Wootah in post #47]

Of course he did, it says so in scripture, and for good reason, right?

What is bothering you to ask me the same thing once again. Maybe I still need to clarify something else for you?

Let me know then...

1) The name above all names belongs to God
2) Jesus was given the name above all names.

Therefore Jesus is God.

No, not at all. You cannot blindly substitute in the name of Jesus as the one God because he is even superior to the angels, and not God his Father however..

WHO gave Jesus the name above all names, in creation? GOD did! Simple logic tells you that it God did this for his Son then his Son is NOT God.

It seems you want Jesus to be God as well, and that is not what the word of God says.

So I'm left with you wanting and attempting to find scripture where Jesus is God for some reason. And you will not find it.

God gave Jesus the name above all names because of His complete authority, lordship, and power over heaven and earth, which commands respect and honor that his Father requires. And in so doing we worship God.
This exaltation followed Jesus' act of humility and obedience, as He humbled Himself to the point of death on a cross.

I hope this helps..

I'll be moving on then...