JWs consider God's Kingdom to be a Government

[JehovahsWitness]

Jehovah's Witnesses believe God's Kingdom for which many Christians have prayed throughout the ages to be a (heavenly) government (three words).

What, in three or four words if possible, do you believe it to be?

(Many Christians I have met have said its "A feeling" (in one's heart).

[Justin108]

[Replying to post 38 by McCulloch]

Yes, when I say soon I mean the same thing as if I were to say "at hand". Immenent close.

1. SOON
in or after a short time.

synonyms: in a short time, shortly, presently, in the near future, before long, in a little while, in a minute, in a moment, in an instant, in a twinkling, in the twinkling of an eye, before you know it, any minute (now), any day (now), any time (now), by and by;

I have posted about when we will experience the benefits of kingdom rule here; I'll post the link in case you missed it
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 193#852193



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RESPONSE: I thought Jehovah Witnesses claim that Jesus returned in 1914. I would not claim that 1914 to 2017 is a "short" time, do you?

Just when will experience this " we will experience the benefits of kingdom rule " occur or is that just wishful thinking on the part of the JW's?

Yes, biblically 1914 to 2017 is very short indeed, actually it is described in the bible as "a short period of time".

Do Jehovah's Witnesses have any support for their claim that Jesus returned in 1914?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 51 by Justin108]

Why are you asking me? If you look carefully I didn't say that, those words were from polonius.

[Justin108]

[Replying to post 51 by Justin108]

Why are you asking me? If you look carefully I didn't say that, those words were from polonius.

I'm asking you because you're a Jehovah's Witness. Do you personally believe that Jesus returned in 1914? If so, do you have any support for your belief?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 51 by Justin108]

Why are you asking me? If you look carefully I didn't say that, those words were from polonius.

I'm asking you because you're a Jehovah's Witness. Do you personally believe that Jesus returned in 1914? If so, do you have any support for your belief?

I do believe there is a subforum for people that would like to know about the personal beliefs of a particular individual, here's the LINK (I'll post it in case you were not aware and feel inclined to use it)

Link
viewforum.php?f=26


Anyway, I'm going to stick to the OP, I'll repost the Question for clarity

Jehovah's Witnesses believe God's Kingdom for which many Christians have prayed throughout the ages to be a (heavenly) government (three words).

What, in three or four words if possible, do you believe it to be?

[JehovahsWitness]

firstly we should start where God does, with Genesis.

Excellent! Which verse? What is your explanation of the verse(s) you are refering to? I think that Genesis 3:15 might be relevant because it was part of the edenic judgement, what do you think?

[Checkpoint]

firstly we should start where God does, with Genesis.

Excellent! Which verse? What is your explanation of the verse(s) you are refering to? I think that Genesis 3:15 might be relevant because it was part of the edenic judgement, what do you think?

I have this verse in mind,

Genesis 1:26

Then God said, "Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground".[NLV]

We were made to reign, not over others, but with others, under God, over His creation.

God said this before the Edenic sin and its judgment.

It is an aspect of "the restoration of all things", Acts 3:21.

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 56 by Checkpoint]

Good scriptures too, but how do they shed more light on details about the "system of rulership" that is the Kingdom?

[Checkpoint]

[Replying to post 56 by Checkpoint]

Good scriptures too, but how do they shed more light on details about the "system of rulership" that is the Kingdom?

That is your concern, it is not mine.

I have already said the kingdom is not a "system of rulership", as if that is all it is.

The JW take on this is on very shaky ground.

[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 51 by Justin108]

Why are you asking me? If you look carefully I didn't say that, those words were from polonius.

I'm asking you because you're a Jehovah's Witness. Do you personally believe that Jesus returned in 1914? If so, do you have any support for your belief?

I am a JW and I'll say that we do not teach that Jesus "returned" in 1914.

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[onewithhim]

[Replying to post 56 by Checkpoint]

Good scriptures too, but how do they shed more light on details about the "system of rulership" that is the Kingdom?

That is your concern, it is not mine.

I have already said the kingdom is not a "system of rulership", as if that is all it is.

The JW take on this is on very shaky ground.

How so? Don't the scriptures indicate that Jesus will actually rule? Don't we call this sort of thing "government"? How do you explain the following Scriptures if God's Kingdom "is not a system of rulership"?

1.) Isaiah 9:6a,7
2.) Daniel 2:44
3.) Daniel 7:14
4.) Luke 1:32,33
5.) Revelation 5:10
6.) Revelation 20:4,6

I await your explanations.

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