Could I ask a favor?

onewithhim · Post by **onewithhim** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 7:28 pm

Hi. I want to ask that only people who truly want to learn more about what the Bible says about living forever in Paradise on Earth to post on this thread. Please. I don't want to argue. I would very much appreciate it if people who think everybody is either going to heaven or to Hell would not start a battle of words here. I hope to hear from people who think that PSALM 37:9-11, and also verse 29, sounds pretty good. Thank you. OWH

RightReason · Post by **RightReason** » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:15 pm

[Replying to post 50 by JehovahsWitness]

My question is: Do you believe Adam and Eve where literal human beings (with digestive systems)?

Asked and answered, but here is exactly what I said 3 posts earlier that you somehow claim isnt clear.

Adam & Eve represent us " Gods human creatures. We, just like Jesus, are literal human beings

Now, please answer at least some of my questions. Otherwise, this is an unbalanced relationship.

will women menstruate on paradise earth and only ovulate once a month. How long is a month in eternity? Will a baby take 9 months to develop? Enquiring minds want to know.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 11:59 am

RightReason wrote:

Adam & Eve represent us " Gods human creatures. We, just like Jesus, are literal human beings

Do you believe Adam and Eve had digestive systems?

RightReason · Post by **RightReason** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:14 pm

[Replying to JehovahsWitness]

Asked and answered. Now your turn.

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:21 pm

[Replying to post 53 by RightReason]

Well thank you for answering my questions and for your contribution, it has been most enlightening, I wish you a very good evening.

Please enjoy the rest of the thread,

Respect,

JW

William · Post by **William** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 12:28 pm

[Replying to post 54 by JehovahsWitness]

Are you going to eventually make the effort to answer the questions I put to you JW? It has been a couple of weeks now that I have been waiting for your reply.

liamconnor · Post by **liamconnor** » Sun Sep 02, 2018 9:15 pm

[Replying to post 1 by onewithhim]

Debating forums typically attract people who have already decided; appealing to "deep down emotions" don't work here. One is best establishing real relationships if that is what one is seeking. I personally have found face to face talks very different from online discussions. Here, we are "debating"--that is, engaging "arguments". And I highly doubt anyone accepts Christianity or Atheism or Agnosticism on purely rational grounds: we are human, and there is always a sentimental element.

tam · Post by **tam** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:00 pm

Peace to you,

onewithhim wrote:
tam wrote: Peace to you,

onewithhim wrote:
tam wrote: [Replying to post 6 by onewithhim]

Peace to you OWH,

Could you also explain to me where you get the term Paradise earth?

I am not disagreeing; just trying to understand what you mean specifically.

Thank you!
The Bible says that Adam and Eve were in charge of the Garden of Eden, and they were to fill the earth with their progeny as well as cultivating it and taking care of it. (Genesis 1:28) That was God's original purpose for the earth. I believe that there is no indication in the Bible that He changed His mind about that. It has always been His idea and His desire to have the earth become a paradise with people on it that love Him and will obey His instructions.

God never said to Adam or any other man that He had changed His mind and all people would now go to heaven. No, instead we see hundreds if not thousands of verses that speak of a physical world where things will be set right again, as it was in the beginning, and as God intended it to be. What else would we call this but "Paradise"? Jesus spoke to the thief beside him before he died and told him that he would be in Paradise with Jesus. I believe that he was speaking about this earth, onto which the man would be resurrected, under Jesus' reign over the earth from heaven.

Paradise conditions:

Isaiah 11:6-9
Isaiah 33:24
Isaiah 35:1,6
Isaiah 65:21-25
Job 33:25
Micah 4:4

I would agree that things will be as they were at the start with Adam and Eve (before they ate the tree of knowing good/life and bad/death). I was just wondering where the term came from.

Would you agree that Christ is referring to this Paradise at Revelation 2:7?

"Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God."

Peace again to you!
No. Taking everything in the Scriptures into consideration, Jesus was speaking to members of the 144,000 who will reign with him in heaven. The reference must be to the heavenly garden-like realm inherited by these people who will have conquered.

Did you notice that the Tree of Life (same tree from the Garden of Eden) is in this Paradise of God?

Peace again to you!

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:02 pm

William wrote: Paradise on earth is not an appealing notion to me.

As far as I can tell from what others who believe in this idea and want to experience it, the idea is that one gets resurrected but the body is significantly different from the one previously experienced...I would consider it more a curse than a blessing....

Emphasis MINE

So do you hate your body as it Is? I ask because a perfect body will not be significantly different from the one you have now except if you have one leg or you have a debilitating disease. Other than that in paradise we will be the same as we are now minus painful diseases and sickness.

Do you really find good health repulsive? And your body a curse?

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postroad · Post by **postroad** » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:47 pm

[Replying to post 58 by JehovahsWitness]

And yet they will still die eventually.

Isaiah 65:19-25 New International Version (NIV)

19 I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
20 Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years;
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach[a] a hundred
will be considered accursed.
21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
23 They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune;
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpents food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
says the Lord.
Foot

JehovahsWitness · Post by **JehovahsWitness** » Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:04 am

[Replying to post 59 by postroad]

What has that got to do with my post? If you have a point related to what I just wrote perhaps you might feel inclined to make it?

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