Jehovah's Witnesses believe God to be in Heaven, but that he can see everywhere and that his power can reach any part of the universe.
My question is: Where do you believe god is?
- Does he live Heaven?
- Does he literally live Inside of you (in your heart or another organ)?
- Is he literally everywhere?
Where is God
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Where is God
Post #1INDEX: More bible based ANSWERS
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 81#p826681
"For if we live, we live to Jehovah, and if we die, we die to Jehovah. So both if we live and if we die, we belong to Jehovah" - Romans 14:8
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Re: Where is God
Post #81[Replying to post 80 by Willum]
1. What IS proof? How much evidence is needed before we can call something true if true is 100% sure?
2. Can you prove a negative?
Who says you can't feel or see evidence of God? If you close your eyes or look at night you can not see the sun either, nor can you if you get too far away from our solar system, but does that mean that the sun then cease to exist? No of cause not.
The Bible claim you can feel God through the Holy Spirit, and as far as physical evidence there is actually a lot of evidence of order or purpose all around us which suggest that there indeed may be a God.
Who says God doesn't talk? Moses claimed God talked to him, Paul and Joseph Smith made that claim too and so has many others. How do we know that they didn't?
But how do you come from that to assuming that life can exist by itself without anyone "needing it"?
You can not even prove what chemical mixtures life consist of.
I mean what elements from the periodic table does life consist of? Where do you find it?
So the comparision and conclusion makes no sense.
Its like you saying 1+1=2 is evidence that mr. Jones isn't married...there is no connection between your proposition and conclusion.
It was the same problem we ran into earlier in debate.
So no I strongly disagree that this conclusion is reasonable given your proposition.
Excellent question Willum! You can answer this two ways.So what would be proof?
Here's an example, God is all powerful, so he must have infinite power. He must be more powerful than the Sun.
The Sun is very profound, therefore God must be more profound. But since you can't see or detect it, he doesn't exist.
He doesn't talk so he doesn't exist.
and so on.
1. What IS proof? How much evidence is needed before we can call something true if true is 100% sure?
2. Can you prove a negative?
Who says you can't feel or see evidence of God? If you close your eyes or look at night you can not see the sun either, nor can you if you get too far away from our solar system, but does that mean that the sun then cease to exist? No of cause not.
The Bible claim you can feel God through the Holy Spirit, and as far as physical evidence there is actually a lot of evidence of order or purpose all around us which suggest that there indeed may be a God.
Who says God doesn't talk? Moses claimed God talked to him, Paul and Joseph Smith made that claim too and so has many others. How do we know that they didn't?
Your first sentence with the chemical mixtures and replication is completely true.This may help.
All a chemical mixture has to do is replicate.
Once it does that, the things that replicate better overcome those that don't.
So, without even needing life, life is a reasonable assumption.
But how do you come from that to assuming that life can exist by itself without anyone "needing it"?
You can not even prove what chemical mixtures life consist of.
I mean what elements from the periodic table does life consist of? Where do you find it?
So the comparision and conclusion makes no sense.
Its like you saying 1+1=2 is evidence that mr. Jones isn't married...there is no connection between your proposition and conclusion.
It was the same problem we ran into earlier in debate.
So no I strongly disagree that this conclusion is reasonable given your proposition.
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Re: Where is God
Post #82[Replying to post 81 by Hector Barbosa]
See, I look around me and see 100% proof of no need for God.
I look at the works of Moses; murderer, visions no one else saw, acts of weird cruelty, and I see a paranoid schizophrenic.
The word of delusional people is insufficient for me, even if they can scrap together a following.
How can life come from non-life? The explanation is in Evolution, byexample:
Inorganic - lifeless films occur in nature.
They are replicating in the most trivial way, and never go further, because they have already been out-competed.
However, say one of these films began up on a lifeless Earth.
Then a section of it has a different chemical formula then the rest, making it endure longer.
It regrows and causes another variation that endures even when dispersed. Suddenly the dispersed film, goes everywhere.
Now competition begins among those films, and diversification happens. Films on the equator adapt to warmth, those near the poles, for cold.
From there these films get better an better, until they start be alive.
And the rest is a reality without a need for God.
See, I look around me and see 100% proof of no need for God.
I look at the works of Moses; murderer, visions no one else saw, acts of weird cruelty, and I see a paranoid schizophrenic.
The word of delusional people is insufficient for me, even if they can scrap together a following.
How can life come from non-life? The explanation is in Evolution, byexample:
Inorganic - lifeless films occur in nature.
They are replicating in the most trivial way, and never go further, because they have already been out-competed.
However, say one of these films began up on a lifeless Earth.
Then a section of it has a different chemical formula then the rest, making it endure longer.
It regrows and causes another variation that endures even when dispersed. Suddenly the dispersed film, goes everywhere.
Now competition begins among those films, and diversification happens. Films on the equator adapt to warmth, those near the poles, for cold.
From there these films get better an better, until they start be alive.
And the rest is a reality without a need for God.
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