JW's: Jesus is omnipotent & omniscient (Revelation 5:6)

[Faber]

Revelation 5:6
And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, sent out into all the earth. (NASB)

The Jehovah's Witnesses affirm both the omnipotence and omniscience of the Lord Jesus.
Concerning Revelation 5:6 on page 100 of "The Finished Mystery" it reads:
Having seven horns.- Perfect power.
Having seven eyes.- Perfect wisdom.

How can the Jehovah's Witnesses not believe the Lord Jesus is God despite the fact that He has "perfect power" (omnipotence) and "perfect wisdom" (omniscience)?

[JehovahsWitness]

How can the Jehovah's Witnesses not believe the Lord Jesus is God despite the fact that He has "perfect power" (omnipotence) and "perfect wisdom" (omniscience)?

Jehovah's Witness do not, nor have they ever believe Jesus to be "omnipotent" or "omniscient". On the contrary, we recognize that there were things that Jesus by his own admission did not know or were beyond his power (compare Mat 24:36; Mat 20: 23). In no publication produced by the Watchtower Society will you ever read the words "omnipotence" or "omniscience" associated with with Jesus.

JWs believe such powers in absolute belong only to Jehovah God the Almighty.The Watchtower of May 15th, 1986 page 4 states the following

Jehovah is also all-knowing, all-wise"omniscient. He can foresee whatever he wishes to foresee. Of him it is said: There is not a creation that is not manifest to his sight, but all things are naked and openly exposed to the eyes of him with whom we have an accounting."Hebrews 4:13.

NOTE: Jehovah's Witnesses understand Jehovah's omiscience to be inherent which means it does not negate him being selective in his exercise of foreknowledge.

FOR FURTHER DETAILS PLEASE CONSULT MY EARLIER POSTS ON THIS SUBJECT

Jehovah's Omniscience HERE
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 068#849068

Scriptural Reasons why Jesus is not Almighty God
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 572#751572

How could Jesus be given authority he already had?
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 355#829355

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 1 by Faber]



QUESTION: What then is the meaning of the statements found in the JW book "The Finished Mystery" that Jesus has "perfect power"and "perfect wisdom"?

[Revelation] 5:6. And I beheld, [and lo,] in the midst of the Throne [...]

"Having seven horns. " Perfect power. "All power is given unto Me in Heaven and in earth." " Matt. 28:18; 1 Sam. 2:1, 10; Deut. 33:17; 1 Ki. 22:11.

And seven eyes. " Perfect wisdom. "In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." " Col. 2:3; Zech. 3:9; 4:10; Rev. 1:4; 3:1; 4:5; 2 Chron. 16:9."

- The Finished Mystery, p.100
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/finish ... /fmr5.html

The word "perfect" does not necessarily imply "absolute" or exhaustive. In the bible "perfect" is often used in the sence of being complete. The bible Encyclopedia Insight on the Scripture (published by Jehovah's Witnesses) makes the following statement under the section PERFECTION:

"In the Christian Greek Scriptures the words telei-os (adjective), te-lei-otes (noun), and te-lei-oo (verb) are used similarly, conveying such ideas as bringing to completeness or full measure (Lu 8:14; 2Co 12:9; Jas 1:4), being full grown, adult, or mature (1Co 14:20; Heb 5:14), having attained the appropriate or appointed end, purpose, or goal (Joh 19:28; Php 3:12)." - It Vol II p. 602 par1
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003440#h=2

It goes on to make the following statement [paragraph 3]:

"For correct Bible understanding one must not make the common error of thinking that everything called perfect is so in an absolute sense, that is, to an infinite degree, without limitation. Perfection in this absolute sense distinguishes only the Creator, Jehovah God. [...] Perfection of any other person or thing, then, is relative, not absolute. (Compare Ps 119:96.) That is, a thing is perfect according to, or in relation to, the purpose or end for which it is appointed by its designer or producer, or the use to which it is to be put by its receiver or user.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200003440#h=4

The book "The Finished Mystery - A helping Hand for bible students" published in1918 which refered to Jesus "perfect" power and "wisdom" cannot thus be taken to be synonymous with "omnipotence" or "omniscience" but rather to mean that Jesus' power and wisdom is complete, whole in "relation to the purose for which he has been appointed" as per the scriptures the book itself sites.

Published 1918

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SIN , PERFECTION , and ...THE RANSOM

[Faber]

In the article you cited Revelation 5:6 was not mentioned.

[JehovahsWitness]

In the article you cited Revelation 5:6 was not mentioned.

See edit. Originally my quotation was too short, this has since been corrected (see above)

JW

[Faber]

Thanks for pointing that out.

[marco]

How can the Jehovah's Witnesses not believe the Lord Jesus is God despite the fact that He has "perfect power" (omnipotence) and "perfect wisdom" (omniscience)?

While one might take issue with Jehovah's Witnesses on other points, it seems reasonable for them to accept Christ is not Yahweh. Your extrapolations from Revelation are hardly conclusive. The imagery there depicted can mean anything or nothing.