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ttruscott
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Post #4311
ttruscott donated 100 tokens to McCulloch
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...as promised!
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 538#666538
...as promised!
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
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JoeyKnothead
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Post #4312
JoeyKnothead donated 100 tokens to Zzyzx
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"When we use mathematics to understand and describe the relationship between the Earth and the Sun, for instance, that is just our way of expressing the relationship that exists. There is no reason to conclude that the Earth – Sun relationship was developed on the basis of mathematics."
Zzyzx. Long may he reign.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 611#666611
"When we use mathematics to understand and describe the relationship between the Earth and the Sun, for instance, that is just our way of expressing the relationship that exists. There is no reason to conclude that the Earth – Sun relationship was developed on the basis of mathematics."
Zzyzx. Long may he reign.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
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JoeyKnothead
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Post #4313
JoeyKnothead donated 100 tokens to Jashwell
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Jashwell and good data is like biscuits and gravy. You can get your fill of biscuits, but as long as there's gravy left, you keep asking for more biscuits.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 589#666589
Jashwell and good data is like biscuits and gravy. You can get your fill of biscuits, but as long as there's gravy left, you keep asking for more biscuits.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
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Divine Insight
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Post #4314
Divine Insight donated 1000 tokens to Zzyzx
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 800#666800
Excellent point.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 800#666800
Excellent point.
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Spiritual Growth - A person's continual assessment
of how well they believe they are doing
relative to what they believe a personal God expects of them.
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Spiritual Growth - A person's continual assessment
of how well they believe they are doing
relative to what they believe a personal God expects of them.
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Divine Insight
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Post #4315
Divine Insight donated 1000 tokens to FarWanderer
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 829#666829
Excellent catch of a totally circular argument.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 829#666829
Excellent catch of a totally circular argument.
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Spiritual Growth - A person's continual assessment
of how well they believe they are doing
relative to what they believe a personal God expects of them.
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Spiritual Growth - A person's continual assessment
of how well they believe they are doing
relative to what they believe a personal God expects of them.
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McCulloch
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Post #4316
McCulloch donated 95.95 tokens to Divine Insight
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 855#666855
Well said.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 855#666855
Well said.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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Inigo Montoya
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Post #4317
Inigo Montoya donated 100 tokens to McCulloch
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That was one of the most intelligent and concisely written, not to mention utterly damning, responses I've ever read anywhere.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 883#666883
That was one of the most intelligent and concisely written, not to mention utterly damning, responses I've ever read anywhere.
"The historical method can only tell us what probably or most likely happened in the past. Since miracles are, by definition, improbable, if not in fact impossible, they are methodologically outside the bounds of historical inquiry.
History, then, as a disciple, cannot tell us if Jesus was divine or worked miracles any more than it can for Alexander the Great or Caesar Augustus[...]Any supernatural claim about Jesus can only be accepted as a matter of faith. Again, this is the domain of theology rather than history."
-Historia
History, then, as a disciple, cannot tell us if Jesus was divine or worked miracles any more than it can for Alexander the Great or Caesar Augustus[...]Any supernatural claim about Jesus can only be accepted as a matter of faith. Again, this is the domain of theology rather than history."
-Historia
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ttruscott
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Post #4318
ttruscott donated 100 tokens to dianaiad
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 978#666978
Good answer...
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Good answer...
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
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Elijah John
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Post #4319
Elijah John donated 100 tokens to cnorman18
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 769#666769
Nice find, well stated.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 769#666769
Nice find, well stated.
My theological positions:
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
-God created us in His image, not the other way around.
-The Bible is redeemed by it's good parts.
-Pure monotheism, simple repentance.
-YHVH is LORD
-The real Jesus is not God, the real YHVH is not a monster.
-Eternal life is a gift from the Living God.
-Keep the Commandments, keep your salvation.
-I have accepted YHVH as my Heavenly Father, LORD and Savior.
I am inspired by Jesus to worship none but YHVH, and to serve only Him.
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JoeyKnothead
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Post #4320
JoeyKnothead donated 100 tokens to cnorman18
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It gets expensive when my friend sets to posting.
I hope he bankrupts me. Least I'll come out knowing more'n before.
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http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 168#667168
It gets expensive when my friend sets to posting.
I hope he bankrupts me. Least I'll come out knowing more'n before.
I might be Teddy Roosevelt, but I ain't.
-Punkinhead Martin
-Punkinhead Martin
