There is no secular or theological challenge to be made that a "Christian marriage" isn't immutably a man and woman/husband and wife. Therefore, it should be a criminal act under current hate crimes laws, to accuse a Christian of hate, bigotry, or irrational . . ., if they assert the immutability of the structure of marriage as man and woman/husband and wife.
As Jesus proclaimed it in the Gospels and the writings reaffirm and define it so.
Why would anyone, religious or secularist, NOT support and affirm Christians adhering to the consistent and immutable Biblical teaching that a marriage is a man/husband and woman/wife?
Christian marriage is man and woman/husband and wife.
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Post #1011
Stan wrote:Clownboat wrote:
I'm curious just how far in the sand you are able to stick your head.
http://www.yalescientific.org/2012/03/d ... sexuality/
Recent research has found that homosexual behavior in animals may be much more common than previously thought.
Currently, homosexual behavior has been documented in over 450 different animal species worldwide.
In addition, male giraffes have also been observed engaging in homosexual behavior by rubbing their necks against each others’ bodies while ignoring the females. Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates.
Thus, not only do animals exhibit homosexuality, but the existence of this behavior is quite prevalent and may also confer certain evolutionary advantages.
Remember readers, there is no homosexuality in nature. Stan, said so.People of my ilk? Why the need to make an enemy out of me? I'm a regular human being just like yourself. From where does this anger stem from that would require you to be derogatory?and as usual people of your ilk ignore or gloss over words like MAY, APPARENT, SEEM, etc....
You conveniently ignored this:Women holding hands are NOT engaging in homosexual activities, not more than rabbits huddling or male giraffes playing. Muslim men often walk arm in arm, THAT does not make them gay. Many men kiss one another on their cheek in certain cultures, and THAT does not make them gay. You talk about using common sense, and use NONE in advocating the veracity of these type of articles.
Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. You seem to focus on the sex part of homosexuality, so please look up copulate if you don't already of an understanding of the word.
I would imagine you would say this about anyone you determine to be of my ilk. Yet there are examples of homosexuality in nature that you hand waive away because you saw a couple girls holding hands.Your head must be buried all the way up to your butt, to not see how invalid these articles are.
What is it about so many Christians that cannot seem to talk about homosexuality without going straight to sex?Homosexual behavior is the sex act, hence the word homoSEXUAL. I suggest you have another coffee or three!
Stan, please learn what homosexuality really is, it would help us to debate it.
Homosexuality (from Ancient Greek �μός, meaning "same", and Latin sexus, meaning "sex") is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. "It also refers to an individual's sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
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Post #1012
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15
2 Tim 2:15
Post #1013
Well I would suggest your imagination carries no weight in the christian world and that renders the bible's authority void.
I'll tell you everything I've learned...................
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
Post #1014
???? I suggest you look up the word ILK and improve your vocabulary.Clownboat wrote: People of my ilk? Why the need to make an enemy out of me? I'm a regular human being just like yourself. From where does this anger stem from that would require you to be derogatory?
If you studied as hard as you would like us to think you did, then you would know that this species of lizard is UNI sexual, humans are NOT.Clownboat wrote: You conveniently ignored this:
Yet another example is lizards of the genus Teiidae, which can copulate with both male and female mates. You seem to focus on the sex part of homosexuality, so please look up copulate if you don't already of an understanding of the word.
Quite obvious they were created that way and as they are , they CAN'T be HOMO sexual now can they? Please stop being so disingenuous.
and I've addressed all these attributes which you conveniently ignore or forget, and try to prevaricate on. The issue IS the sex act. Sorry you can handle the truth. (my best Nicholson impersonation)Clownboat wrote: What is it about so many Christians that cannot seem to talk about homosexuality without going straight to sex?
Stan, please learn what homosexuality really is, it would help us to debate it.
Homosexuality (from Ancient Greek �μός, meaning "same", and Latin sexus, meaning "sex") is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender. As an orientation, homosexuality refers to "an enduring pattern of or disposition to experience sexual, affectionate, or romantic attractions" primarily or exclusively to people of the same sex. "It also refers to an individual's sense of personal and social identity based on those attractions, behaviors expressing them, and membership in a community of others who share them. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/defin ... homosexual
It helps when you use REAL dictionary sites, and NOT Wiki.
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15
2 Tim 2:15
Post #1015
10CC wrote: Well I would suggest your imagination carries no weight in the christian world and that renders the bible's authority void.
It's God's Word, NOT my imagination, despite your prevarication. It has a lot of weight to true believers. I am not responsible for it to make sense to YOU, just to voice it.
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15
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Post #1016
Show me this god's word that makes the bible the authority for christianity.Stan wrote:10CC wrote: Well I would suggest your imagination carries no weight in the christian world and that renders the bible's authority void.
It's God's Word, NOT my imagination, despite your prevarication. It has a lot of weight to true believers. I am not responsible for it to make sense to YOU, just to voice it.
I'll tell you everything I've learned...................
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
Post #1017
[Replying to post 1014 by 10CC]
Why would I try to show you something you don't believe exists? I may be retired but I still don't want to WASTE my time.
Why would I try to show you something you don't believe exists? I may be retired but I still don't want to WASTE my time.
Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
2 Tim 2:15
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Post #1018
Paraphrased= I can't show you because it doesn't exist. IMOStan wrote: [Replying to post 1014 by 10CC]
Why would I try to show you something you don't believe exists? I may be retired but I still don't want to WASTE my time.
Thank you
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I'll tell you everything I've learned...................
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
and LOVE is all he said
-The Boy With The Moon and Star On His Head-Cat Stevens.
Post #1019
10CC wrote:Paraphrased= I can't show you because it doesn't exist.Stan wrote: [Replying to post 1014 by 10CC]
Why would I try to show you something you don't believe exists? I may be retired but I still don't want to WASTE my time.
Thank you
That would be slander...I'll have to run it my the mods.
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Moderator Comment10CC wrote: Paraphrased= I can't show you because it doesn't exist.
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