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should homosexuals be executed?

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The bible clearly states that homosexual acts are punishable by death.

Lev 20:13

If a man lie swith another man the way he lies with a woman , both of them have committed a detestable act, they shall surely be put to death ;they have brought this on their own heads

It appears to me anything short of the death penalty is meaningless to God. Why won't the "straight agenda" recognize this?

Question for debate should there be a death penalty for LGBT individuals?

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[Replying to bluethread]

I think Snowden is a bad example. When confronted with the government performing illegal activities it essentially in my view voids any contract to secrecy as that would make you complicit in those activities(catch 22 scenario guilty if he did guilty if he didn't). Now I don't think he had the best exit strategy in the world but it is our patriotic duty to hold our government accountable and that no man woman or agency is above the rule of law.

Why other than some arbitrary designation not based in the realm of reason or logic should we execute Snowden?

Why should Turing have been executed? Was his deeds so egrigous that he deserved go die? Was he such a threat that we kill him?

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It's hard to respond in the light of Jesus. Call it hypocritical but Christians acknowledge that we are hypocrites. To be a Christian is to be hypocritical in understanding God's justice and yet being willing to accept His mercy.

Not everyone can so easily the logs in their own eyes.

The old testament's purpose and especially it's laws is to show that the wages of sin are death. It's why the penalty for everything was basically death and why I am sure in practise mercy was often applied.

But we have no appreciation for the stakes God is playing. It is our souls. And that 'stake' has no credibility for most people who will disagree with me.

So Christians today will need
Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

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In other religions this is allowed 100% or how I say other countries.

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[Replying to post 42 by Beyonder]

So that makes it ok?

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[color=blue]dbohm[/color] wrote: There are judicial laws, ceremonial laws, covenantal laws, and natural law.
Evangelicals like to say this, but where is the evidence for this? It's not in the Bible, it's not in traditional Christian interpretations of the law, and it's not in Jewish interpretations of the law. All of them simply treat them as "God's commands." It's only recent (evangelical) Protestant interpretation that has invented "ceremonial law," "natural law," and so on. It's a complete fabrication.
[color=green]dbohm[/color] wrote:The books of Leviticus and Exodus are a mishmash of all of them. According to Christian tradition and even Jewish tradition all of these can and have changed over time except natural law.
Where in Christian or Jewish tradition does it say this? Jews certainly don't believe that the 613 mitzvot (laws) have changed, though some are only in effect with a functioning temple and many Jews don't interpret them literally. Christian tradition doesn't say the laws have or will change. Jesus said the law was unchanging. Where does this idea of changing law come from?

It's just an evangelical fabrication to get out of "inconvenient" situations.
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dbohm wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to dbohm]

This is just one of those things the Catholic church just makes up. We are sort of witnessing a change of church doctrine and tradition before our very eyes with the new Pope. It's a bit of a double edged sword really, Catholics enjoy the fluidity to adapt its doctrine to an ever changing moral landscape however
If you actually read the final report on the recent Synod on marriage and not get cues from the mass media you would realise that no change in doctrine has occurred or will occur. Despite what some Protestants or atheists with Protestant viewpoints say, Catholic doctrine does not change over time.
Who should we believe?

VATICAN CITY Addressing a key question raised by the Synod of Bishops on the family, a German cardinal said Friday that church doctrine can change over time.
The church's doctrine, Cardinal Reinhard Marx said, "doesn't depend on the sprit of time but can develop over time."

"Saying that the doctrine will never change is a restrictive view of things," Marx said at a Vatican press conference Friday.
http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/cardi ... lop-change
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Answer Nah... as then we would have to also kill all the heterosexuals that do anal sex, and then we would have to kill all the rebellious teenagers that backtalk and are rebellious, as dictated by the law...

Too much killing, those in love that can produce should do just fine, creating new life, and the others can help in taking care of them no matter what their personal orientation is. Lert freedom and love and care and respect REIGN. The rain of love, upon the reign of respect.

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Re: should homosexuals be executed?

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[Replying to post 1 by DanieltheDragon]

Modern Christian hypocrisy at its best. The bible is the word of God and true, but ONLY when it doesn't offend popular insights!
As time passes, the bible and many of its teachings are tweeked to match societies rules.
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DanieltheDragon wrote:Question for debate should there be a death penalty for LGBT individuals?

No I don't believe that should be the case today. God will judge us all, including homosexuals in His own time.

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Re: should homosexuals be executed?

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JehovahsWitness wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote:Question for debate should there be a death penalty for LGBT individuals?

No I don't believe that should be the case today. God will judge us all, including homosexuals in His own time.

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Why not today?

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