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should homosexuals be executed?

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The bible clearly states that homosexual acts are punishable by death.

Lev 20:13

If a man lie swith another man the way he lies with a woman , both of them have committed a detestable act, they shall surely be put to death ;they have brought this on their own heads

It appears to me anything short of the death penalty is meaningless to God. Why won't the "straight agenda" recognize this?

Question for debate should there be a death penalty for LGBT individuals?

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DanieltheDragon wrote:
Why not today?

Would you support legal discrimination based on sexual status?

Because my beliefs are based on the bible. According to scripture "Christ is the end of the law" meaning that the Mosaic law code was fulfilled by Christ and subsequently the Christian law code replaced the Jewish religious system of worship. The Christian law (which we can read in the Greek Scriptures (New Testament), does not authorize the execution of homosexuals.
DanieltheDragon wrote: Would you support legal discrimination based on sexual status?
No, I don't support any discrimination.
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[Replying to post 50 by JehovahsWitness]

Fair enough. Does the Jehovah's Witness have a specific list of the 613 commandments that are considered fulfilled? Or is it simply the trial and punishment aspects that have been relegated to the afterlife?
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DanieltheDragon wrote:The bible clearly states that homosexual acts are punishable by death.
The Christian Scriptures clearly say that people are no longer bound to follow the minutia of the law contained in the OT (e.g. [font=Georgia]Galatians 4:23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law [the OT], kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.[/font]) As for proscriptions against embracing homosexual behavior, they are contained in the NT, which Christians cannot dismiss.

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JLB32168 wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote:The bible clearly states that homosexual acts are punishable by death.
The Christian Scriptures clearly say that people are no longer bound to follow the minutia of the law contained in the OT (e.g. [font=Georgia]Galatians 4:23 But before faith came, we were kept under guard by the law [the OT], kept for the faith which would afterward be revealed. 24 Therefore the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.[/font]) As for proscriptions against embracing homosexual behavior, they are contained in the NT, which Christians cannot dismiss.
Your claim is demonstrably false.
Christians can and do dismiss that there is anything wrong with embracing homosexual behavior.

Many have examined Paul's words and realized that the word 'homosexual' was not in the Bible until 1946. Some also realize that Paul was or may have been talking about temple prostitution.

Christians can and do embrace homosexuality.

Gay marriage sounds like an ultra-contemporary idea. But almost twenty years ago, a Catholic scholar at Yale shocked the world by publishing a book packed with evidence that same-sex marriages were sanctioned by the early Christian Church during an era commonly called the Dark Ages.

John Boswell was a historian and religious Catholic who dedicated much of his scholarly life to studying the late Roman Empire and early Christian Church. Poring over legal and church documents from this era, he discovered something incredible. There were dozens of records of church ceremonies where two men were joined in unions that used the same rituals as heterosexual marriages.
http://io9.com/gay-marriage-in-the-year ... -951140108

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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 50 by JehovahsWitness]

Fair enough. Does the Jehovah's Witness have a specific list of the 613 commandments that are considered fulfilled?
Any Jehovah's Witnesses "lists" are in the Christian bible; The bible explains that entire (Mosaic) law was fulfilled in the body of Jesus Christ since only he kept all the laws perfectly. That is why we consider them fulfilled.
DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 50 by JehovahsWitness]
Or is it simply the trial and punishment aspects that have been relegated to the afterlife?
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in an "afterlife".


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JehovahsWitness wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 50 by JehovahsWitness]
Or is it simply the trial and punishment aspects that have been relegated to the afterlife?
Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in an "afterlife".


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DanieltheDragon wrote: The bible clearly states that homosexual acts are punishable by death.

Lev 20:13

If a man lie swith another man the way he lies with a woman , both of them have committed a detestable act, they shall surely be put to death ;they have brought this on their own heads

It appears to me anything short of the death penalty is meaningless to God. Why won't the "straight agenda" recognize this?

Question for debate should there be a death penalty for LGBT individuals?
That commandment in Leviticus is only about anal sex and certainly not about female homosexuality which isn't even mentioned in the bible including Romans 1:26. Perhaps the better question is - should both a male and female who have anal sex together also be executed according to biblical law?

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[Replying to post 56 by mitty]

Sure hat could be applicable, for the purposes of this discussion we are going on a losse baseline interpretation on the subject as the closest thing the bible broaches on the subject. Certainly your point does have merit as many modern churches lean this way.
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DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 56 by mitty]

Sure hat could be applicable, for the purposes of this discussion we are going on a losse baseline interpretation on the subject as the closest thing the bible broaches on the subject. Certainly your point does have merit as many modern churches lean this way.
In other words Leviticus 18 & 20 should also say "Thou shalt not lie with womankind as with mankind: it is abomination".

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mitty wrote:
DanieltheDragon wrote: [Replying to post 56 by mitty]

Sure hat could be applicable, for the purposes of this discussion we are going on a losse baseline interpretation on the subject as the closest thing the bible broaches on the subject. Certainly your point does have merit as many modern churches lean this way.
In other words Leviticus 18 & 20 should also say "Thou shalt not lie with womankind as with mankind: it is abomination".
Yes, that's what it should say. It's clearly 'gender specific' for a reason. Does anyone know WHY it's gender specific?

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