The Gay Denomination.
For those people that desire same gender sexual behavior or thoughts, AND that claim to be a Christian and claim that their beliefs and theology can fit the New Testament witness, instead of waging an endless, fruitless and vicious war on other Christians - that will NEVER accept their gay doctrines and dogmas . . ., - why won't they just declare a new and alternative denomination, just like Watch Tower theological adherants and Mormons?
Why the need to join forces with anti-Christian and secularist movements to attack "Bible believing" Christians?
Afterall, in referencing the New Testament, there is no justifiable comparison of sex acts to being a slave (slavery), or the charge of bigotry and hatefulness in holding that marriage is a man and a woman.
Why not just start an "Out and Proud" Gay Denomination?
The Gay Denomination?
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Post #1191
HeIsLegend83 wrote:Tex wrote:KCKID wrote:Tex wrote:Then any preacher who marries a homosexual couple, is doing out of his own will.
Similarly so for those preachers who perform serial heterosexual marriages. It sure ain't scriptural.
Tex wrote:The Bible is clear in what marriage is. Lord Jesus was clear in what marriage was.
Clear? Tell that to the close to 50% of 'God-ordained' marriages that end up in divorce, not to mention the huge percentage of those who remain married but live a life of misery. "And they lived happily ever after" is NOT the story-book ending of many of these so-called 'Bible-based' marriages that supposedly warm the cockles of one's heart so, Tex. Even if we had never heard the term 'homosexual', heterosexuals would have made a mockery out of what the Bible 'clearly states' marriage is. You and 99 need to remove your blinders and look at the REAL issues that affect your 'Bible-based' Churches!
Tex wrote:It did not consist of two people of the same gender. This is just a friendship. It can't be more and will never be more.
Clearly you are wrong since 'gay' marriages DO exist. Some couples, in fact, have remained together for decades. Maybe you should tell them that their relationship can't be more and never will be more than just a friendship. They are obviously not aware of that.
You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
That is lie. The truth is the truth. You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender. Why is it so hard for you to understand. It's common sense.
The bond between ANY two individuals of ANY gender is not the same. Who are you to claim to understand the romantic bond between two people of the same gender? Have you experienced it?
Wow...What wrong with the world today....Does anyone know the difference between a man and a women? Have we had it wrong for all these years and now only realized that men and women are the same?
Post #1192
Tex wrote:KCKID wrote:Tex wrote:Then any preacher who marries a homosexual couple, is doing out of his own will.
Similarly so for those preachers who perform serial heterosexual marriages. It sure ain't scriptural.
Tex wrote:The Bible is clear in what marriage is. Lord Jesus was clear in what marriage was.
Clear? Tell that to the close to 50% of 'God-ordained' marriages that end up in divorce, not to mention the huge percentage of those who remain married but live a life of misery. "And they lived happily ever after" is NOT the story-book ending of many of these so-called 'Bible-based' marriages that supposedly warm the cockles of one's heart so, Tex. Even if we had never heard the term 'homosexual', heterosexuals would have made a mockery out of what the Bible 'clearly states' marriage is. You and 99 need to remove your blinders and look at the REAL issues that affect your 'Bible-based' Churches!
Tex wrote:It did not consist of two people of the same gender. This is just a friendship. It can't be more and will never be more.
Clearly you are wrong since 'gay' marriages DO exist. Some couples, in fact, have remained together for decades. Maybe you should tell them that their relationship can't be more and never will be more than just a friendship. They are obviously not aware of that.
Who's complaining?Tex wrote:You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
And, what I may want or not want has no bearing on what others may want for their lives. It's not up to me - OR you OR the Bible - to dictate to others who they SHOULD be attracted to and who they SHOULD marry if they so choose.
WHAT is a lie? That some 'gay' folks have been committed to each other for decades?Tex wrote:That is lie.
What is 'truth'?Tex wrote:The truth is the truth.
I keep telling you ...it's not up to me, to you, or the Bible to dictate to anyone else who they should or who they should not 'bond' with.Tex wrote:You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender.
So, if I don't agree with your thoughts on this subject then I'm somehow having difficulty understanding ...?Tex wrote:Why is it so hard for you to understand.
What does common sense have to do with who one is attracted to or/and who one desires to 'bond' with?Tex wrote:It's common sense.
Post #1193
KCKID wrote:Tex wrote:KCKID wrote:Tex wrote:Then any preacher who marries a homosexual couple, is doing out of his own will.
Similarly so for those preachers who perform serial heterosexual marriages. It sure ain't scriptural.
Tex wrote:The Bible is clear in what marriage is. Lord Jesus was clear in what marriage was.
Clear? Tell that to the close to 50% of 'God-ordained' marriages that end up in divorce, not to mention the huge percentage of those who remain married but live a life of misery. "And they lived happily ever after" is NOT the story-book ending of many of these so-called 'Bible-based' marriages that supposedly warm the cockles of one's heart so, Tex. Even if we had never heard the term 'homosexual', heterosexuals would have made a mockery out of what the Bible 'clearly states' marriage is. You and 99 need to remove your blinders and look at the REAL issues that affect your 'Bible-based' Churches!
Tex wrote:It did not consist of two people of the same gender. This is just a friendship. It can't be more and will never be more.
Clearly you are wrong since 'gay' marriages DO exist. Some couples, in fact, have remained together for decades. Maybe you should tell them that their relationship can't be more and never will be more than just a friendship. They are obviously not aware of that.
Tex wrote:You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
Who's complaining?
And, what I may want or not want has no bearing on what others may want for their lives. It's not up to me - OR you OR the Bible - to dictate to others who they SHOULD be attracted to and who they SHOULD marry if they so choose.
Tex wrote:That is lie.
WHAT is a lie? That some 'gay' folks have been committed to each other for decades?
Tex wrote:The truth is the truth.
What is 'truth'?
Tex wrote:You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender.
I keep telling you ...it's not up to me, to you, or the Bible to dictate to anyone else who they should or who they should not 'bond' with.
Tex wrote:Why is it so hard for you to understand.
So, if I don't agree with your thoughts on this subject then I'm somehow having difficulty understanding ...?
Tex wrote:It's common sense.
What does common sense have to do with who one is attracted to or/and who one desires to 'bond' with?
This is the world we live in today....Where people pretend they don't see any difference between the two relationships. Just so they can have what they want.
Marriage is the union of a male and female. Wake up already.
Two people of the same sex cannot be married because one of the genders is missing.
Post #1194
What does common sense have to do with who one is attracted to or/and who one desires to 'bond' with?
Very truthful question in the world we live in today. Who care..as long as it feels good it must be right. Tell that to the person who weights in at 500lbs
Post #1195
Yet life-long monogamous gay relationships continue to exist despite your complaining.Tex wrote:
You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
That is lie. The truth is the truth. You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender. Why is it so hard for you to understand. It's common sense.
Words are alive. Cut them and they bleed. --Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Believing that religion is a botched attempt to explain the world is on the same intellectual level as seeing ballet as a botched attempt to run for a bus. --Terry Eagleton
Post #1196
So....The world has to change because gay people have to be noticed?kayky wrote:Yet life-long monogamous gay relationships continue to exist despite your complaining.Tex wrote:
You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
That is lie. The truth is the truth. You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender. Why is it so hard for you to understand. It's common sense.
Post #1197
Sounds awful 'Big Brother', Tex. You want robots who are programmed by Fundamental Christians to follow the words (but not ALL ...conveniently only some!) from a book. If you and 99 had your way that's precisely the kind of a world you would envisage ...he probably more so than you. Thank God that people ARE free to 'have what they want' when it comes to relationships ...albeit continually hampered and harrassed by Christian Fundamentalists who believe that the robot is malfunctioning if it deviates from the programming. "This does not compute, this does not compute, this does not compute, this does not . . ."Tex wrote:This is the world we live in today....Where people pretend they don't see any difference between the two relationships. Just so they can have what they want.
Okay. Then marry a woman. Who is stopping you???Tex wrote:Marriage is the union of a male and female.
Precisely. Right back at ya!Tex wrote:Wake up already.
Well, we perhaps need to inform those involved in monogamous 'gay' relationships that Tex does NOT approve and they should therefore separate, stat!Tex wrote:Two people of the same sex cannot be married because one of the genders is missing.
Post #1198
KCKID wrote:Tex wrote:This is the world we live in today....Where people pretend they don't see any difference between the two relationships. Just so they can have what they want.
Sounds awful 'Big Brother', Tex. You want robots who are programmed by Fundamental Christians to follow the words (but not ALL ...conveniently only some!) from a book. If you and 99 had your way that's precisely the kind of a world you would envisage ...he probably more so than you. Thank God that people ARE free to 'have what they want' when it comes to relationships ...albeit continually hampered and harassed by Christian Fundamentalists who believe that the robot is malfunctioning if it deviates from the programming. "This does not compute, this does not compute, this does not compute, this does not . . ."
Tex wrote:Marriage is the union of a male and female.
Okay. Then marry a woman. Who is stopping you???
Tex wrote:Wake up already.
Precisely. Right back at ya!
Tex wrote:Two people of the same sex cannot be married because one of the genders is missing.
Well, we perhaps need to inform those involved in monogamous 'gay' relationships that Tex does NOT approve and they should therefore separate, stat!
Yet again....Pretending.....who said anything about "separating"? They can live as they wish. But it will never be considered a marriage. A marriage is the union of a MALE AND FEMALE.
Sorry...I meant: a marriage to God. The world on the other hand, will do as it likes and always has.
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Tex, do you honestly not see how serious this issue is? It's about a group of people who are WHO they are through no choice of their own. And, BECAUSE of this they are being spurned, probably not so much by you, but by those Fundamentalist Christians who not only believe themselves to be 'the holy ones' but as a result of their perceived righteousness delight in hitting people over the head with a book that they don't understand themselves.Tex wrote:So....The world has to change because gay people have to be noticed?kayky wrote:Yet life-long monogamous gay relationships continue to exist despite your complaining.Tex wrote:
You're just complaining because you want the bond of a women and Man to the same as that of two people of the same gender.
That is lie. The truth is the truth. You cannot call the bond of a women and man the same as that of two people of the same gender. Why is it so hard for you to understand. It's common sense.
No offense intended but conversing with you is rather like conversing with a child.
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Post #1200
Tex wrote:
Don't you need a license of some kind to claim to speak for God with such authority? I just asked God about it and he told me you were full of BS.
.Sorry...I meant: a marriage to God. The world on the other hand, will do as it likes and always has
Don't you need a license of some kind to claim to speak for God with such authority? I just asked God about it and he told me you were full of BS.