The Only Solution to Humanity's Crisis : To the United Natio

[ivysunday]

The Only Solution to Humanity's Crisis : To the United Nations


Economic and Social Council
The United Nations


Dear Mr. Alberto Padova，

Our environment and climate continue to deteriorate and neither can be solved by the Kyoto Protocol or the Paris Agreement. The only way for us to save ourselves is to completely change our traditional modes of production and life.

If we continue to follow our current production and life modes, then these eight crises will remain unresolved:
1. Overpopulation
2. Humanity's greed and lust
3. Environmental Degradation
4. Climatic Deterioration
5. Loss and waste of Resources
6. Less stable Ecological Environments
7. Refugee Problems (they will continue to increase)
8. Conflicts between Nationalities, Religions, Cultures, and Interest Groups
These problems above can only be solved by changing our traditional production and life modes. Everyone yearns for a good life, but how can it be obtained?

It will not be by preaching morality, enforcing laws and regulations, following religious precepts, redistributing money and material assistance, constant meetings and discussions of governments or even the UN, warnings and threats, or even by force. It is only by changing our production and life modes that these crises can be solved.

What kind of production and life modes should be changed?
First of all, we should break up traditional marriages and families because they are the sources of human selfishness, the birthplaces of human crises, and the headstreams of all crime and evil. They are also the curb chains which prevent us all from leading happy, joyous, free, and blessed lives, but rather make people feel anxious, miserable, and fearful.

Our mode of production should change from a pattern of possessing to one of sharing; from one of competing predatorily to one of serving each other enthusiastically.

The rest of the contents involved are too broad to discuss here, but I can offer much more information based on my experience - if the UN is interested.


How do we change nearly everyone’s traditional production and life modes?
To implement that of the New Oasis for Life as created by the Lifechanyuan.

We have been experimenting with and improving upon this mode in mainland China for nine years, and the results have been very encouraging. More than two hundred people have participated in our experiment over the past ten years and one hundred and fifty of them have resided within the New Oasis for Life for extended periods of time. The remarkable signs of this mode are that exclusive marriages and families have disappeared, supporting our elderly and rearing and educating our children have been managed well, the crime rate has dropped to zero, our members’ health has improved greatly, pollution to our local environment has dropped to near zero, and our waste of resources and carbon footprint have been reduced greatly. Our people's happiness indices have risen higher than those in any of the developed countries in the world.

There are many more advantages over the traditional production and life modes which are difficult to describe here in detail but of which we have published many written descriptions, photographic proofs, and video displays, and we want the UN to understand them in detail. We can provide a great deal of information as evidence to study and judge.


If people do not change their traditional production and life modes completely and adopt these of the New Oasis for Life as created by Lifechanyuan, then the prospect of sustained development will remain distant and uncertain.

At this juncture between our continuation as a species and our extinction, we are hopeful that the UN will send people to study and demonstrate it as soon as possible and make it a project to be put into practice as has been done by Lifechanyuan. To bring about the new models of production and life modes sooner rather than later, let people from all over the world visit, study, and experience it. In this way, humanity’s situation can change completely and our futures will be blessed and sustainable.

It is impossible to change humanity’s dangerous predicament at once and even if the brakes were applied immediately, the inertia of traditional thinking would last for decades, by which time it would be too late.

So, the best way to do this would be to build new models of production and life modes which are intuitive, that people can see and experience in person, and that can be copied and replicated everywhere. If the New Oasis for Life mode were to be repeated by millions of people, then the beautiful ideal that mankind has dreamed of for thousands of years would surely be realized.


How do we build a model of this new production and life mode?
We would establish a New Oasis for Life in mainland China, in the United States of America, or in Zimbabwe, Africa with three hundred resident members including people from various religious, cultural, national, and ethnic backgrounds under the auspices of the United Nations and implemented by Lifechanyuan.

We encourage the United Nations to persuade one or more of those three governments to agree to allow us to create a New Oasis for Life on their territory and also to allow the foreign people involved in its creation to enter and leave freely.

The place where the New Oasis for Life would be created would be chosen and financed by Lifechanyuan and purchased or leased according to existing local policies. Of course it would help if the UN could help with the funding because if they were to do so, then it would be quicker and easier to build and the new model could unfold more quickly.

It would be effortless for the UN to help us to create this model of the new production and life modes, but the benefits would be endless and would benefit many future generations, so why not put it into practice?

It is better to teach people to catch fish than to give them some fish.

If the UN turns a blind eye to my proposal and ignores it, then you will have to deal with many types of devastation everywhere for many years to come.

We look forward to positive, encouraging news from your organization.

[ivysunday]

[Replying to post 16 by Divine Insight]

Thanks, I agree that it a choice to be carefree or not. Our wisdom, our attituade decide all this.

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The Future of Humanity


Xuefeng
(Translated by Conglong)


We all look forward to an era where everyone will have a happy and worry-free life.

Let’s suppose the Greatest Creator and gods do not exist, are we able to realize this dream only by relying on the wisdom of humanity?

The answer is no. Without the guide of the Greatest Creator and the power of Gods and buddhas, human beings is not possible to realize this beautiful dream.

How many authorities will step aside for others?

How many rich men will contribute all their wealth to society?

How many poor people will work hard except having more children as long as they don’t need to worry about food?

Let’s imagine if the future of humanity is ruled by one religion, what will happen?

It would be terrible.(Please think of the reason yourself).

If the world is ruled by one secular government, what will happen?

Same, autocracy and incompetency will soak up the blood of the underprivileged.
　
If we keep current situation: different religions exist; countries act on their own will, everything is decided by the country itself, what will happen?

The world is going to collapse.
　
So, what will be the best living situation of humanity?

The core in short is : walk on the way of the Greatest Creator.

Build a “noninterference� government, promoting freedom in politics, economy,culture, thinking and spiritual pursuit.

Then, the future of humanity will be like the following:

1. All religions will gradually disappear; humans revere the same and the only Greatest Creator.

2. Wars between nations will no longer take place; no country will have a military force.

3. The leaders of each country are elected by its people; election is no longer manipulated by the minority.??Each leader serves no longer than two terms.

4. The population will no longer be increasing unlimitedly; the growthof population will be controlled.

5. Power and wealth are no longer the most important life goals of humans.

6.??People will not talk about how to fight with nature and men; the earth will become a place where all life beings coexist harmoniously.

7.??Terrorist activities are going to disappear.

8. Crimes will be decreasing year by year.

9. The care of elders and the education of the youth will become the responsibilities of the whole society, which are no longer the??private affairs individuals or families.

10. Family life is going to dissolve; relationship of men and women is going to show diverse forms.

11. Scientists and artists will be respected by the general.

12. Manual labour is not regarded as a less decent job.

13. A common Bill of Rights will be made; journalists will have greater freedom, the force of darkness in some regions will be curbed.

14. A lazy person will be regarded as miserable and incompetent; a parasite-like lifestyle will be seen as a pity.

15. Humans will be able to make new form of Life; intelligent robots will come into being, Sahara will be returning to green again.

16. A large number of supermen will appear: they discover the secret of brain,and find the channel to communicate with the Greatest Creator, and therefore they know the secret of time and space, the cause and effect relationship of lives transiting in different time and space, the secret of thinking, the power of mind, and the road towards higher level life space.These supermen will bring the material and spiritual life of humanity to a brand new level.

17. There will not be nature disasters any more, earthquakes, floods, diseases will all vanish.

18. Earth becomes a blessed paradise, which will be serene and harmonious, prosperous and vibrant; cranes are flying in the sky. People are healthy and have a long life; everyone live in peace and enjoy their job.

In conclusion, human beings will enter an unprecedented, highly developed and civilized era, an era with happiness, abundance and freedom. Everyone will transform to a celestial at the end. We will understand all secrets by that time, each moment of our life will be extremely joyful, we will meet our family and friends who have passed away, a brilliant new life will start to unfold.

However, there is a prerequisite, which is we must walk on the way of the Greatest Creator, if we ignore it, everything will be developing in the opposite direction.

[Divine Insight]

Let’s suppose the Greatest Creator and gods do not exist, are we able to realize this dream only by relying on the wisdom of humanity?

One thing we appear to agree on is that, YES, some humans do indeed have sufficient wisdom to solve the problems of humanity. Actually science has had the answers to the problems of humanity for decades. The problem is that humanity isn't acting on this wisdom.

The answer is no. Without the guide of the Greatest Creator and the power of Gods and buddhas, human beings is not possible to realize this beautiful dream.

Buddha never claimed to be God. He was simply a philosopher who thought through problems rationally and came to various conclusion. Many of his conclusions are indeed valid and sound. However, you need to keep in mind that even the Buddha taught his students not to take anything as absolute, not even his very own teachings. He taught them to check things out for themselves and make adjustments when new information becomes available.

So the Buddha was not a God.

So I ask you, "Where are we going to find any guidance from any so-called "Greatest Creator? Where can you point to that would qualify as verifiable guidance from any imagined creator?"

I've already pointed out that even Wicca has a rede they believe came from their Goddess. - "Do as you will but harm none". That already covers pretty much everything right there. Of course we would still need the knowledge of secular science to learn what may or may not ultimately be harmful. But even the Buddha had nothing to day along those lines. The Buddha had no clue about overpopulation, pollution, disease prevention, how to predict natural disasters before they occur, etc. And neither did Jesus. So neither of those two religious figures had anything to say that was actually useful.

How many authorities will step aside for others?

How many authorities are willing to step aside for religious Gods? Not too many.

In fact, how can they be asked to step aside for an imaginary authority figure that can't even be shown to exist?

Not only this, but even religious people argue over what their religious figures even taught. For example, if all that exists was say, Chrsitianity, then all that would exists are Christian Holy Wars. Christians fighting with each other over what they think Jesus supposedly stood for and taught.

The same is true for Buddhism. In fact are you actually familiar with the history of Buddhism? I took a course on the history of Buddhism and I was truly surprised to see that Buddhism has as many disagreeing factions as Christianity. In fact, Mahayana Buddhism was invented precisely to address the issue of previous factions of Buddhism that were becoming hostile toward each other over disagreement on what they believe Buddhism to even mean.

So Buddhism certainly doesn't have the answers.

How many rich men will contribute all their wealth to society?

How many rich men do it now? There are even rich preachers to actually take money from the poor in the name of God.

So why would you think that introducing religion would change how people behave. Most rich people are already religious and think that God is somehow 'blessing' them with their riches.

How many poor people will work hard except having more children as long as they don’t need to worry about food?

Again, how is religion going to help here? Most poor people already believe in a God. I live in the USA and from what I've seen in documentaries, poor people are extremely religious. In the USA people of color are currently considered to be a "minority". And statistics also show that they are typically far less wealthy than white people. Yet I've also seen documentaries that show that in the Black communities it's actually much more difficult to become open as an atheist. The Black communities are extremely religious to the point where they strongly frown on atheism. Yet those communities aren't helping to solve the problems of humanity anymore than the rich communities.

Let’s imagine if the future of humanity is ruled by one religion, what will happen?

It would be terrible.(Please think of the reason yourself).

Well, this can actually depend on which religion is in charge and who's running it. But think about this. This means that religions are human inventions, not representative of any "Greatest Creator".

If the world is ruled by one secular government, what will happen?

Again, this all depends on who the people are who are running the government. It could be great, or it could be horrific. It all depends on who the people are and what their motives are.

Same, autocracy and incompetency will soak up the blood of the underprivileged.

This also occurs in religious institutions as well. So this really has nothing to do with whether or not a religious worldview is better or worse than a secular worldview.
　

If we keep current situation: different religions exist; countries act on their own will, everything is decided by the country itself, what will happen?

The world is going to collapse.

Religions will certainly collapse and we see that happening at an unfortunately slower rate than might otherwise be beneficial to humanity.
　

So, what will be the best living situation of humanity?

The core in short is : walk on the way of the Greatest Creator.

And WHO is going to represent this invisible imaginary Greatest Creator?

You can't point to this imaginary entity. You have an empty label of "Greatest Creator" that has no meaningful definition.

Build a “noninterference� government, promoting freedom in politics, economy,culture, thinking and spiritual pursuit.

Then, the future of humanity will be like the following:

If that's where you need to start, then that's where you should start. And there should be no need for you to mention any "Greatest Creator" because you're supposed to allow people the freedom to pursue that on their own. This means that you need to allow secularists to embrace a secular worldview as well. Otherwise you are dictating to secularists that they must become spiritualists.

1. All religions will gradually disappear; humans revere the same and the only Greatest Creator.

And who's going to define what this so-called Greatest Creator stands for?

Are secularists going to be forced to "revere" this imaginary ill-defined concept that cannot be shown to even exist? And what would it mean if they did? Again, who's going to define what this so-called Greatest Creator stands for or expects of humans?

2. Wars between nations will no longer take place; no country will have a military force.

Unfortunately not all wars are fought over religious disagreements. But nice try.

3. The leaders of each country are elected by its people; election is no longer manipulated by the minority.??Each leader serves no longer than two terms.

Who says that each leader serves no longer than two terms?

Are you claiming that your "Greatest Creator" made this rule?

4. The population will no longer be increasing unlimitedly; the growthof population will be controlled.

Who's going to mandate birth control?

And please show where this comes from a so-called "Greatest Creator".

If the creator didn't want us to procreate at our current rate why didn't he take that into consideration when he designed us?

5. Power and wealth are no longer the most important life goals of humans.

Many (if not most) humans have no interest in power and wealth. However, obviously the people who are wealthy and powerful do have in interest in these things and that's why they have obtained those positions.

And by the way, how does just telling people to believe in a "Greatest Creator" cause people to no longer seek power and wealth?

6.??People will not talk about how to fight with nature and men; the earth will become a place where all life beings coexist harmoniously.

All because you told them that they must believe in a "Greatest Creator" that you can't even point to or produce evidence that such a thing even exists?

7.??Terrorist activities are going to disappear.

Nice dream.

Unfortunately many terrorists currently commit their terrorist acts in the name of what they believe to be the "Greatest Creator". So when you reinforce their belief in a Greatest Creator you are doing nothing more than encouraging their beliefs.

8. Crimes will be decreasing year by year.

From what I have heard most people who are in jail are already religious. In fact, I've heard that atheists are vastly unrepresented in jails by percentage of population. I'm not sure if that's true, but I have heard atheists make this claim.

9. The care of elders and the education of the youth will become the responsibilities of the whole society, which are no longer the??private affairs individuals or families.

I'm all for that. In fact, if I did raise children I would have definitely home-schooled them.

I was even thinking that if I ever married I might actually adopt children. That way I could raise children without having to contribute to the overpopulation problem.

But in truth, even trying to home-school children is extremely difficult. It's simply not possible, (nor even practical) to try to insulate them from the status quo of social norms.

10. Family life is going to dissolve; relationship of men and women is going to show diverse forms.

I have no clue what you have in mind here so I can't comment on this.

11. Scientists and artists will be respected by the general.

Well, you'd certainly have that in a secular world to be sure.

12. Manual labour is not regarded as a less decent job.

Hopeful manual labor will be replaced by robots so that no one needs to do it anymore.

Unless of course, they want to because they enjoy doing it. There are many things I'd rather do myself even if a robot could do it.

13. A common Bill of Rights will be made; journalists will have greater freedom, the force of darkness in some regions will be curbed.

All because people are believing in the existence of a Greatest Creator that you cannot point to, show exists, or even provide any means verifying or showing what this Greatest Creator might want or expect from people?

Nice dream. But other than being a dream does it have any practical value?

14. A lazy person will be regarded as miserable and incompetent; a parasite-like lifestyle will be seen as a pity.

What about disabled people, and people who have medical problems? Some people who may appear to be lazy may actually have serious medical problems for which we don't currently have a cure.

Should we belittle and degrade these people?

I think you need to be very careful when you start judging people without fully understanding what might be causing their behavior.

15. Humans will be able to make new form of Life; intelligent robots will come into being, Sahara will be returning to green again.

Intelligent robots are on the way already. And they would be in a purely secular world. So I'm not sure what a belief in a "Greatest Creator" has to do with this.

16. A large number of supermen will appear: they discover the secret of brain,and find the channel to communicate with the Greatest Creator, and therefore they know the secret of time and space, the cause and effect relationship of lives transiting in different time and space, the secret of thinking, the power of mind, and the road towards higher level life space.These supermen will bring the material and spiritual life of humanity to a brand new level.

I have no clue what you mean by these "supermen". Where did you come up with that fantasy?

I have good reasons to believe that mankind will eventually figure out how human brains work and how consciousness arises naturally. Especially as they continue to build intelligent robots.

But this will most likely be done on a secular level with no need to invoke any "Greatest Creator" ideas.

17. There will not be nature disasters any more, earthquakes, floods, diseases will all vanish.

And from whence did you obtain this "prophecy"?

I don't see where humans believing in a Greatest Creator is going to change the nature of the universe.

As I've already pointed out, these natural disasters have natural causes. For them to suddenly stop would require a massive change in the laws of physics. I really see no reason to think that the physics of our world is going to change just because we have chosen to believe in a "Greatest Creator" that cannot be shown to be anything more than a fantasy.

18. Earth becomes a blessed paradise, which will be serene and harmonious, prosperous and vibrant; cranes are flying in the sky. People are healthy and have a long life; everyone live in peace and enjoy their job.

It's a nice fantasy to be sure.

But where is your evidence that any of this is anything more than fantasy?

In conclusion, human beings will enter an unprecedented, highly developed and civilized era, an era with happiness, abundance and freedom. Everyone will transform to a celestial at the end. We will understand all secrets by that time, each moment of our life will be extremely joyful, we will meet our family and friends who have passed away, a brilliant new life will start to unfold.

However, there is a prerequisite, which is we must walk on the way of the Greatest Creator, if we ignore it, everything will be developing in the opposite direction.

And your entire SERMON, has been just that. A bunch of claims that have absolutely no evidence to back them up. You haven't even provided your source of all this prophecy.

Where does your Greatest Creator say that leaders of nations should only serve to two-year terms as you had previously suggested they should?

In fact, why would your Greatest Creator even want there to be nations at all? Shouldn't the Greatest Creator want there to be only ONE world leader?

And if that world leader is any good, why limit that leader to only a two-year term?

If the leader is any good, why not be appointed for LIFE?

And if the leader isn't any good, then how is your system any better than what we already have?

[ivysunday]

[Replying to post 22 by Divine Insight]

You get so many questions. But we don't like debating. If you want answers, you can read more of the Chanyuan corpus and Xuefeng Corpus.
Chanyuan celestials are resonant with all the values, if everyone can resonate with Chanyuan values, the said fatasy will come true.
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The Differences between Traditional Family and Chanyuan Family





Xue Feng


Someone may say, "Chanyuan always proclaims to break from the family, yet it is building a new family by itself --Chanyuan".

This is a misunderstanding to Lifechanyuan, a symbol of not knowing the essence of Lifechanyuan at all.

Rice wine, red wine and Maotai all are wine but different in nature. Apricot tree, peach tree and willow all are trees but different in nature. Ant, elephant and people are life but different in nature. Ignorant people, sage and celestial all are human being but different in nature The Democratic Party, Republican Party and Communist Party all are political parties but different in nature, . Buddhism, Christian and Islam all are religions but different in nature.

Traditional family and Chanyuan family are families but different in nature.


The differences between traditional family and Chanyuan family:


Traditional family

Center on kindreds and parents

Affinity-disaffinity classify by blood relationship

Limited number of people

Have parents, children and marriage

Can't make the planet into one family

Results of private ownership

Inevitably result in private ownership

Result in a series of competition and suffering

Family member can't enjoy freedom





Chanyuan family

Center on the Greatest Creator

Affinity-disaffinity classify by the resonant frequency with the Greatest Creator's Tao

Unlimited number of people

No parents, children and marriage

Can make the planet into one family

Results of non-ownership

Inevitable result in non-ownership

Eliminate the competition and lessen the suffering to the maximum

Family member can enjoy the maximum freedom







It can be seen from the chart that there are a world of differences between traditional family and Chanyuan family, not the same at all.

Life must belong to something, otherwise it can not exist. Life body must have a home, otherwise it is called ghost.

There are all kinds of home modes in the universe; some people regard traditional family as their home; some people regard workplace as their home; some people regard religious group as their home; some people regard their country as home; some people regard the universe as their home; and the Lifechanyuan regard the Greatest Creator's Tao as their home.

Apparently, there seems no difference between the traditional family and Chanyuan family; both of them are family modes; but they vary in contents and forms. That is to say they are similar in form, vary in contents. Going to America from North Korea, getting into Islam from Buddhism, taking part in the Communist Party from the Republican Party, getting into the Thousand-year World from the Mortal World; although all of them are abandoning one and adapting another, their nature and contents are totally different.

Leaving the traditional family and getting into the Chanyuan family, which seems to be going to a family from another, but the contents of life are totally different. Chanyuan family can do. and even can do a lots of things that the traditional family is not able to do.

Getting into Lifechanyuan family from the traditional family is like getting into the thousand-year world from the Mortal World; everything is different.


Frogs whether live in wells, ponds, rivers, lakes and seas, they all live in water; but the value and the significance of their life are totally different.

We can feel the differences between living in the single-story building of 10 square meters, storied houses of 100 square meters and villa of 1000 square meters. Living in traditional family is like living in a single-story building of 10 square meters; living in Lifechanyuan family is like living in the villa of 1000 square meters. It is not the same as you walk out a single-story building of 10 square meters to another.

It is difficult for one to imagine what Lifechanyuan family is if he has never been there. How can you make judgments on Lifechanyuan family if you have never been there and experienced its life style? And if you insist in making comments, it will be like the tale of the blind men describing an elephant. To a person who has never eaten cactus, no matter how you describe its taste and the way to eat it, it is useless, unless you are the cactus or the Greatest Creator.

There aren't walls in Lifechanyuan family. To those who said there are walls in family, the walls are built by themselves and are the projections of their own thinking and consciousness.

To people have fully achieved Tao, it makes no difference where he lives or with whom he lives. But to people who is cultivating Tao and holding Tao, the collective self-refinement is very important. I have explained this theory thoroughly in Life Is A Journey. It is very easy to understand that, only the combination of an oxygen atom and two hydrogen atoms can constitute a water molecule; only the unite of an adult female and an adult male can make reproduction.

Sep 20th, 2007

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A Contrast Between the View of Love in Human World

and the View of Love in Thousand-Year World



Xuefeng







Human World: I have affection for you, and you must also have affection for me; I love you and you must also love me.
The Thousand-Year World: I have affection for you, but you need not have affection for me; I love you but you need not love me.



Human World: I have affection and love for you, you must be responsible for my affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: I have affection and love for you, you need not be responsible for my affection and love.



Human World: Lovers will be united in marriage and family.

The Thousand-Year World: Lovers need not be united in marriage and family.



Human World: I love only you.

The Thousand-Year World: I love all people.



Human World: I have affection only for you.

The Thousand-Year World: I have affection for all people.



Human World: There are reasons and conditions for affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: There are no reasons and conditions for affection and love.



Human World: You can only love me.

The Thousand-Year World: You must love all people.



Human World: Affection and love is selfish.

The Thousand-Year World: Affection and love is unselfish.



Human World: The sole and attentive constant love is most respectable.

The Thousand-Year World: The sole and attentive constant love is most harmful to the collective and society.



Human World: The couple who have affection and love for each other own each other.

The Thousand-Year World: The couple who have affection and love for each other do not own each other.



Human World: The couple who have affection and love for each other keep company with each other all their life.

The Thousand-Year World: The couple who have affection and love for each other can part with each other any time.



Human World: One may worry that his or her love may be usurped by other people.

The Thousand-Year World: One need not have any worry about love.



Human World: I will protect my affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: I will release my affection and love.



Human World: One must pay the cost for affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: Affection and love is natural and one need not pay any cost.



Human World: My affection and love belong to you and your affection and love belong to me.

The Thousand-Year World: There is no affection and love that belongs exclusively to anyone.



Human World: Without your affection and love, I will be overwhelmed with sorrow.

The Thousand-Year World: Everyone has affection and love, and no one will be overwhelmed with sorrow because of affection and love.



Human World: There is jealousy and resentment involved in affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: One will only experience joy and pleasure in affection and love and will not feel jealousy and resentment.



Human World: I feel unhappy to see your affection and love for others.

The Thousand-Year World: I feel happy to see your affection and love for others.



Human World: Affection and love is restricted by morals and customs, otherwise it constitutes the abuse of affection and love.

The Thousand-Year World: Affection and love is itself moral, there is no problem of abuse of affection and love.



Human World: Affection and love is something to be pursued.

The Thousand-Year World: Affection and love is the precious gift endowed by the Greatest Creator, and is the nature of origin.



Human World: Affection and love is the greatest obstacle to achieve the spiritual state of celestials and Buddha.

The Thousand-Year World: Lack of affection and love is the greatest obstacle to achieve the spiritual state of celestials and Buddha.



Human World: Secular affection and love is the principal factor to maintain the harmony and stability of society.

The Thousand-Year World: Secular affection and love is the principal factor that contributes to the plight and afflictions of man and human society.



April 28, 2007

[Divine Insight]

You get so many questions. But we don't like debating. If you want answers, you can read more of the Chanyuan corpus and Xuefeng Corpus.
Chanyuan celestials are resonant with all the values, if everyone can resonate with Chanyuan values, the said fatasy will come true.
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But why should I read more of your religious dogma? You haven't yet shown any reason to believe that your imaginary God even exists.

You also haven't answered any of my questions. Why does your Greatest Creator demand that leaders of nations only have two year terms?

Why do nations even exists in this world if the whole world is supposed to love under one RULE?

Why isn't there just ONE world leader who knows what he or she is doing and why isn't that position for LIFE?

Also, how does this leader become leader? Are they voted in via a free democracy? Or are they somehow appointed by this proposed "Greatest Creator"? Do they then become the absolute dictator of the Greatest Creator's ways?

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I'm not interested in reading your "dictation" of how everyone "must behave" in your totalitarian religious regime.

How are you going to force people to do as you demand?

If I could be the dictator of the world I could turn it into a fairly nice paradise too. If people had to do as I say I would demand that they stop polluting the planet, stop having babies they can't support, stop being greedy, etc, etc, etc.

It would be easy to force people to behave when we have the power of an absolute monarchy where everyone must do as we say. At that point whether or not the world becomes a paradise will depend entirely on what the monarch dictates.

So all you are doing is proposing a totalitarian dictatorship where YOU (or your favorite authoritarian religious regime) become the dictators in the name of an invisible Greatest Creator that can't even be shown to exist.

We already have that in Islam.

They are already doing this proclaiming that if the whole world would just follow their rules the world would be a paradise.

In fact Chrsitianity holds to the same ideal. They too believe that if everyone would simply follow the rules of their religious dogma then life on earth would become like a heavenly paradise. In fact, many Christians even agree with you that their Greatest Creator choreographs natural disasters and diseases too. So they have been preaching in the name of Christianity that if the whole would would simply follow the teachings of their Jesus life on earth would be utopia.

So it's not like you're coming up with anything new.

Your religion is just like all the others. Proclaiming nonsense in the name of an invisible Greatest Creator that cannot even be shown to exist.

So I'm not interested in reading all the things that your religion will dictate to people in the name of an invisible make-believe Greatest Creator that cannot even be shown to exist.

Just provide indisputable evidence that this supposed Greatest Creator actually exists, and also that He, She, or It actually supports your dogma.

So far, neither Christianity or Islam have been able to provide any evidence for their imaginary Greatest Creator. I feel quite certain that your religion is no different in this regard at all.

So either provide compelling evidence that your imaginary invisible Greatest Creator exists, or CONFESS that all you are doing is trying to push a governmental dictatorship off in the name of a make-believe fantasy that cannot be shown to even exist.

At least I'm willing to be HONEST enough to offer purely secular solutions to the problems of humanity. I have the solutions! And science has been giving us the solutions for decades. But no one is interested in implementing them.

So apparently humans aren't interested in saving humanity. They would rather just ignore the problems and just create their own demise. That's the reality of the situation on the ground.

That's the reality of the human species unfortunately.

Sure, there are a few of us who would like to see humanity flourish and go on to do great constructive and productive things in the future. But apparently there aren't enough of us to make that actually happen.

If you need to fool people into acting via a dictatorship set up in the name of an imaginary Greatest Creator, then your cause is already lost. That has already been tried for centuries and has been a proven failure as a method to get humans to behave themselves.

Face reality.

See this Hidden Brain Broadcast: Creating God

[ivysunday]

[Replying to post 24 by Divine Insight]
Can you find the Greatest Creator form below? Are you really curious or you just want to ask questions?
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Where is and how do we Revere the Greatest Creator?




Xuefeng

(Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer)


The Greatest Creator is the most mysterious, most holy, most incredible, and most supreme supernatural entity in existence. But where is the Greatest Creator?

The universe is big beyond our imagination. Our earth universe alone contains three thousand (3,000) great worlds, each of which contains three thousand (3,000) medium worlds, each of those contain three thousand (3,000) small worlds, and this earth universe is just a speck of dust in a much greater universe.

This universe has 20-parallel worlds within 36-dimensional space. Where does the Greatest Creator reside in such a vast universe?

The matter of the Greatest Creator is in the zero world of the 36-dimensional space. And the zero world is the node - the zero point that consists of the 20-parallel worlds, namely the zero point of the geometric XYZ number axis. This zero point connects with the 20-parallel worlds and is the command centre of the universe as our brains and central nervous systems are to our bodies


Everything in the universe is a manifestation of the consciousness of the Greatest Creator, which is Tao. It is like everything created on the earth is a manifestation of human consciousness except for the natural material. The constitutional law is the embodiment of the collective consciousness of all people. It can be said that human consciousness is the constitutional law.

Tao is the spirit of the Greatest Creator and all things run in Tao and are ultimately dominated by it. Therefore, all things are of the spirit of the Greatest Creator. That is, “all things have spirit�.

Thus, we conclude that the matter of the Greatest Creator is in the zero world but the spirit of the Greatest Creator is in all things, just as Chinese President Hu Jintao’s body is in Zhongnanhai in Beijing, but his reach extends throughout China.

Since the matter of the Greatest Creator is in the zero world, then we can never see the true face of the Greatest Creator, because we can never reach the zero world. Since we can never see the true face of the Greatest Creator, then how can we feel the presence of and know the will of the Greatest Creator?

We can know and understand it by the things we hear, see, taste, smell, touch, feel, and experience around us. Since the spirit of the Greatest Creator is in all things throughout the universe, then all things contain the will of the Greatest Creator. We can know and experience the Greatest Creator and learn the will of the Greatest Creator through all things in the universe.

This means that all things are the discourse of the Greatest Creator and all the changes we sense are the monologue of the Greatest Creator within us. From things changing, we can know what the Greatest Creator wants us to do and how we must do it. For instance, a healthy person with a headache is not a normal situation. They are either overstressed by thinking, have high blood pressure or fever, or something similar. The headache would clearly indicate a need to change their daily diet and lifestyle or a normal physiological order would not be maintained. Another example is that when phenomena such as droughts, floods, plagues, earthquakes, and extreme temperatures become frequent occurrences, something is clearly wrong with our production and lifestyle. The Greatest Creator clearly informs us that we need to change our lifestyle or face even greater disasters and catastrophes. It is as if a country or region experiences frequent riots and hunger. That would indicate a problem with the management of the area and that the management mode needs to be changed or it will lead to vicious cycles until the regime is overthrown. It is the same with a family. Frequent quarrels would show that something is wrong with the survival order of the family and it is time to dissolve it. Were this phenomenon to occur in most families around the globe, something would be wrong with the survival mode and lifestyle of the family system and it would need to be broken up or people’s pains and troubles would never end and would lead to self-destruction.

The Greatest Creator is everywhere. I see the Greatest Creator everywhere and all the time from the changing weather, the blooming flowers, the mature fruits, the moving of bee's nests, the bellies of pregnant women, the wedding nights, the gurgling water, and the texture of shells from my own eyes, witnessing the transformations through time. As long as we open our spiritual perception, we can see the Greatest Creator everywhere and at anytime.

This leads to an appalling question, how can we revere the Greatest Creator? Reverence of the Greatest Creator is not a concept that can be taken as a pet phrase. We need to revere the Greatest Creator in our daily words and deeds in a concrete manner.



Revering all things is to revere the Greatest Creator! When I am faced with a stem of grass, an insect, a thing, or a person, I can see the Greatest Creator looking right back at me through it or him or her. If I react correctly, I will go to heaven, but if I react incorrectly, I will go to hell.
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From this, I find a law. If a person shows their sincere, kind, beautiful, loving, faithful, and honest consciousness to all things, they will develop to betterment and go to heaven, if not, they will have ugliness and go to hell.

Readers can decide whether my conclusion above is true or not, but I do not believe that you will come up with any other conclusion.

[Divine Insight]

Can you find the Greatest Creator form below? Are you really curious or you just want to ask questions?

I'm not "desperately" looking for a Greatest Creator. If any credible evidence can be shown for one I'm certainly open to looking at that.

Where is and how do we Revere the Greatest Creator?

Absolutely nothing you have stated in your entire post has answered this question.

We can know and understand it by the things we hear, see, taste, smell, touch, feel, and experience around us. Since the spirit of the Greatest Creator is in all things throughout the universe, then all things contain the will of the Greatest Creator. We can know and experience the Greatest Creator and learn the will of the Greatest Creator through all things in the universe.

All you are doing here is examining the phenomena of a secular world and assigning those attributes to some imaginary Greatest Creator that you cannot provide any evidence for at all.

Moreover, where in nature does anything suggest that leaders of nations should only rule for 2 years before being replaced? In fact, where in nature is there any suggestion that "nations" should even exist at all? Yet you had previously claimed that leaders of nations should have terms limited to only 2 years because you want us to do the will of your "Greatest Creator". But you haven't shown any reason that a Greatest Creator even exists, much less that He, She, It wants humans to be divided up into nations that have rules who only rule for 2 year terms.

The second problem with your claim that by observing nature we can learn something about an imaginary "Greatest Creator" is that you have already revealed your unwarranted and superstitious belief that an imaginary "Greatest Creator" is purposefully choreographing the weather and all natural disasters. But we already know that this superstition is demonstrably false. So in this regard we can clearly see that you are clinging to archaic superstitions that have long since been proven to be false superstitions.

You also appear to completely ignore the fact that if your "Greatest Creator" actually did intentionally choreograph natural disasters that this would make your imaginary "Greatest Creator" the "Greatest Murderer" of all time. You can hardly claim that a Creator who kills innocent women and children by causing heinous natural disasters is benevolent. So you already have a theology that requires a malevolent Creator.

This means that all things are the discourse of the Greatest Creator and all the changes we sense are the monologue of the Greatest Creator within us. From things changing, we can know what the Greatest Creator wants us to do and how we must do it. For instance, a healthy person with a headache is not a normal situation. They are either overstressed by thinking, have high blood pressure or fever, or something similar. The headache would clearly indicate a need to change their daily diet and lifestyle or a normal physiological order would not be maintained

Whoever taught you to believe this has preyed upon your naivete. Often times headaches are caused by physical problems within the brain and a change of behavior or diet won't help. Once again your claim that your "Greatest Creator" is the choreographer of everything requires that you have a malevolent Creator who causes some people to have physical headaches that require surgery to remove internal growths. And prior to the secular science of medicine those people would simply suffer and die through no fault of their own.

In fact, secular medical advances have saved millions of people from unnecessary suffering, injury and death. So your claim that all these things are due simply because someone isn't living in harmony with nature is clearly false. In other words, what you are preaching can be demonstrably shown to be false. Period.

Your belief in these ancient superstitions are causing you to preach falsehoods to other people. Something you would potentially never do if you hadn't fallen for these obvious falsehoods yourself. So in this sense Steven Weinberg's view comes into play.

"Religion is an insult to human dignity. With or without it you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg.

And here you are as a prime example. You are teaching people demonstrably false superstitions in the name of religion. Teaching people false superstitions is not a good thing to do.

Another example is that when phenomena such as droughts, floods, plagues, earthquakes, and extreme temperatures become frequent occurrences, something is clearly wrong with our production and lifestyle. The Greatest Creator clearly informs us that we need to change our lifestyle or face even greater disasters and catastrophes.

Again this is just a demonstrably false ancient superstition.

Think about this IvySunday,.... These are demonstrably false ancient superstitions.

It is as if a country or region experiences frequent riots and hunger. That would indicate a problem with the management of the area and that the management mode needs to be changed or it will lead to vicious cycles until the regime is overthrown.

This one happens to be TRUE! However, there is no need to bring in a concept of an invisible "Greatest Creator" here. This observation is TRUE in a purely secular world. Poor social management and leadership does indeed result in a poorly managed society. There's no need to point to an invisible imaginary Boogieman for this one.

It is the same with a family. Frequent quarrels would show that something is wrong with the survival order of the family and it is time to dissolve it. Were this phenomenon to occur in most families around the globe, something would be wrong with the survival mode and lifestyle of the family system and it would need to be broken up or people’s pains and troubles would never end and would lead to self-destruction.

Again, this observation in no way points to the existence of an invisible "Greatest Boogieman" being the cause.

The people in this case are causing their own problems. A purely secular worldview explains this perfectly. No need to bring in a concept of an invisible "Greatest Boogieman" as being the cause.

The Greatest Creator is everywhere. I see the Greatest Creator everywhere and all the time from the changing weather, the blooming flowers, the mature fruits, the moving of bee's nests, the bellies of pregnant women, the wedding nights, the gurgling water, and the texture of shells from my own eyes, witnessing the transformations through time. As long as we open our spiritual perception, we can see the Greatest Creator everywhere and at anytime.

You mean that you imagine your "Greatest Creator" through rose-colored highly-biased glasses. You most likely don't see your imagined "Greatest Creator" when you see a grossly deformed baby being born due to genetic defects. You'll no doubt attribute that horrific scene to something else.

So you are selectively creating your in ideal imaginary "Greatest Creator". Only attribute to it things you condone, while blaming anything you don't condone on something else.

You have created a fantasy that you embrace, but cannot provide any evidence for its existence whatsoever.

This leads to an appalling question, how can we revere the Greatest Creator? Reverence of the Greatest Creator is not a concept that can be taken as a pet phrase. We need to revere the Greatest Creator in our daily words and deeds in a concrete manner.

Before we can revere it we need to show that it actually exists. Thus far you have not done this. To the contrary what you have actually done is demonstrate that much of your reasoning for its existence is actually terribly flawed.

Revering all things is to revere the Greatest Creator! When I am faced with a stem of grass, an insect, a thing, or a person, I can see the Greatest Creator looking right back at me through it or him or her. If I react correctly, I will go to heaven, but if I react incorrectly, I will go to hell.

Where is your evidence for the existence of an imagined heaven and hell?

You make assertions but you can't provide any evidence to demonstrate that they are anything more then pure superstition.

Where did you learn about heaven and hell? From nature?

Again, we see innocent people suffering. Is that hell? And if so, then why are innocent people suffering hell?

Your religious claims cannot be shown to have any merit.

From this, I find a law. If a person shows their sincere, kind, beautiful, loving, faithful, and honest consciousness to all things, they will develop to betterment and go to heaven, if not, they will have ugliness and go to hell.

Readers can decide whether my conclusion above is true or not, but I do not believe that you will come up with any other conclusion.

Well, I've just read everything you've said. I have shown where many things you assert are demonstrably false.

You also began your thesis by claiming that we can know this "Greatest Creator" by simply looking around at the world in which we live. But then you start talking about heaven and hell. Where do you get those ideas from nature?

Obviously you have been convinced by ancient religious dogmas as well. Dogmas and doctrines that can easily be shown to be false.

Let's not forget, the man who introduced the concept of heaven and hell also proclaimed that if you merely believe in him you will be able to lay your hands on the sick and they shall recover. Can you do that? No, of course you can't. And so you know that these ancient doctrines do not speak the truth, even though they claim to be speaking truth.

So you have proof that these doctrines are false. Yet you continue to cling to them and preach them anyway in spite of the fact that they are demonstrably false.

Why do you teach other people demonstrably false things? Shouldn't that be considered to be a "wrong" thing to do?

At least secularists are being totally open and honest that all they can report on is what they actually see. They aren't about to claim that some invisible "Greatest Creator" exists when there is absolutely no evidence to back up that claim at all.

You are teaching people that there exists a "Greatest Creator" who choreographs natural disasters. But you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up that claim. In fact, secularists (and even many religious scientists) recognize that natural disasters are a result of natural forces, and are not being choreographed by an imaginary invisible man in the sky.

Face it, what you are preaching is demonstrably false.

[ivysunday]

[Replying to post 26 by Divine Insight]

I find this for you from the Chanyuan Corpus:

Chanyuan celestial is basically innate, not deliberately cultivated, educated and guided. As long as you are Chanyuan celestial, after reading the Chanyuan Corpus and Xuefeng Corpus, you should resonate and cooperate tacitly; and you can immediately sense that this is the home you have been looking for after knowing the scene of the second home. Besides these, You have no more questions and worries. If you have many questions, this proves that you are not ripe crops. If you have a series of ideological puzzles and troubles that can not be solved in life, also prove that you are not ripe crops. If anyone needs help from others, needs constant comfort and encouragement from others, needs persuasion, enlightenment and guidance from others over and over again, and needs others to solve a series of problems they face, you are not ripe crops, you're not ripe yet!

Many people always speculate about me in the conventional way of thinking. They think that the purpose of founding Chanyuan is to accomplish a great cause. Some people even say "hegemony". It's really common for the naked eye to speculate on what I do and what I do in the "great cause"? What is the use of "hegemony"? I don't even have enough time to play flirtatious games every day. What do I want to do with the illusory "big business" and "hegemonic business"? Wipe your ass? Want to tie me up in the world and continue to suffer? I don't care about human affairs. As soon as my mission is accomplished, I will pat my butt and leave you alone.

As for the creation of the Lifechanyuan Era for mankind, it is only a way and method to guide the ripe crops to the granary of heaven. It is only a by-product, not my mission.

As for the implementation of the unification of all thoughts and all beliefs into the Greatest Creator’s will and all religions into one uniform belief system,it is only telling the Chanyuan celestial what is heavenly kingdom is. It is not that I have to work hard to achieve it, so I don't carry any burdens on my back!

As for the fact that Lifechanyuan is the last course for human beings, it's just my mercy to point out the maze for the people who have tacit understanding. Whether people want to read the last course or not, it's none of my business.

So, don't discuss with me, debate with me, argue with me, let alone ask me to help you solve any problems and troubles. Don't even have time for flirting for a long time. Who would like to spend time, energy to deal with the wretched business of the dead.

Again, I'm here to harvest ripe crops, not to do anything else.

Heart get linked need only a little reminder, heart which are not linked, even if you strike on their head, they will not be aware, will not understand. No matter how the stone is carved, it will not become a diamond.

[Divine Insight]

I find this for you from the Chanyuan Corpus:

You have wasted your time, and mine.

There is nothing in anything you've posted that provides evidence for anything other than absolute nonsense.

Moreover, your claims have already been demonstrated to be false.

So all you are doing is wasting everyone's time including your own.

[ivysunday]

[Replying to post 28 by Divine Insight]


What is time, what is space, what is real, what is illusion?
What is life, what is LIFE. For me, life is a game. Maybe you are wasting your time, for me, i am enjoying it. Others might see these articles. There must be someone resonate with it.

Your telegnosis is blunted, so you cannot feel the existence of the Greatest Creator. When you see the beautiful flowers, you take it for granted, you think it is just naturally, all things are evoluted from single-celled organisms .

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The Dialectical Relationship between Reality and Illusion


Xuefeng
(Translated by Transn and Edited by Kaer)



Reality is real in name only; illusions are illusory in name only.

Reality is illusory and material; illusions are real and non-material.

The material world is the presentation of the nonmaterial world; the nonmaterial world is the foundation of the material world.

Reality is like a dream, an illusion, a bubble, and a shadow; “As dew and lightning, thus should you meditate upon them.� Every illusion is real and true, is where the real spirit and soul dwell, and where the great universe is.

Consciousness is illusory but reality is the reflection and projection of consciousness; the consciousness determines the state of LIFE’s existence.

Wishes are illusory, yet they lead to reality; ideals are illusory, yet they accomplish life’s reality.

Visualized prospects are illusory, but according to the principle of visualized thinking, it is they that determine the future.

Love is illusory, but it can inject huge spirit and soul energy into people.

Heaven is illusory, but we all want to go there; as long as we dream of heaven, we will be able to overcome the hardships of life’s journeys and lead optimistic and positive lives.

Dreams are illusory, but when we are in dream worlds, the illusions look very real.

We think of our day to day lives as being real because everything in them seems very real and true, but what is the difference between the truth of reality and the truth of dreams? One day, when we finally leave this real world and wake up in another “illusory world�, we will find out that life is only a dream, an illusion!

What are illusions; what is reality? The bygone is like mist and smoke, like a dream or a fantasy; the future truth is illusory and looming. “To walk slowly or quickly, there are many roads to take in life; to take with good means or bad, in the end it is all empty.� “The wilderness where foxes sleep and hares walk was once a dancehall; the bleak and desolate field where flowers and grass grow was once a battlefield.� The bygone realness now becomes illusory and the illusion of the future will evolve into reality. Reality comes from illusions and will return to illusions; illusions originate from truth and will become reality.

Everything is but a game; only the soul is true; reality is a game.

Those who obsess with reality and are trapped in it are confused; those who take delight and fun in it are awakened; it makes no sense to try to hold on to the reality of a dream.

The real life is to play the games; the contents of them are determined by illusory consciousnesses; illusory consciousnesses are determined by souls; souls are real but nature is life and a characteristic of structure; structure determines nature.

Therefore, the nonmaterial structure of LIFE is ultimately, absolutely real, however reality and illusion are dialectical.

Real structures give rise to illusory consciousnesses; illusory consciousnesses in turn produce real structures; therefore, our top priority should be to concentrate our efforts on the illusory consciousness of life; the type of illusory consciousness decides the future reality of LIFE; illusions become realities and realities become unreal.

If you have a beast’s illusory consciousness, then you will eventually live in a beast’s reality; if you have a Celestial being’s illusory consciousness, then you will eventually live in the celestial world.

Once you understand the dialectical relationship between reality and illusions, you should not be lost in reality, consume your time and energy on things there, cling to and worry about them, seize, possess, compete for, or persist after them. You should take reality as a stage in a game and play it to its fullest. As long as you get happiness, joy, freedom, and blessing, then your life is successful, wise, and full.

To own nothing is to have everything. Not to act is to act. Hold fast to illusions and you can have reality. Having reality is after all, an illusion.

Life is a journey. The more things that you possess in reality, the more misery you will have and the more pathetic you will become because your life will all be a tragedy. The more illusory things that you possess, the happier and more affluent you will be because your life will ultimately become a comedy.

October 5, 2017

[Divine Insight]

Your telegnosis is blunted

In your worldview how could that be possible?

According to you I was created by the "Greatest Creator", therefore I cannot be flawed. If I'm flawed it can only be because the "Greatest Creator" isn't so great after all.

Only in a secular world can anyone be flawed.

So the very moment you accuse anyone of having any limitations or flaws you are taking a secularist position.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

If any humans are not "Great" then they could not have been created by a "Greatest Creator". They can only have been created by a flawed inept creator.

For me, life is a game.

I can see that. Are you going to confess this to the UN in your letter?

They might actually get a kick out of your letter once they know that you are just playing games with them.