Indian Guru v Galilean Guru

[Furrowed Brow]

Are the reports of miracles of the Indian Guru Åšri Sathya Sai Baba more reliable, less reliable, equally reliable as the reported miracles of the Galilean Guru Jesus?

Miracles of Sathya Sai Baba and Miracles of Jesus

[notachance]

Are the reports of miracles of the Indian Guru Åšri Sathya Sai Baba more reliable, less reliable, equally reliable as the reported miracles of the Galilean Guru Jesus?

Miracles of Sathya Sai Baba and Miracles of Jesus

Clearly the miracles of Sai Baba are more reliable. We have the testimony of thousands of contemporary eyewitnesses.

For Jesus, nobody who ever met Jesus EVER mentioned miracles.

Nobody who ever met anybody who ever met Jesus EVER mentioned miracles.

Nobody who ever met anybody who ever met anybody who met Jesus EVER mentioned miracles.

People started writing about miracles ELEVEN generations after Jesus was dead.

That is to say that the first person to certifiably write on paper that Jesus could do miracles was the great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, great, grandson of somebody who would have been alive when Jesus died.

Need some sources there bro.

"Bro", the source is linked in the OP. There literally are PHOTOGRAPHS of Sai Baba performing miracles!

There are literally thousands of people alive today who swear they saw Sai Baba perform miracles.

Here are a few more links. Please read them. They are from people who ACTUALLY MET the person they claim performed miracles, unlike some anonymous 325 AD scribes I could mention.

http://www.saibaba.ws/miracles/manofmiracles.htm

http://living.oneindia.in/yoga-spiritua ... 20210.html

http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/bangal ... -eyes.html

That last one has VIDEO FOOTAGE of a miracle.

Do you have any video footage of Jesus walking on water? Didn't think so.

[forumwarrior]

That last one has VIDEO FOOTAGE of a miracle.

Do you have any video footage of Jesus walking on water? Didn't think so.

bro how did you open the videos? i cant figure it out. i too would like to witness these "miracles."

[forumwarrior]

i found one.

[youtube][/youtube]

i know im convinced.

[notachance]

i found one.

[youtube][/youtube]

i know im convinced.

So, let me understand how your mind works.

Before you saw this video exposing Sai Baba as a fraud, you believed he had supernatural powers, and it wasn't until you saw this video that you stopped believing in it?

Is that how your mind works?

Do you believe ALL SUPERNATURAL CLAIMS until you see evidence that they are just tricks?

If I tell you "My great grandfather could turn water into wine" do you believe me immediately, and then only stop believing if you receive positive evidence that actually it's not true that he could do that?

OR

Is your default position one of DISBELIEF in supernatural claims, and then you start believing in a supernatural claim only if you receive solid positive evidence for it?

[forumwarrior]

you could tell me that your grandfather turned water into wine to entertain a group of three legged aliens from the 27th galactic nebula. i believe anything is possible.

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People started writing about miracles ELEVEN generations after Jesus was dead.

I am wondering, why should I believe that?

[Woland]

i found one.

[youtube][/youtube]

i know im convinced.

Oh but you don't understand, see.

Sai Baba knew that he was being filmed so he let some people (unfaithful wretches who prove their sinful rejection of Sai Baba by not believing him and his followers) think that he materialized the medal by purely natural means, while in fact it was real magic.

You have to have faith in Sai Baba. Use your free will to believe his claims.

Tons of people claim that they saw him perform all sorts of miracles.

We have their testimony.

Of course, their actual personal testimonies have to be seen as being much less reliable than what religious desert-dwellers from thousands of years ago claimed that others saw.

Naturally.

-Woland

[forumwarrior]

Oh but you don't understand, see.

Sai Baba knew that he was being filmed so he let some people (unfaithful wretches who prove their sinful rejection of Sai Baba by not believing him and his followers) think that he materialized the medal by purely natural means, while in fact it was real magic.

You have to have faith in Sai Baba. Use your free will to believe his claims.

Tons of people claim that they saw him perform all sorts of miracles.

We have their testimony.

Of course, their actual personal testimonies have to be seen as being much less reliable than what religious desert-dwellers from thousands of years ago claimed that others saw.

Naturally.

-Woland

you know i had to put on my sherlock holmes junior detective hat for this one. and after a thorough investigation, i believe that i detect a small hint of sarcasm here. but dont worry my man. sarcasm is only inflammatory and uncivil when i use it.

but what are you trying to say there brother woland? that christianity is just as silly as this "guru?" i think id beg to differ, but i need to be sure about exactly what youre saying first.

[notachance]

People started writing about miracles ELEVEN generations after Jesus was dead.

I am wondering, why should I believe that?

Because that's what empirical evidence indicates

[notachance]

you could tell me that your grandfather turned water into wine to entertain a group of three legged aliens from the 27th galactic nebula. i believe anything is possible.

Ok, so you agree that since anything is possible, then Jesus turning water into wine is just as possible as my grandfather turning water into wine to entertain a group of three legged aliens from the 27th galactic nebula.

As long as we agree that those two things are equally possible, and that believing one is no more sensical or nonsensical than the other, then it's ok.

This incidentally would also mean that it's equally possible that Sai Baba is a true miracle worker as it is that Jesus was. Which was exactly the point of the OP.

I am glad you've changed your mind and gone from calling Sai Baba a fraud to understanding that anything is possible, including that he is a true miracle worker.

Anything is possible. Including that Muslims go to heaven and Christians go to hell. Had you thought of that?