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This is a simple answer. He was bored. (really)
Would an Omnipotent being have a Need/Want to do ANYTHING?
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Re: Would an Omnipotent being have a Need/Want to do ANYTHIN
Post #13Who says? You? GOD wants lots of things because HE is a Living GOD, not conforming to your narrow sohpist understanding...Master Spade wrote: Be honest, and think about that.
IF there were this "Perfect" being, it would Want NOTHING. It would Need NOTHING.
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peace, Ted
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
Re: Would an Omnipotent being have a Need/Want to do ANYTHIN
Post #14Is your god infinite? Is it uncaused? Is it all knowing? What then is it that it could possibly need? Or is your god just a figment of your imagination and as such can experience the needs and desires that your imagination can experience?ttruscott wrote:Who says? You? GOD wants lots of things because HE is a Living GOD, not conforming to your narrow sohpist understanding...Master Spade wrote: Be honest, and think about that.
IF there were this "Perfect" being, it would Want NOTHING. It would Need NOTHING.
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peace, Ted
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Re: Would an Omnipotent being have a Need/Want to do ANYTHIN
Post #16You seem to forget that GOD is Love...10CC wrote:
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Is your god infinite? Is it uncaused? Is it all knowing? What then is it that it could possibly need?
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Three living self aware intellectual beings who share a communion bond of love and holiness who also have a full knowledge of the reality of all the possibilities of a reality THEY might create is said NOT TO NEED anything.
Then, IF these three that exist as One True Living GOD and who understand the great effect life would have upon created spirits who could share THEIR loving communion with THEM and who understand the great joy these created spirits could potentially bask in for eternity, therefore chose, for the sake of the (future) created ones, to create them in THEIR image, able to love and to make true free will decisions, how could THEY be said to be operating or motivated by a need ?? unless one wants to arbitrarily claim any motivation is need based, which then must be proven.
IF THEIR love is perfect, when it is shared with a few billion billion others is it more perfect? Does that change THEM in any way, fulfill THEM somehow? I don't think so... if the love the creature experiences is perfect, then love is increased in reality, not from self need but because it is good for the created spirit.
Peace, Ted
PCE Theology as I see it...
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.
This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.
Re: Would an Omnipotent being have a Need/Want to do ANYTHIN
Post #17Fine, what's your argument against God that is otherwise perfect, except for its need of love from humans?Master Spade wrote: IF there were this "Perfect" being, it would Want NOTHING. It would Need NOTHING. Why? Because it would Lack NOTHING! It would just.....Be. It would Just...Exist.
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My answer is the same as the scientific humanist's answer regarding the universe. It just is. Adonai has said, "I AM THAT I AM". No need no want. He just is and what He has created is what He has created. He will bless whom He will bless and curse whom He will curse. I am blessed in that He has provided me with instructions on how I am to live. Dayenu.
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All you are saying here is that you are determined to believe in your religion whether it makes any sense or not. That's all.bluethread wrote: My answer is the same as the scientific humanist's answer regarding the universe. It just is. Adonai has said, "I AM THAT I AM". No need no want. He just is and what He has created is what He has created. He will bless whom He will bless and curse whom He will curse. I am blessed in that He has provided me with instructions on how I am to live. Dayenu.
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