Leave us alone

[Youkilledkenny]

Big proponent here of 'live and let live'. So long as your actions don't directly impact me & my family in a negative way, I don't much care how you live your life.
If you want to talk to burning bushes, have at it.
If you want to shop only on Sunday, go for it.
Mary and Beth that lives on the other side of the country wants to get married? Better you than me so enjoy.
Want to smoke 172 packs of cigs a day? Gross but ok - just don't blow the smoke on me.
If you wasn't to stand on your roof on one leg in a purple dress waiting for the cashmul equinox knock yourself out.
Why is it that Christians find the need to make society that we all share (muslim, jew, agnostic, atheists, satanists, scientologists, worshippers of the blood diamond - whatever) try to fit their paradigm?
Is it arrogance in thinking your way is the only right way?
Are you trying to make the world a 'better place'?
Do you just like forcing your beliefs on others thinking it will but you into God's good graces and eventually heaven?
Or are you hiding behind a belief in order to be a jerk?

Why can't you, the Christian, live and answer for your life while allowing everyone else to do the same?
What makes your life and belief so special that it supersedes everyone else's?

[Youkilledkenny]

[Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness]

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses we don'the try to change the world through politics, we don't vote. We preach to people because that is part of our worship.

So long as the preaching stops when asked, I don't think most people would have any issue with this. Curious: Why don't JWs vote?

[Youkilledkenny]

[Replying to post 9 by shnarkle]

The Christians that are doing this are doing it because they believe that they have a duty to notify others that their eternal reward is at stake.

Understood, But surely there are better means to do this, no? Seems to me (at least the Christian friends I have) would rather lead by example than by forcing legislation on others.

Of course they're not the only ones doing this either.

Absolutely true.

[bluethread]

Seems to me (at least the Christian friends I have) would rather lead by example than by forcing legislation on others.

So, only non-Christians are allowed to force legislation on others?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 6 by JehovahsWitness]

As one of Jehovah's Witnesses we don'the try to change the world through politics, we don't vote. We preach to people because that is part of our worship.

So long as the preaching stops when asked, I don't think most people would have any issue with this. Curious: Why don't JWs vote?

We don't vote because for us that would violate the principle of being politically neutral, which we believe is necessary for a Christian. For us we pledge allegiance to God's Kingdom and so do not take part in politics.

We believe religion has no place on politics and should remain completely separate. We try and help the community by means of our outreach work.


Further Reading
https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesse ... eutrality/

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 14 by JehovahsWitness]



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If you want to be politically neutral, keep your religion OUT of your politics, and then you can VOTE.Political apathy is NOT conducive to a good democracy[/center]

We believe religion has no place on politics and should remain completely separate.

I believe that too.. but I do my civic duty.
If I lived in the United States, for example, it would have been ONE LESS VOTE for Trump. Each and every vote COUNTS.

You can keep your religious ideas OUT of civics.
A whole lot of honest people do.

But.. some people prefer to do as their told. and to NOT decide their future.
I would find it unreasonable if those people were ever to complain about the civic leaders others vote in.

IF JW are NOT a part of my society.. maybe they shouldn't pay taxes or drink tap water, either. This non-voting business just doesn't make any SENSE.

And as far as I'm concerned, it was that kind of passive thinking that got the world way too much of DONALD TRUMP.. So, no thanks for that JWs !!

More than half the whole WORLD does not appreciate your careless gesture.

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 13 by bluethread]

Seems to me (at least the Christian friends I have) would rather lead by example than by forcing legislation on others.

So, only non-Christians are allowed to force legislation on others?

I'd be ok with that .....


LOL

No.
Just joking.

[Bust Nak]

So, only non-Christians are allowed to force legislation on others?

No, only morally good legislation should be forced onto others, who is doing the forcing is irrelevant. For example, Christians are welcomed to (even encouraged to) force cake makers to make gay wedding cakes.

[Blastcat]

[Replying to post 17 by Bust Nak]



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What's good for God might not be good for us[/center]

So, only non-Christians are allowed to force legislation on others?

No, only morally good legislation should be forced onto others, who is doing the forcing is irrelevant. For example, Christians are welcomed to (even encouraged to) force cake makers to make gay wedding cakes.

We do get forced.
And there ARE bad laws.

Just because a country or a god passes a LAW does NOT make it good.

Lucky for those living in a participatory democracy.. we can VOTE for laws. In a democracy, the VOTER is the boss. People tend to forget that.. the politicians who pass laws work for US and not the other way round.

God works for GOD and nobody else.
So what is good for GOD might not be so great for US.

Do we ever get a say?

[bluethread]

So, only non-Christians are allowed to force legislation on others?

No, only morally good legislation should be forced onto others, who is doing the forcing is irrelevant. For example, Christians are welcomed to (even encouraged to) force cake makers to make gay wedding cakes.

What determines what is morally good? As far as I am concerned, the federal government should not require cake makers to make any kind of cake, and many non-Christian libertarians agree with me. So, if we are using the "morally good" standard, Christians are not welcome to force cake makers to make "gay wedding cakes" (whatever they are).

[bluethread]

Lucky for those living in a participatory democracy.. we can VOTE for laws. In a democracy, the VOTER is the boss. People tend to forget that.. the politicians who pass laws work for US and not the other way round.

Yes, in these United States, the citizens can amend the constitution, nullify the first amendment and enact sharia law. That is how participatory democracy works. Remember, Hitler was democratically elected.