Does God cause changes to occur in the course of human lives

[Zzyzx]

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Does God cause changes to occur in the course of human lives?

If yes, what verifiable evidence can be cited to show God’s involvement?

If yes, is it not tampering with / interfering with the supposed ‘free will’ to manipulate a person or alter their circumstances to influence outcomes?

If no, what is the purpose of praying for change?

[Tcg]

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It is possible to verify everything in the bible by speaking to a reliable eyewitness of the events.

Okay, WHO are the reliable eyewitnesses of the events:

God.

Thanks for asking.

JW

That's only one. Your claim refers to eye witnesses plural.


Given the fact that God has grown mute over the last 2,000 years, he isn't much help any way.


Who are the other eyewitnesses you referred to but failed to mention? They may be of more help than a mute god.





Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 11 by Tcg]

My bad....

God the Creator and all the millions of angels that also would have witneseed all the biblical events.

JW

[Zzyzx]

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It is possible to verify everything in the bible by speaking to a reliable eyewitness of the events.

Okay, WHO are the reliable eyewitnesses of the events:

God.

Thanks for asking.

Will your 'witness' provide answers in this thread in answer to questions about the claimed incidents? (In forms other than the imaginary)

God the Creator and all the millions of angels that also would have witneseed all the biblical events.

Are these imaginary entities or real? If the latter, what is the verifiable evidence of their existence (beyond ancient unverifiable tales in religion-promotional literature)?

[JehovahsWitness]

[Replying to post 13 by Zzyzx]

I do believe you asked for verifiable evidence (which I produced), I see no request in the OP that said evidence be verified. I cannot say if God or the angels will choose to participate in the thread or not, but if they do I'm confident they will be able to answer any further questions you have for them.

I won't deraille the thread with speculations on whether God will join the forum or not as it seemed to me the OP was asking about the implication any interaction on God's part would have on the issue of free will, and I know there are rules about derailling threads.

If yes, what verifiable evidence can be cited to show God’s involvement?

If yes, is it not tampering with / interfering with the supposed ‘free will’ to manipulate a person or alter their circumstances to influence outcomes?

JW

[Zzyzx]

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I do believe you asked for verifiable evidence (which I produced), I see no request in the OP that said evidence be verified.

Nice dodge.

I ask that evidence be verified as being truthful and accurate.

[William]

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Does God cause changes to occur in the course of human lives?

Yes, except wherein anyone considers my idea of GOD not to fit their criteria of what a GOD is/should be

If yes, what verifiable evidence can be cited to show God’s involvement?

That depends upon who is asking and what their criteria is in relation to 'what a GOD is/should be.

If yes, is it not tampering with / interfering with the supposed ‘free will’ to manipulate a person or alter their circumstances to influence outcomes?

If someone willfully asks for any entity to step in and help them with/through their experience of life on earth and the entity obliges then no tampering with / interfering with the will has occurred.

If no, what is the purpose of praying for change?

If someone willfully asks for any entity to step in and help them with/through their experience of life on earth and the entity obliges then the purpose is rendered in the response.

[Zzyzx]

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If someone willfully asks for any entity to step in and help them with/through their experience of life on earth and the entity obliges then no tampering with / interfering with the will has occurred.

If a celestial entity 'answers someone's prayer' to get a job, other applicants have their life affected without their consent. Same goes for praying for victory in a war.