Surely There Must Be a Better God

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Surely There Must Be a Better God

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This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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Elijah John wrote: [Replying to post 6 by SallyF]

Tare is a picture or a statue. A lifeless idol with multiple eyes that cannot see, ears that cannot hear, and a mouth that cannot speak.. YHVH, by contrast is not to be depicted with any images. The fact that you attempt to do so with your memes in no way diminishers, reduces or contains the Living God YHVH.
Not for nothing EJ, but your Yahweh doesn't even have a picture or a statue.
In fact, the only surviving statues of YHVH, ones depicting it as a man with a goat's head, you would provably deny ARE Yahweh.

So a real statue of an imaginary god, beats no statue of an imaginary god.
In fact, a statue beats no statue, any day.

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Which one of the current suggestions for a better God allows you into heaven?

What are their criteria?
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Re: Surely There Must Be a Better God

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SallyF wrote: ...
Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?...
It depends on what is good. If you think God should not end evil or if you think God should support all kind of evil, like murder, theft and lies, then probably anything else is better than Bible God.
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This is Allah


Allah is a god.


Allah is PRECISELY as real and as imaginary as the Genocidal Jehovah.


Unlike certain Christians, the believers in Allah do not make commandment-breaking images of their god.


Just as the Christian versions of "God" are adaptations of earlier gods and notions, Allah is an updated and improved version of Jehovah.


People HAVE imagined a better god.


Given that certain Christians sweep much of the fantasy and fable concerning the biblical Jehovah under the altar …


They too recognise that their fantasy fiction figure needs improving.


And not a soul EVER demonstrates that the biblical god is anything more that a fictional character in a whole lot of people just makin' stuff up.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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[Replying to post 12 by Wootah]
Which one of the current suggestions for a better God allows you into heaven?
What are their criteria?
Do the criteria for best god include which make the best promises? The god who offers the best afterlife deal must therefore be the best god. An even better god would be one who actually demonstrates that the promises will be honoured and are not really just tempting carrots to lure the eager donkey.
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This is Wohpe.


Wohpe is a Native American concept of God.


Wohpe is equally as imaginary and real as Jehovah.


Her religion has largely been exterminated by Christianity.


In Lakota mythology, Wóȟpe (less correctly spelled "Wohpe") is a spirit of peace, the daughter of Wi and the Moon, Haŋhépi-Wi. She is the wife of the south wind. When she visited the Earth, she gave the Lakota people a pipe as a symbol of peace. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wohpe


When Jesus visited the planet Earth, he told people to hate each other and he is due back at any moment to exterminate most of us.


Wohpe is WAY better than anything the biblical fictions have to offer.
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"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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brunumb wrote:Do the criteria for best god include which make the best promises? The god who offers the best afterlife deal must therefore be the best god.
For comparison, the heaven promised by The Flying Spaghetti Monster is basically an endless frat party, with a ‘beer volcano’ (amongst other things). Likely to be considered ‘best’ by a fairly limited demographic, I would imagine. Apparently, their Hell is almost identical in nature, except for the fact that the beer is stale.
An even better god would be one who actually demonstrates that the promises will be honoured and are not really just tempting carrots to lure the eager donkey.
Sadly, even this god fails the most basic of tests. Shame.

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This is Danu.

Danu is a Celtic expression of God.

Danu is PRECISELY as real and as imaginary as the Genocidal Jehovah.

Believers simply BELIEVE that either of them is anything more than imaginary.

Those of us of Northern European heritage will know that the culture of Danu has largely been exterminated by the insidious hegemony of Christianity, with its human sacrifice to a genocidal god and its pretend blood-drinking ceremonies.

Unfortunately, our ancestors were convinced that this vile, misanthropic religion was their own true religion.

Danu is a FAR more pleasant God concept.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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NO god is EVER shown to be anything other than make-believe.


We have been unable to find a god that is MORE evil than the imaginary Genocidal Jehovah.


But with just a little searching …


We can find MANY gods that are FAR better than the imaginary Genocidal Jehovah.


But ALL it would take to prove this wrong …


Is just the tiniest hint of the beginnings of a shadow of evidence that the biblical version of "God" is anything more than human make-believe.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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Re: Surely There Must Be a Better God

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SallyF wrote: Image


This is the biblical god, Jehovah, imaginatively depicted engaging in yet another act of gross genocide.


Fortunately for humanity, the genocidal Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than imaginary, and the tales of Jehovah are NEVER shown to be anything other than people just makin' stuff up.


Can we imagine a better god than Jehovah …?


Have humans ALREADY imagined better gods than Jehovah …?


(For the purposes of this topic, any of the words above can mean just whatever the respondent CHOOSES them to mean.)


The genocidal, biblical Jehovah is NEVER shown to be anything other than the product of human imaginations.


We have established here that human imaginations have imagined MANY gods that are FAR better than the imaginary Jehovah.
"God" … just whatever humans imagine it to be.

"Scripture" … just whatever humans write it to be.

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