Anyone got proof of God

[nine dog war]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

[Biker]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

You seem to have some type of "proof" in mind. What would you consider "proof"?
You have mentioned "tangible". You have mentioned "logical argument". What is your idea of those two things? Do you understand that God is Spirit?

Biker

[Furrowed Brow]

Do you understand that God is Spirit?

I'm afraid I don't . Can you explain 'God is spirit' without using the words God or spirit?

[Fisherking]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

Can you do the same for atheism? i.e. can you make a logical argument against God that is "tangible"?

[Biker]

Do you understand that God is Spirit?

I'm afraid I don't . Can you explain 'God is spirit' without using the words God or spirit?

Hi Furrowed, haven't had the pleasure of communicating with you lately!
Man, that sure is a strange request with restriction!
You see, without faith it is impossible to please Him, or to know Him, or to relate to Him, as He is metaphysical. I'm sure you are familiar with faith, it's concept.
It is quite vital in life, I am reminded of Churchill during WWII, you could almost see it on him, on behalf of, and in England, Victory!
Faith is the substance (assurance) of things hoped for, the evidence (conviction) of things not seen.
For by it the men of old gained approval.
By faith we understand that the worlds (ages) were prepared by the Word of Him, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.
Why FurrowedBrow I thought you would have known about this?

Biker

[Biker]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

Can you do the same for atheism? i.e. can you make a logical argument against God that is "tangible"?

Fisherking,
Welcome, hope to hear more from you!

Biker

[Furrowed Brow]

You see, without faith it is impossible to please Him, or to know Him, or to relate to Him,

My dictionary defines faith as a complete trust or confidence. So I guess your saying that without a complete trust its is impossible to please, know or relate to that which you have a complete trust in.

OK. I guess I can’t please something that does not exist. But there’s loads of stuff I can know and relate to without trusting they exist. I can understand the basics of black holes, plank units of length and time, Pi, and if I want to get really sceptical I can doubt the whole of reality, yet still relate to it.

I’d accept that with atheism it is not possible to believe in , or accept God. That’s true by definition.

I'm sure you are familiar with faith, it's concept.
It is quite vital in life,

Well not faith in God no. I’ve never been one of the faith. But if you are saying a life long atheist can be familiar with faith, then should I not be able to understand what you mean when you say please, know and relate to God?

I am reminded of Churchill during WWII, you could almost see it on him, on behalf of, and in England, Victory!

Ah. If Churchill had faith, it was that he good get the Americans into the war. Then victory.

Faith is the substance (assurance) of things hoped for, the evidence (conviction) of things not seen.

We are all worms but I do believe I am a glow worm. -Winston Churchill ...

So might you be saying that those with faith are glow worms.

By faith we understand that the worlds (ages) were prepared by the Word of Him, so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible.

Worms with invisible glows then.

Why FurrowedBrow I thought you would have known about this?

I’m working on it

[katiej49]

I have heard all the retohric, the Bible versus etc etc etc

What Im looking for is proof to the hypothesis of God. I would love to see tangible proof or if not at least one logical argument. So far I have not seen nor heard either.

Please note the words "Tangible" and "Logical". If wish to use quotes from the religious texts then please prove the vadility of the source. e.g. If you quote from the Bible book of Luke please provide proof Luke existed and was not completly stark raving mad.

Blessed is the mind too small for doubt for it is easily filled with faith.

blessed is the mind that doubts, for it can lead to faith (my words and my life!)...i am grieving the loss of a friends child today, and am writing now to ease my stress and tension before the funeral home visitation this evening. Logical proof.......the fact that every heart on earth longs for eternity, longs to see dead loved ones again, feels an ache at the beauty in the world (a remembrance of what we were made for...perfection), a longing for rhyme and rhythm (why do kids love dr suess? heck i love dr suess, its soothing) a longing for RIGHT,,,,a miserable feeling of things going wrong... a deep knowing that certain things are "JUST NOT RIGHT"......a deep agony for the loss of a human life (why more so than for the loss of a cats life, and yes i have cried at the loss of my Miss Kitty, although not as much as the loss of my Mom made me cry)......a longing for love, meaning, purpose and acceptance........ALL HUMANS ALIVE have these needs. The logical answer is that it was put within our heart by Someone.....CS Lewis said "if you find within yourself longings this world cant satisfy, perhaps it means we were made for another world".......blessings to all.

[ithinkthereforeiam]

Typical answers talk in circles or God exists because we want to live forever (fear of death) or see dead people. Well, I think people should be able to fly, doesn't mean Superman exists or that I can fly. Just because it gives you a warm fuzzy, doesn't mean it's true. Feelings don't mean god exists, animals have feelings to.

What type of proof? How about the same type of proof that lets me know the Sun exists. I can see it and I can feel it's energy. So, god show yourself to everyone on Earth right now so you can save everyone and let us into your exclusive club called heaven. God? Hello, god?

[katiej49]

Typical answers talk in circles or God exists because we want to live forever (fear of death) or see dead people. Well, I think people should be able to fly, doesn't mean Superman exists or that I can fly. Just because it gives you a warm fuzzy, doesn't mean it's true. Feelings don't mean god exists, animals have feelings to.


did you read my post? my friends child died. the funeral is tomorrow. do you think anyone in this situation feels warm fuzzies? we dont FEEL anything now but pain (and if i feel this bad imagine how the parents feel)......it has zip to do with feelings

What type of proof? How about the same type of proof that lets me know the Sun exists. I can see it and I can feel it's energy. So, god show yourself to everyone on Earth right now so you can save everyone and let us into your exclusive club called heaven. God? Hello, god?

He could. You would have to worship Him then. no excuses. no love relationship. He wants people who worship Him out of love, not cause they must.

[ithinkthereforeiam]

I sorry for your friend's loss, I know exactly how it feels to lose a family member. My brother died several years ago. This seems like the last place you should be hanging out right now.

He could. You would have to worship Him then. no excuses. no love relationship. He wants people who worship Him out of love, not cause they must.

That's a load of crap. God talks plenty about wanting us to fear him in the OT. And he punishes future generations for something their grandparents did.

So far the Sun is holding up better then god. It's getting dark, but I have faith I'll see the Sun tomorrow. And in about a billion years the Sun will bring it's wrath when it goes supernova and destroys us all for our sins