Right now..Lawless Days of Prophecy?

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Right now..Lawless Days of Prophecy?

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International examples of corruption, crime, etc include Nations perceived to be the least corrupt - what conclusions do theological observers come to based upon this amateur observation of evidence?

And more importantly what is the likely response from organised religions to this reality or how much worse before evidence quantifies prophecy?

I have worked a little in the mental health arena some years ago and am aware of the number of confused individuals that believe that they are "Jesus" and seen the organised Christian response to this (medication) so the likelihood of the real "Christ" Identifying himself to any religion in real time would be rather slim.

I personally suspect that saving the Planet from humanities stupidity would be Christs first goal in serving God- "This would require a new form of Government"... if not the solution then I am open to being impressed- are there any other thoughts on another possible methodology for saving the environment for Life that God provided

I see concepts of ownership as being the biggest hurdle - but couldn't find anywhere in the bible where ownership was transferred to the occupants- be it the family of mankind or the other families- all of which are Gods Creations- "Domain over" does not suggest or confer Disposition but rather highlights the difference between Stewardship and Ownership- one of these concepts does not include Disposition...

Come on folk enlighten me- Where are religions going? over and over the same ground year after year? what is new on the horizon- communications have evolved in the last few years- from this we can grow (am I wrong?).

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Adstar wrote:I am seeking to help others. To give them wisdom that saves.
1) Saves from what danger? Can whatever the danger is be shown to be anything more than imaginary?

2) What wisdom is conveyed? How is it different from opinion?
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Adstar wrote:
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Clownboat wrote: I don't know you well enough to believe you somehow have special knowledge.

Adstar wrote: Strange i cannot relate to this sentence. Just how well would you have to know someone to believe they had special knowledge? Like what kind of knowledge about them would make you believe they had special knowledge?

I have never met anyone that I felt had special knowledge from any god. All that I have heard make that claim, seem to suffer from a sort of religious paranoia.

People are just so unwilling to get help when they truly believe they are doing the work of a god.
What kind of Help are you Referring to in your above post. Please be clear I would like to know.

And as for your projection of religious paranoia upon me i find that offensive, and you have made an all covering statement that all people you have talked to who believe they have received a message from God suffer from paranoia. This is a blanket and therefore offensive statement. We all must be mindful to keep our discussions polite mustnt we. :D

As for me i don't see i am in need of any help. I am seeking to help others. To give them wisdom that saves.


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The "help" I was referring to was help for people that suffer from religious paranoia. Would you like to claim that there is no such thing?

I never claimed you suffer from such a condition. Let's not be dishonest now please, the jury is still out.

I have only met a handful of people that claim to have been given a special messages from a god, or are here sent by a god for a specific reason. People that make these claims fit part of the definition of religious paranoia. Thus, why I said these people seem to suffer from some sort of religious paranoia.

Also, they often think people are making references to them when they aren't, and they often feel victimized. Now just because you exhibited both of these things in your last post, does not mean you suffer from religious paranoia, nor does it mean the same thing as me saying, "you suffer from religious paranoia". If the shoe fits, wear it, but I will not put this shoe on for you, nor am I ready to claim you deserve this shoe.

Religious paranoia - Here the patients suffer from a permanent delusion of a primarily religious nature. He for example believes, that he is the messenger of God who has been sent to the world to propagate some religion.
http://www.depression-guide.com/paranoia.htm
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nzlaws wrote:
Come on folk enlighten me- Where are religions going? over and over the same ground year after year? what is new on the horizon- communications have evolved in the last few years- from this we can grow (am I wrong?).
Evidently growth is determined by which direction those shepherding various flocks determines. Perhaps the shepherds are simply most comfortable where they sit?

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nzlaws wrote:And more importantly what is the likely response from organised religions to this reality or how much worse before evidence quantifies prophecy?
Harold Camping who runs family radio in Oakland California reckons the big day is coming this weekend- end of the world..........
Next Monday he might need to seek medical help?
nzlaws wrote:I have worked a little in the mental health arena some years ago and am aware of the number of confused individuals that believe that they are "Jesus" and seen the organised Christian response to this (medication)
Next Monday he might need to seek medical help?
nzlaws wrote:Come on folk enlighten me- Where are religions going? over and over the same ground year after year? what is new on the horizon- communications have evolved in the last few years- from this we can grow (am I wrong?).
Next Monday he might need to seek medical help?

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Frankly wrote:Harold Camping who runs family radio in Oakland California reckons the big day is coming this weekend- end of the world..........
Those who subscribe to this sort of thinking might demonstrate their conviction and sincerity by giving their worldly possessions to a deserving secular charity.
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Zzyzx wrote:.
Frankly wrote:Harold Camping who runs family radio in Oakland California reckons the big day is coming this weekend- end of the world..........
Those who subscribe to this sort of thinking might demonstrate their conviction and sincerity by giving their worldly possessions to a deserving secular charity.
Might I suggest...

The Fletcher Memorial Home.

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Zzyzx wrote:.
Frankly wrote:Harold Camping who runs family radio in Oakland California reckons the big day is coming this weekend- end of the world..........
Those who subscribe to this sort of thinking might demonstrate their conviction and sincerity by giving their worldly possessions to a deserving secular charity.
Fearmongering reaps its rewards I suppose- I would have thought he would have learned from the last time he made this prediction- that he truthfully believes such an event could occur sparing "only" those who believe displays a problem.

I reckon he might need those "meds" though- if only just to enable him to live through the embarrassment again- a "gain" though if folk gave him their worldly goods- certainly he got some media attention -my bet is that there are others more deserving of that attention- ho hum just another day

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