God is not more merciful than most humans.

[DanieltheDragon]

In order for humans to forgive we go through an emotional state and move past the slight.

In order for God to forgive he has to have a ritualistic blood sacrifice involving torture of a pure being to forgive even the slightest of offenses.


How can God be all powerful if he is restricted in his ability to forgive?

How can God be all merciful if there is a sacrifice restriction on his mercy?

Why does God have a lower capacity of forgiveness than humans?

[Justin108]

[Replying to post 155 by postroad]


"Which makes God a liar. "

If this makes God a lier to yu, then why are you here debating?

My guess is to demonstrate that God is a liar... which he seems to be doing successfully. Instead of questioning his motives, can you perhaps offer a rebuttal to his argument?

I do not question His motive (which one), I do not see Him to be a lier.
You are making accusatons up to you to prove yr point.

I never said you questioned God's motives, I said you questioned postroad's motives when you asked him why he is debating. So again, instead of questioning postroad's reasons for debating, address his argument that God is a liar

[Monta]

[Replying to post 171 by Justin108]


"I never said you questioned God's motives, I said you questioned postroad's motives when you asked him why he is debating. So again, instead of questioning postroad's reasons for debating, address his argument that God is a liar."

By now i am all lost; Tam has responed on the question of God being a lier.

Is postcard telling us that s/he believes that God exists and has concluded
that He is a lier?
If that's the case I'd like him to describe to us this God he believes in.

[postroad]

[Replying to post 172 by Monta]
I am agnostic. But if I had to believe that the God of the Bible existed and the Bible was the evidence for his existence then from that evidence I would have to conclude that God is a liar.

Jeremiah 33:20-22New International Version (NIV)

20 “This is what the Lord says: ‘If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night no longer come at their appointed time, 21 then my covenant with David my servant—and my covenant with the Levites who are priests ministering before me—can be broken and David will no longer have a descendant to reign on his throne. 22 I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars in the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore.’�

[Justin108]

By now i am all lost; Tam has responed on the question of God being a lier.

You responded to postroad's comment in post 160 as below

[Replying to post 155 by postroad]


"Which makes God a liar. "

If this makes God a lier to yu, then why are you here debating?

Is postcard telling us that s/he believes that God exists and has concluded
that He is a lier?
If that's the case I'd like him to describe to us this God he believes in.

postroad clearly states several Biblical passages in post 155, demonstrating both that he is referring to the Christian God and that said Christian God is contradicting himself

[marco]

When a disciple asked Jesus what must I do to be saved, Jesus said to love God and the neighbor and then He said it's the same as the first commandment.
We have a choice whether to keep or break the command just as Adam did.

Does it not seem absurd that children have to worry about the punitive actions of their father? What father gives a stone... and what father throws a couple out of their home or vanishes behind clouds as his kids wonder about whether there is eternal hell? What father leaves his important instructions in the hands of fallible others? There are lots of threats and very little love, it would seem.

[Monta]

When a disciple asked Jesus what must I do to be saved, Jesus said to love God and the neighbor and then He said it's the same as the first commandment.
We have a choice whether to keep or break the command just as Adam did.

Does it not seem absurd that children have to worry about the punitive actions of their father? What father gives a stone... and what father throws a couple out of their home or vanishes behind clouds as his kids wonder about whether there is eternal hell? What father leaves his important instructions in the hands of fallible others? There are lots of threats and very little love, it would seem.

So, we can look at the above quote and decide it must be false. Instead of loving God and the neighbor, we'd do it our way and hate God and the neighbor.

God should be good enough to take us into his heavenely abode.
The problem here is that we have become hateful, we take our hate with us. Is heaven a place for hate?

[Monta]

[Replying to post 172 by Monta]
I am agnostic. But if I had to believe that the God of the Bible existed and the Bible was the evidence for his existence then from that evidence I would have to conclude that God is a liar.

Jeremiah 33:20-22New International Version (NIV)

20 “This is what the Lord says: ‘If you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so that day and night no longer come at their appointed time, 21 then my covenant with David my servant—and my covenant with the Levites who are priests ministering before me—can be broken and David will no longer have a descendant to reign on his throne. 22 I will make the descendants of David my servant and the Levites who minister before me as countless as the stars in the sky and as measureless as the sand on the seashore.’�

And you have come to that conclusion from your quote here?

[postroad]

[Replying to post 177 by Monta] It certainly will not be happening if Paul revealation is genuine.

Hebrews 7:11-18New International Version (NIV)

Jesus Like Melchizedek

11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? 12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also. 13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar. 14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests. 15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears, 16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is declared:

“You are a priest forever,
in the order of Melchizedek.�[a]
18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless.