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Are there any here?
Post #1Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
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No man ever believes that the Bible means what it says: He is always convinced that it says what he means.
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Since there are relatively few Christians here, and the ones who are here represent a wide variety of backgrounds, it is unlikely that any two Christian who regularly post on this site have identical interpretations of the entire Bible.
If we take this question into the wider world of Christianity, then I dont know how we could ever establish this one way or the other.
Personally I have known a several Christians whom I have found agreement with on every topic that we discussed. Does that mean that we agree on everything in the Bible? Well, the Bible is kind of long, and we never went through it verse by verse, so I cant say definitively one way or the other.
In First Corinthians Paul makes the point that two Christians do not need to agree on every point to be equally in Christ.
If we take this question into the wider world of Christianity, then I dont know how we could ever establish this one way or the other.
Personally I have known a several Christians whom I have found agreement with on every topic that we discussed. Does that mean that we agree on everything in the Bible? Well, the Bible is kind of long, and we never went through it verse by verse, so I cant say definitively one way or the other.
In First Corinthians Paul makes the point that two Christians do not need to agree on every point to be equally in Christ.
Understand that you might believe. Believe that you might understand. –Augustine of Hippo
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Post #22Of course not.Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
....and why would that even be a good thing?
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Ahh one of the bibles get out of jail free cards. It has many of those, so why is it that christians need to invent their own?bjs wrote: Since there are relatively few Christians here, and the ones who are here represent a wide variety of backgrounds, it is unlikely that any two Christian who regularly post on this site have identical interpretations of the entire Bible.
If we take this question into the wider world of Christianity, then I dont know how we could ever establish this one way or the other.
Personally I have known a several Christians whom I have found agreement with on every topic that we discussed. Does that mean that we agree on everything in the Bible? Well, the Bible is kind of long, and we never went through it verse by verse, so I cant say definitively one way or the other.
In First Corinthians Paul makes the point that two Christians do not need to agree on every point to be equally in Christ.
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Post #24Because people claim it to be the word of god, how can the word of god be misinterpreted unless god meant it to be, but more importantly all are being informed of the interpretation by god through the holy ghost allegedly. Even you who claim it "contains" the word of god have disagreements over interpretation with others over a passage that you believe is the word of god.dianaiad wrote:Of course not.Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
....and why would that even be a good thing?
God is guiding the true believer in the interpretation of his divine word and every true believer believes something different. Do see any anomalies in that?
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You will have to explain what you mean if you want a response.Allahakbar wrote:Ahh one of the bibles get out of jail free cards. It has many of those, so why is it that christians need to invent their own?bjs wrote: Since there are relatively few Christians here, and the ones who are here represent a wide variety of backgrounds, it is unlikely that any two Christian who regularly post on this site have identical interpretations of the entire Bible.
If we take this question into the wider world of Christianity, then I dont know how we could ever establish this one way or the other.
Personally I have known a several Christians whom I have found agreement with on every topic that we discussed. Does that mean that we agree on everything in the Bible? Well, the Bible is kind of long, and we never went through it verse by verse, so I cant say definitively one way or the other.
In First Corinthians Paul makes the point that two Christians do not need to agree on every point to be equally in Christ.
Understand that you might believe. Believe that you might understand. –Augustine of Hippo
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Post #26Are there any two people anywhere who's interpretation of the words of any book (fiction or other) are identical?Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
Religion feels to me a little like a Nigerian Prince scam. The "offer" is illegitimate, the "request" is unreasonable and the source is dubious, in fact, Nigeria doesn't even have a royal family.
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Allahakbar wrote:Comprehension seems to be a general problem with theists, but maybe not. Where did you see the claim that people were identical. The question was are there any two people who understand "the word of god" identically? It's the word of god after all.Moses Yoder wrote: No, I don't believe there are two identical people in the world. If there were, they couldn't identify us by our DNA or by our fingerprints. Are there any two atheists on here with identical world views?
There, took the bait.
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Post #28I've never read Harry Potter, but I'm willing to bet there are more people on the planet who have identical understandings of those books than there are people who have identical understandings of the bible, cos that number seems to be zero.Filthy Tugboat wrote:Are there any two people anywhere who's interpretation of the words of any book (fiction or other) are identical?Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
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Post #29Sure. I could be the one who is wrong, too. That comes with the 'free will' thing, and the fact that we are still learning. Nobody expects students to be perfect.Allahakbar wrote:Because people claim it to be the word of god, how can the word of god be misinterpreted unless god meant it to be, but more importantly all are being informed of the interpretation by god through the holy ghost allegedly. Even you who claim it "contains" the word of god have disagreements over interpretation with others over a passage that you believe is the word of god.dianaiad wrote:Of course not.Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
....and why would that even be a good thing?
Nope, not really.Allahakbar wrote:God is guiding the true believer in the interpretation of his divine word and every true believer believes something different. Do see any anomalies in that?
Try this:
You have in front of you two pieces of candy. One is a chocolate bar crammed full of peanuts and raisins. Another is a piece of peanut brittle.
Now YOU are looking for the one, the TRUE, peanut candy. So you stumble over the peanut brittle, check to see if it has peanuts in it...yep, there they are. So you grab it and run with the whole thing, 'brittle' and all, shouting how this is the ONE TRUE PEANUT CANDY, that it IS PEANUT.
Meanwhile, your neighbor has found the chocolate bar, found the peanut in THAT, and is now shouting that IT is the ONE, TRUE, PEANUT CANDY, and IS PEANUT.
Neither one of you has realized that yeah, you both found the nut...but you have, in assuring yourself that it is indeed the true nut, you have wrapped the brittle and the sweet around the nut and hauled it along with this kernel of true nut. Both are nuts....but you might not be quite right about the stuff wrapped around it.
Diana,
Tongue firmly in cheek, preferring, herself, the chocolate without the nuts.
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Post #30Which one of us was being guided by the holy ghost and which peanut is really god? Because Abduls peanut wasn't the true peanut, he was misled it was a cashew. It was the holy ghost who led both of us and only one of us got it right except upon further examination I found my nut to be a pecan. We were both deceived by the holy ghost.dianaiad wrote:Sure. I could be the one who is wrong, too. That comes with the 'free will' thing, and the fact that we are still learning. Nobody expects students to be perfect.Allahakbar wrote:Because people claim it to be the word of god, how can the word of god be misinterpreted unless god meant it to be, but more importantly all are being informed of the interpretation by god through the holy ghost allegedly. Even you who claim it "contains" the word of god have disagreements over interpretation with others over a passage that you believe is the word of god.dianaiad wrote:Of course not.Allahakbar wrote: Are there any two "bible believing christians" on this site who's interpretation of the words of the bible are identical?
....and why would that even be a good thing?
Nope, not really.Allahakbar wrote:God is guiding the true believer in the interpretation of his divine word and every true believer believes something different. Do see any anomalies in that?
Try this:
You have in front of you two pieces of candy. One is a chocolate bar crammed full of peanuts and raisins. Another is a piece of peanut brittle.
Now YOU are looking for the one, the TRUE, peanut candy. So you stumble over the peanut brittle, check to see if it has peanuts in it...yep, there they are. So you grab it and run with the whole thing, 'brittle' and all, shouting how this is the ONE TRUE PEANUT CANDY, that it IS PEANUT.
Meanwhile, your neighbor has found the chocolate bar, found the peanut in THAT, and is now shouting that IT is the ONE, TRUE, PEANUT CANDY, and IS PEANUT.
Neither one of you has realized that yeah, you both found the nut...but you have, in assuring yourself that it is indeed the true nut, you have wrapped the brittle and the sweet around the nut and hauled it along with this kernel of true nut. Both are nuts....but you might not be quite right about the stuff wrapped around it.
Diana,
Tongue firmly in cheek, preferring, herself, the chocolate without the nuts.

