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What is Christianity's biggest strength?

What is Christianity's biggest weakness?

Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?

Definition of Christianity: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
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Nec Spe Nec Metu wrote: What is Christianity's biggest strength?

What is Christianity's biggest weakness?

Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?

Definition of Christianity: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies



What is Christianity's biggest strength?



That its the truth.



What is Christianity's biggest weakness?


That the mainstream christianity nowdays preach a whole different messege than what it was intended in the begginig by Jesus himself.




Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?




Yes, because either way a christian is believing in God and that will do the job of getting into heavens just fine.

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From the OP:
What is Christianity's biggest strength?
An ability to keep a straight face.
What is Christianity's biggest weakness?
A lack of ability to keep a straight face.
Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?
I can't keep a straight face when I hear of it.

Weaknesses wins.
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[Replying to post 1 by Nec Spe Nec Metu]

Christianity's biggest strength is the teachings of Jesus. They're the very foundation of Christianity. Jesus was a great teacher and being a Christian myself, I see no one who has ever topped Him, nor have I found any of His teachings too difficult to defend.

The weakest part of Christianity is classically referred to as the problem of evil. If God both can do something and wants to do something about evil, why doesn't He? Some people take this even further and say "why doesn't God ever act?" This weakness can be attributed to almost any religion, making atheism a formidable enemy.

Both of these points are addressed frequently by either side, but it's on these two points that I see either side losing the most ground. I'd also like to throw out one more strong point that applies to most theistic views: A creator. Through observation, we know that life doesn't spontaneously form in the universe. We also know life exists. Thus, it can be logically consistent to say life didn't spontaneously form and was rather created. This is another strong point that demands attention.

As for whether or not the strengths outweigh the weaknesses, that's the entirety of the debate isn't it? We can't just jump to the end unless you're willing to just accept my judgement on that point, which I don't think you are, neither would it be very helpful to anyone if you did. Holding to a belief without support is part of the issue to start with.

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BlackEyedGhost wrote:
Jesus was a great teacher and being a Christian myself, I see no one who has ever topped Him, nor have I found any of His teachings too difficult to defend.

The weakest part of Christianity is classically referred to as the problem of evil. If God both can do something and wants to do something about evil, why doesn't He? Some people take this even further and say "why doesn't God ever act?" This weakness can be attributed to almost any religion, making atheism a formidable enemy.
You have just contradicted yourself in stating that Jesus was a great teacher and then state that atheism is an enemy. The teachings of Jesus can easily be accepted by atheists, that is not a problem. It is the rest of the nonsense in Christianity which atheists don't accept.
Through observation, we know that life doesn't spontaneously form in the universe.
That is entirely false and quite contrary to what science understands of the universe.
Thus, it can be logically consistent to say life didn't spontaneously form and was rather created. This is another strong point that demands attention.
That is merely confirmation bias on your part and does not demand attention at all, quite the contrary. It follows no logic at all.
Holding to a belief without support is part of the issue to start with.
But, that is exactly what you're doing.

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What is Christianity's biggest strength?

Jesus Christ.

What is Christianity's biggest weakness?

Christians.

Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?

Definitely!

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From Post 21:
TheTruth101 wrote: What is Christianity's biggest strength?

That its the truth.
Just callin' something the truth doesn't automagically make it so.
TheTruth101 wrote: What is Christianity's biggest weakness?

That the mainstream christianity nowdays preach a whole different messege than what it was intended in the begginig by Jesus himself.
Their Christianity ain't my Christianity, so their Christianity ain't no Christianity at all.
TheTruth101 wrote: Do the strengths outweigh the weaknesses?

Yes, because either way a christian is believing in God and that will do the job of getting into heavens just fine.
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[Replying to post 24 by A Troubled Man]

Please show where and how I contradicted myself. "Jesus was a great teacher" and "atheists are a formidable enemy" is hardly a contradiction. Jesus said "love your enemy", not "think of enemies as friends".

Really? Name one time life has been observed to spontaneously form.

Confirmation bias.... Call it what you will, it's a valid argument. Don't think so? Prove it.

Holding a belief without support is FAR from what I'm doing. Saying that's what I'm doing without first knowing my full beliefs and support for them is an argument from ignorance. So holding a belief without support is, therefore, exactly what you just did.

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[Replying to post 25 by Overcomer]

Lol, I like that response. Good on ya mate!

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BlackEyedGhost wrote: Really? Name one time life has been observed to spontaneously form.
Perhaps, at this point in time there may be a handful of people who could recognise such if they were to observe it happening. To claim that humans (200k old) haven't observed spontaneous life on this planet (3.5bn yrs old) and to conclude from that that it can't happen is more than absurd.
Really? Name one time life has been observed being created by god/s.
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BlackEyedGhost wrote: I'd also like to throw out one more strong point that applies to most theistic views: A creator. Through observation, we know that life doesn't spontaneously form in the universe. We also know life exists. Thus, it can be logically consistent to say life didn't spontaneously form and was rather created. This is another strong point that demands attention.
Both theists and atheists agree that at one time there was no life and at another subsequent time there was life. The biological sciences have given us much insight into how life has changed over the eons; at one time there was no terrestrial life; prior to that there was no multicellular life. Religious revelation has provided no insight into the development of life and some misdirection; fruit bearing plants before land animals; birds before land animals; humans made from mud.

Science looks for the as yet unknown answer to the question of the original development of life on this planet seeking to find a natural process consistent with the known laws of physics, chemistry and biology. Religion waves its hands at the problem and brushes off our ignorance with, "God must have done it."
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
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