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Martin Gardner's Review of The Urantia Book

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Martin Luther wrote:What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church ... a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.

-- In a letter in Max Lenz, ed., Briefwechsel Landgraf Phillips des Grossmuthigen von Hessen mit Bucer, vol. 1.
UB wrote:The shadow of a hair's turning, premeditated for an untrue purpose, the slightest twisting or perversion of that which is principle--these constitute falseness. (The Urantia Book, p. 555.1)
When we rely upon a so-called opinions of experts based upon their claim that they "carefully" evaluated a subject, such as the Urantia Book, and that they examined it "in depth," we run the risk of committing the logical fallacy of "appeal to authority" if we neglect to do our own due dilligence and confirm that they got their facts straight, and that the facts actually are valid enough to support their conclusions.

The question is, did Gardner "carefully [and] in depth" evaluate the Urantia Book, did he get his "facts" correct, the very facts he uses to reach his conclusions? In other words, did he build upon "reliable authentic data or is the author going off on some wild tangent? "

I believe the evidence will reveal, with regards to numerous individual claims of fact, that Gardner actually never even did his homework, that he got many of his facts wrong, even ignored some which he was well aware of, and contradicted his own previous statements on certain facts that he then turned around and played in the exact opposite way just so he could justify his own a prioria conclusions. In otherwords, don't confuse me with the facts, I already know the truth and have reached (prejudged) my conclusions.

And I will present both the facts and evidence that backs up these assertions conclusively.
Dilettante wrote:The Urantia Book, according to Mr Martin Gardner, who investigated the issue in depth ...
I must admit that when I read these words a smile came across my face. This is kind of like shooting fish in a barrel, and anyone who likes debating cannot help but feel a little smile when one's opponent opens mouth and inserts foot. And that is just what Dilittante has done claiming that Gardner "investigated the issue [The Urantia Book] in depth." That is patently false, and I am going to prove it beyond a doubt, and have fun doing so.

Now don't get me wrong, I have a respect for Gardner, and was truly saddened to see him get his hackles up when he ran into some readers who were frankly ignoramuses, and in their enthusiasm, which some can't distinguish from fanaticism, made complete fools of themselves. I tend to believe him when he says the following, because I have seen some pretty foolish behavior from readers too:
Gardner wrote:The foregoing chapter is a much revised version of the column as it first appeared. I had many mistakes in that column. Irate believers in the Urantia Book were quick to point them out in angry letters. It was the passion in these letters that aroused my further interest in the Urantia movement and started me on a research project that has led to my preparing a book about the cult. (On The Wild Side, The Great Urantia Book Mystery, p. 71)
Irate ad hominem practicing readers of the Urantia Book? Well, we have all seen them, have we not? But then, there are some pretty fanatical fundamentalists who read the Bible, but most people are wise enough to not throw the baby out with the bath water and to make the mistake of evaluating the Bible based upon the fanatical ravings of lunatics. Sadly, Gardner did just that. He transferred his anger and desire to get even to his efforts to evaluate the Urantia Book, and in so doing lost his intellectual objectivity and ability to evaluate the facts honestly, without extreme bias (we all have bias), even to the point that he sacrificed integrity and truthfulness, and I am going to present overwhelming evidence that this is the case.

The following examples are taken form an unpublished book I have written, called The Flight of Reason: Debunking Pseudo Skepticism, a parody on Gardner's book The Flight of Peter Fromm, in which, oddly enough, Gardner rejects his fundamentalist beliefs he grew up with and eventually finds a form of theism that lead him to say, "For a theist, evolution is God’s way of creating. It conflicts with no religion, only with primitive Christianity that takes every sentence of Genesis as literally true. (Gardner 1983: 373)"
Flight of Reason wrote:In his book The Flight of Peter Fromm (FPF), a fictionalized auto-biographical novel, Gardner describes how he entered the halls of higher learning a Christian of the fundamentalist mindset, doubting the theory of evolution, and while studying geology came to realize the error of Creationist arguments such as the “flood theory of fossils,” and went through an ensuing “painful transition” in which he lost his belief in Christianity. Gardner muses that perhaps it was this painful conceptual revolution that aroused his interest in debunking pseudo-science.

Despite the loss of his childhood beliefs, Gardner managed to retain a form of religious belief called “fideism,” a theological position that asserts the primacy of faith over reason, which he describes as a form of “theological positivism.” In his book The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener (WPS) Gardner presents his arguments for belief in theism and the concept of a personal God and immortality—personality survival after death. Gardner notes that Carnap’s philosophy had a major influence on his approach to theology, and persuaded him that “metaphysical questions are ‘meaningless’ in the sense that they cannot be answered empirically or by reason. They can be defended only on emotive grounds.” To quote Gardner (my emphasis):
Gardner wrote:Fideism refers to believing something on the basis of faith, or emotional reasons rather than intellectual reasons. As a fideist I don't think there are any arguments that prove the existence of God or the immortality of the soul. More than that I think the better arguments are on the side of the atheists. So it is a case of quixotic emotional belief that really is against evidence. If you have strong emotional reasons for metaphysical belief and it's not sharply contradicted by science or logical reasoning, you have a right to make a leap of faith if it provides sufficient satisfaction. (Michael Shermer, 1997. Why People Believe Weird Things, Pseudoscience, Superstition, and other Confusions of our Time, p. 276. Transcript of Interview by M. Shermer, August 11.)
To research material for writing The Flight of Reason I read practically everything Gardner ever wrote, including articles while he was a student. Now that took work, believe me, as I had to contact his university and inquire from rather arcane research librarians who pulled stuff out of rather dusty archives. After all, Gardner has been around a long time. You see, I did not just want to debunk Gardner, I wanted to understand him, to really understand him, and why he would make such a sad and tragic mistake near the end of his life after such a great career. And I don't say it was a sad and tragic mistake because he critiqued the Urantia Book, for if he critically yet honestly examined it, even if the critique was negative, I would see it as worthy of consideration. But he did not do this, as he betrayed his own values and standards, and the values and standards of the very movement and organization he helped to form, the modern Skeptical movement
Flight of Reason wrote:Largely due to Gardner’s 1952 book Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science he has become known as the founding father of the modern Skeptical movement. Michael Shermer, the founding publisher of Skeptic magazine (www.skeptic.com), says the following about Gardner:
Shermer wrote:In 1950 Martin Gardner published an article in the Antioch Review entitled "The Hermit Scientist," about what we would today call pseudoscientists. It was Gardner's first publication of a skeptical nature …. In 1952 he expanded it into a book called In the Name of Science, with the descriptive subtitle "An entertaining survey of the high priests and cultists of science, past and present." … It has come down to us as Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science, which is still in print and is arguably the skeptic classic of the past half a century.

[Gardner bemoans] that some beliefs never seem to go out of vogue, as he recalled an H. L. Mencken quip from the 1920s: "Heave an egg out of a Pullman window, and you will hit a Fundamentalist almost anywhere in the U.S. today." Gardner cautions that when religious superstition should be on the wane, it is easy "to forget that thousands of high school teachers of biology, in many of our southern states, are still afraid to teach the theory of evolution for fear of losing their jobs." Today creationism has spread northward and mutated into the oxymoronic form of "creation science." (Michael Shermer, Scientific American. Vol. 286, No. 3. (March 2002). p. 36-7.)
Flight of Reason wrote:In an interview in the Skeptical Inquirer magazine (A Mind at Play, March/April 1998.) Martin Gardner says "I think of myself as a journalist who writes mainly about math and science, and a few other fields of interest." Gardner’s "main interests are philosophy and religion, with special emphasis on the philosophy of science." He majored in philosophy at the University of Chicago and graduated with the class of 1936.

He is described as having a mind that is "highly philosophical, at home with the most abstract concepts…." He has received numerous awards and praise from both scholars and scientists alike. To quote Frazier’s interview in the Skeptical Inquirer:
Frazier wrote:Douglas Hofstadter has said, "Martin Gardner is one of the greatest intellects produced in this country in this century." Stephen Jay Gould has said you have been "the single brightest beacon defending rationality and good science against the mysticism and anti-intellectualism that surround us."
Gardner states that "Philosophy gives one an excuse to dabble in everything. Although my interests are broad, they seldom get beyond elementary levels. I give the impression of knowing far more than I do because I work hard on research..." He likes to think that he is "… unduly harsh and dogmatic only when writing about pseudo-science … and when he is expressing the views of all the experts in the relevant field…." But notes when "… there are areas on the fringes of orthodoxy, supported by respected scientists, I try to be more agnostic." Anyone who has devoted a substantial amount of time studying the history of science, would I think, question just how reasonable it is to presume to express "the views of all the experts in the relevant field." Gardner sometimes likes to speak in absolutes, unlike most of the scientists he presumes to be speaking for, who seldom themselves speak in absolute dogmatic terms.
And so, in the next few posts we are going to examine just how "in depth" and "carefully" Gardner "perused" the Urantia Book, because the intergrity of his review hinges on whether or not he was an honest skeptic, or just an angry old man playing the part of the carping critic, a trifling skeptic who did not even take the time to read not only the book, but even some paragraphs (as will soon become painfully obvious), he claims to have "carefully" examined.
Gardner wrote:Nothing could persuade me to read every line of this monstrous mishmash of claptrap interspersed with puddles of pious platitudes, but I have perused it carefully enough to get the drift of its wild science-fiction themes..... Indeed it may be the largest, most fantastic chunk of channeled moonshine ever to be bound in one volume." (Notes of a Fringe-Watcher by Martin Gardner: The Great Urantia Mystery, in Skeptical Inquirer, Winter 1990, p. 124)
Gardner has made his career as a journalist and author. His writings have championed the truth of clear reason informed by sound science, and exposed the false and misguided logical fallacies so often used by those who espouse such pseudo-scientific beliefs as PKI and Creationism. As a professional writer and journalist, having been trained in philosophy, Gardner should be well acquainted with those all essential journalistic standards of accuracy, integrity, and fairness.
Hall wrote:Accuracy demands that the information conforms to reality and is not misleading or false. It demands not only careful and thorough research, but a disciplined use of language. Integrity demands that the information is truthful; not distorted to justify a conclusion. Fairness demands the information reports or reflects equitably the relevant facts and significant points of view; it deals fairly and ethically with persons, institutions, issues, and events.

-- David Hall, DePauw University Examines the Question Readers Fairly Ask: Can Journalists Get Things Right, And Fairly Right? Intellectual Honesty Poses the Test. Reporting Standards: Reflections by DePauw University. Directions in Journalism. Vol. 1, No. 1, April 2, 2002. And Journalistic Standards and Practices. CBC Canada, 2001.
Honest critical examination of the Urantia Book and its teachings should be welcomed by its readers; it is also fair to expect such a critique to be factually accurate, fair, and honest to context when quoting, summarizing, and paraphrasing to assure the original meaning is not distorted in any way by adding or subtracting from it.

The spirit of the following passage, which is attributed to Jesus, would be good advice for readers of the Urantia Book and Skeptics alike:
Jesus Purportedly wrote:True and genuine inward certainty does not in the least fear outward analysis, nor does truth resent honest criticism. You should never forget that intolerance is the mask covering up the entertainment of secret doubts as to the trueness of one's belief. No man is at any time disturbed by his neighbor's attitude when he has perfect confidence in the truth of that which he wholeheartedly believes. Courage is the confidence of thoroughgoing honesty about those things which one professes to believe. Sincere men are unafraid of the critical examination of their true convictions and noble ideals." (Urantia Book 1641)
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McCulloch wrote:
So, are you trying to argue that since Gardner can be shown to have been dishonest, then his assessment of the Urantia Book must be false?
Before you tackle anything else I would like to know your response to
McCulloch's question it might be relevant.

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I noticed you don't read any better than Gardner

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Cathar1950 wrote:McCulloch wrote:
So, are you trying to argue that since Gardner can be shown to have been dishonest, then his assessment of the Urantia Book must be false?
Before you tackle anything else I would like to know your response to
McCulloch's question it might be relevant.
I see you share a propensity of Gardner's; you don't read that which you presume to comment upon. If you had read the entire thread, you would not only see that your unsupported statements are refuted, but that the answer to McCullock's questions has already been given.

Regarding your simply repeating Gardner's fallacious arguments, I note it is to be expected from someone who does not even bother to obtain an original version of Bain's article to confirm what was actually said, but rather relies upon second hand information based upon the fallacy of "appeal to authority."
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Evidence and Facts #1: Did Gardner Get His Facts Straight?

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Makin wrote:Evidence is hard to come by, it is largely circumstantial, and there is never enough of it.

--J. Hoover Makin
In the previous posts, I have provided a wide selection of evidence regarding the history of Alfred Wegener's theory of continental drift. This evidence comes from eminent scientists, the very scientists who participated in both Wegener's day, and those who participated in the more recent so-called revolution of plate tectonics.

I will be basing my argument that with regard to the question of continental drift upon the numerous citations already provided. It is clear that the statements made by the authors Bain et al. fairly and accurately represent the actual facts of this history. Their statements regarding the history of continental drift are supported by the authors above, and I have gone out of my way to gather evidence from other sources than they used themselves (i.e., Le Grand, who supports the same claims as the authors above), and all conclusively show that Bain et al. got their facts right.

The first fact to be noted, is the typical arguments being put forth by popular science writers, educators, and from such magazines as the Skeptical Inquirer and the Skeptic, tend to repeat each other's arguments, and like our educator above, sometimes get their facts very wrong. Now that is not a problem, but when they insist in repeating their moldy old arguments, "Wegener's theory was rejected because there was no mechanism," which may have been excusable in the early period after the initial review of Wegener's theory in the US, but is no longer tenable or even credible given the vast overwhelming amount of historical material refuting this claim that has been forthcoming since the rise of plate tectonics, and which continues to come out even to this day, they have become dogmatists, and stagnant pseudo-skeptics unwilling to self-correct in the face of new facts and evidence. Hardly paradigms for true science, so who then, are they speaking for?

The second fact to be noted is the manner in which Gardner misrepresents the statements and meaning of Bain's article. Gardner does not quote Bain's article in context in GCM, because if he did, his misquoting and misrepresentation would be obvious, and he would have been unable to distort Bain's meaning for his own argumentative purpose. I have quoted the entire text from Bain's article which Gardner was reviewing, so that the full context can be compared to Gardner's characterization of it.

In a 35 page booklet written by Richard Bain, Ken Glasziou, Matt Neibaur, and Frank Wright are the following comments regarding the Urantia Book’s statements on continental drift:
Bain et al. wrote:The Urantia Book states unequivocally that all land on earth was joined together in one huge continent that commenced to break up 750 million years ago, and was followed by a long period of continental drifting during which land bridges were repeatedly formed and broken. The story of the movements of the continents and concomitant effects upon developing life is described in considerable detail in the book. (Bain 6)

The concept of continental drift was rejected by most geologists and geophysicists until examination of the ocean floor at the mid-Atlantic Ridge during the late 1950’s and early 1960’s revealed that the Earth’s crust is being melted and forced upwards resulting in ocean floor spreading, hence continental drift. However the theory of continental drift did not become generally accepted in North America until the mid 1960’s (see H.E. Le Grand).

Until recently, the date of commencement of break up on the single continent was placed at about 200 million years ago. Currently this date has been revised and pushed back to between about 600 and 800 million years ago as stated in The Urantia Book. (Bain 6)

— Bain, R., & Glasziou, K., et. al. The Science Content of The Urantia Book (SCUB).

See the following for their complete statements:

http://www.bizmota.com/wegener/bain/bain.pdf
Later in the same booklet an expanded version of the above comments on continental drift is provided:
Bain et al. wrote:CONTINENTAL DRIFT

The Urantia Book states quite categorically that all land on earth was originally a single continent that subsequently broke up, commencing 750 million years ago (p. 663), followed by a long period of continental drifting during which land bridges were repeatedly formed and broken. (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

Wegener’s theory

The idea of continental drift was mooted in the 19th century and first put forward as a comprehensive theory by Wegener in 1912. It was not well accepted, being classified as pseudoscience. For example Rollin T. Chamberlin wrote in 1928 just 6 years prior to receipt of the Urantia Papers: "Wegener’s theory in general is of the foot-less type ... It plays a game in which there are few restrictive rules." (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

Chamberlin went on to list 18 points that he considered were destructive of the drift hypothesis, and actually began his book with, "Can we call geology a science when there exists such a difference of opinion in fundamental matters as to make it possible for such a theory as this to run wild." The theory remained discredited in the opinion of most geologists until the 1960’s. I can still remember attending a geology lecture at Sydney University in 1951 when the lecturer dismissed the concept of continental drift with the comment that there were no known forces that could wrench continents apart. The story of the earlier conflict and later acceptance of continental drift has been recently recorded by science historian H. E. Le Grand. (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

New evidence

The change in attitude by geologists, particularly in America, was initiated by the careful bathymetric, paleomagnetic, and seismological surveys in the region of long mountain ranges on the ocean floors, such as the mid-Atlantic ridge that stretches from Iceland to Antarctica. During the 1960’s, geophysical surveys of the ocean floor revealed that the rock from the earth’s mantle is being melted, then forced upwards resulting in sea floor spreading. This upwelling would be expected to push the continents apart, and thus provided the missing evidence for a physical mechanism that could bring about continental drift. Gradually the term continental drift was replaced by a new terminology and today it is known universally as plate tectonics. (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

Against the current!

The Urantia Papers that mention continental drift were presented in 1934, and published in book form in 1955. The writers of the papers could not have been unaware of the very tenuous nature of the theory and would have known that it was held in disrepute by most American geologists. Hence, unless these writers had access to pre-existing knowledge, they would appear to have been doing a very foolish thing in going against strongly-held scientific opinion. (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

The Urantia Book is at variance with many published estimates of geological time, for instance for the Carboniferous and Devonian periods where the discrepancy may be about 100 million years. In some areas there is good agreement, for example the Book (p.683) talks of the disappearance of land bridges between the Americas and Europe and Africa in the era between 160 and 170 million years ago, and an article in Scientific American [June 1979 issue]4, places this break at 165 million years ago. However land bridges connected these continents again at later times via Greenland, Iceland, and the Bering Straits, and also connected South America to Australia via Antarctica, and directly to Africa (Urantia Book, pp. 694, 695, 698; Science and the Citizen: The Migrating Marsupial. Scientific American, January 1983, 248(1): 73). (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

Time of break-up of continents

A most remarkable aspect of The Urantia Book accounts is the statement that the breakup of the supercontinent commenced 750 million years ago. Wegener placed it at 200 million years ago. The 1984 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica’s ’Science and Technology’ presented what was then purported to be an up-to-date series of maps depicting the progress of continental drift from 50 to 200 million years ago which is at variance with a similar portrayal in … Scientific American [April 1985 issue] by about 100 million years in aspects of the progression.

Nevertheless, both versions still placed the commencement of continental drift in the vicinity of 200 to 250 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 15-16)

Somewhere around 1980 some geologists were having a rethink about the commencement of continental drift, and in a book entitled 'Genesis', published in 1982, J. Gribbin reported the view that there may have been a pre-existing continent, Pangea 1, roughly 600 million years ago that had broken up into 4 new continents by about 450 million years ago, at the end of the Ordovician age. Then about 200 million years ago, the continents were thought to have converged to form Pangea 2, which quickly broke, first to Laurasia and Gondwanaland, then further breakup occurred at the end of the Cretaceous to give an appearance much like the present world. A different opinion was expressed in an article in Scientific American (1984) 250 (2), 41 which stated the view that a breakup occurred in late Ripherian times between 700 and 900 million years ago, but a 1987 article (Scientific American 256, 94) is more conservative and placed the breakup of Pangea 1 at somewhere near the beginning of the pre-Cambrian, in the order of 600 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

How could it be?

So, 30 years after publication of The Urantia Book with its statements about continental drift and the breakup of a single supercontinent commencing 750 million years ago, Wegener's much maligned theory has now become accepted by virtually all geologists. Furthermore, the date of commencement of the breakup of the original supercontinent that for many, many years was assumed to have started only about 200 million years ago,-has, by virtue of information coming to hand in the 1980’s, now been pushed back to beyond the pre-Cambrian era, and in the vicinity of the time stated in the Urantia Papers in 1934 as 750 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

It is quite impossible to calculate the odds against being right about such a matter 50 or even 30 years ago. Perhaps one chance in a million would be an underestimate. But considering both the predictions regarding neutrinos, the w-particle, the undiscovered strong force, and neutron stars, together with this remarkable statement on both the time of commencement of continental drift and the factuality of its existence, it is exceedingly difficult to do other than to assume that the authors of the Urantia Papers had access to pre-existing knowledge, at least in respect to these topics. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

CONTINENTAL DRIFT AND LAND ELEVATION

The Urantia Book account of the geological history of our planet tells us that following the breakup of the supercontinent about 700 million years ago, there have been repeated cycles of land elevation and submergence. Between approximately 400 and 200 million years ago, the periodicity appears to average very roughly 25 million years, with periods of much more frequent cycling during the Carboniferous and Cretaceous periods. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

Changes in sea level have often been attributed to advance and retreat of the polar ice caps, but this would not appear to account for the movements described in The Urantia Book. More recently a mechanism has been proposed involving the accumulation of heat beneath the great land masses that is thought to cause the elevation, doming, and breakup of continents, and their subsequent rejoining.5 Although the concept has been put forward dominantly to account for transverse movement, it also provides a physical mechanism that could explain the vertical movement described in The Urantia Book account. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

The mechanism proposed indicates a relatively slow build up of heat, but the subsequent blow off can occur in a number of ways, hence considerable deviation from sine wave periodicity would be expected. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

This new theory will be of interest to Urantia Book readers who have been puzzled by its account of the alternate elevation and depression of continents on such a large scale. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)
Following is a link to an article by Mark McMenamin that addresses the Urantia Book's statements regarding continental drift, in which he places them in historical context, and notes the 750 Ma date given for the breakup of Rodinia:

http://www.bizmota.com/wegener/mcmenamin/mcmenamin.pdf

I note, McMenamin is a scientist who acknowledges the fact the 750 Ma date was not known as late as 1955, and notes there were other facts unknown as well (for those to whom the facts actually matter see the link above), yet Gardner, who was fully aware of the 750 Ma date purposely ignored it, arguing that Bain's main point was the fact that continental drift was a rejected theory, and that because of this the Urantia Book was "prophetic." This is false; Bain did not make this argument; this is Gardner misquoting and misrepresenting Bain statements to create a "Straw Man" argument. Gardner then goes on to do his little flip-flop, contradicting what he already had stated about Wegner's theory in Order and Surprise, arguing that continental drift was a "respected" theory, and that Bain et al. got their history wrong. In truth, Gardner was distorting history and twisting truth (he knew the truth, he wrote about it already, and Bain personally informed him of the main point, the 750 Ma date) for his own rhetorical purpose. Bain's characterization of the historical treatment of continental drift is collaborated by all the scientists and historians above, but that was only the backdrop, or context, for the main point, which was the 750 Ma date for the break-up of a supercontinent that was not even known to exist and which could have only been a "wild guess" even in 1955.

Gardner wrote:Consider the way in which the four authors strive to convince readers that the UB (663) exhibited foreknowledge by defending the theory of continental drift long before it became part of mainstream geology....[1] [T]they maintain, Wegener’s theory had been strongly rejected by geologists at the time the UB papers were written.[2] Therefore, they argue, the UB was genuinely prophetic in accepting the theory.[3] (GCM 197)

Unfortunately, the four authors did not trouble to check on the history of Wegener’s guess. In early 1920s, when the first Urantia Book papers were coming through … continental drift was a controversial but widely respected theory. Alfred Wegener (1880-1930) first proposed continental drift in a 1912 paper. (GCM 197 )

In 1915 Wegener published The Origins of Continents and Oceans. This 94-page book went through three revised and expanded German editions and was translated into French and English. Nature favorably reviewed the book in 1922.[4] Its theory was supported by many top geologists around the world, especially Holland. Wladimir Köppen, a distinguished German astronomer, was an early convert.[5] Harvard geologist Reginald Daly, South African geologist Alexander du Toit, and Arthur Holmes, of Edinburgh, were among other enthusiastic allies. Du Toit even wrote a book titled Our Wandering Continents, published as late as 1957, that is dedicated to Wegener. As Michael Friedlander says in the chapter on continental drift in his At the Fringes of Science (1994), Wegener’s theory “remained in a state of suspended credibility until after World War II…. For good histories of Wegener’s theory, see Continental Drift (1983), by U. B. Marvin, and Continents in Collision (1983), by Russell Miller.” (GCM 197-8 )[6]

A 1926 symposium on the theory was held in my home town of Tulsa. Its papers (most of them opposing Wegener) were later published as a book, with a long introduction supporting the theory, and a closing essay opposing it. Sir James Jeans, in his popular book Through Space and Time (1934), calls Wegener’s theory “more interesting” than an older theory of continental alteration, “although it [Wegener’s theory] has not yet gained acceptance from scientists.” (GCM 198 )[7]

Opposition to the theory, especially in the United States, did not start to build until the mid-twenties.[8] It culminated in the early fifties … It was in the late fifties that evidence supporting plate tectonics provided for the first time a plausible mechanism for the drift, and opinions favoring the theory were revived. (GCM 198 )

Today's theories about continental drift depart in many ways from both Wegener and the UB. Plates of the earth's crust do not drift on liquid basalt. They are pushed apart by molten rock that wells up from the great depths to solidify and shove the plates. "Seafloor spreading" it is called, a hypothesis proposed by Robert Dietz in 1961. The movement of continents is much slower than Wegener supposed. (GCM 198)[9]

--Martin Gardner (1995) Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery. (GCM)

[1] The authors did not use the theory of continental drift as evidence of "foreknowledge." Gardner is misrepresenting the facts, as anyone who reads Bain's actual words above can see. Bain did note the history of continental drift and he did note that it would be against the then currently accepted ideas in the United States, even as late as 1955, to argue in support of the theory. This fact is consistent with the historical facts I have provided independent of Bain or Gardner. Gardner chose to ignore the real point of Bain's article though, which was the timing of the break-up of the continents, and thereby distort and twist the truth of what Bain was really saying and what the real point of his article was. A real scientist, one who recognizes the moral and professional obligation to represent the facts in context and honestly, would note the significant fact of the 750 Ma date that was really the point of Bain's statements, just as McMenamin did in his chapter which included comments on the Urantia Book. Gardner, even after having been personally told by Bain that this was misrepresenting his statements, nevertheless went on to misquote and distort what was actually said.

[2] Another of Gardner's falsehoods; Bain never uses the word "strongly," or anything like it, but he does carefully and accurately represent the historical facts surrounding the response to Wegener's theory in the United States, and its status between its introduction and the 1960s. The historical record shows that Bain got his facts right; Gardner distorted the truth for his own argumentative purpose.

[3] Gardner makes no mention of the 750 Ma date. Why is that? Because it doesn't suit his argumentative rhetorical needs, as it is counter-evidence to his argument. And that is why he did not fully quote Bain's article in context in GCM (required I note by the standards of professional journalism), an article he read and knew full well the real point of which was the fact of the 750 Ma date given for the break-up of the first supercontinent.

[4] This is again, a distortion and misrepresentation of the actual facts. Wegner's book was not published into English until 1924. In the early years prior to its translation in English only a few English reviews were forthcoming, and most of those from the US were overwhelmingly negative.

[5] Here, Gardner distorts the truth that Wegener's theory was rejected on emotional grounds, not scientific fact, overwhelmingly by the US geological community; Wladimir Köppen was Wegner's father-in-law! I guess Gardner just decided not to mention that, so he could keep up this farce that Wegener's theory was "favorably" received and "supported by many top geologists around the world." I note how Gardner downplays the truth about the outright rejection of Wegener's theory by the United States geological community. See Naomi Oreskes' statements in this thread regarding the rejection of Wegener's theory in the US and especially the vitriolic attacks on Wegener witnessed at the American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG) meeting in 1926, which Gardner, also misrepresents.

[6] Apparently, Gardner did not read Marvin, or he overlooked her statement,

"My researches have altered many preconceptions. They have, for example, inspired a profound respect for Alfred Wegener, whose reputation as a scientist still suffers in North America despite some attempts at rehabilitation. [No doubt due to the likes of pseudo-scholars like Gardner.] I have also learned to admire the accomplishments of many an earlier scientists who, working without computers or remote sensing equipment, perceived the planet as a whole in terms very similar to our own. Are not those scientists and detectives most brilliant who deduce the nature of things from the fewest clues? (Marvin 1973: Forward)

"During the interchange between Simpson, du Toit, and Longwell, Bailey Willis entered the fray with his article “Continental Drift: Ein Marchen,” from which we quoted in our introduction. Willis felt that the time had come to call a halt to the use of scientific time, talent, and periodical space for further consideration of this fairy tale. (Marvin 1973: 119)

"Willis was certainly wrong in his judgment, yet little or no new evidence for continental drift was presented between 1935 and 1955. The debate languished, with all but a tiny minority of workers believing the issue was closed for good and all. Continental drift as an idea declined into a state of limbo, not a little disreputable, and perilously close to the status of science fiction." ( Marvin 1973: 119)

Clealy, Marvin does not agree with Gardner; why didn't he report the facts accurately? Perhaps he didn't read Marvin either. It seems Gardner likes to write with absolute confidence about things he hasn't read and posses little real knowledge about.

[7] See my personal communication with Naomi Oreskes regarding Gardner's characterization of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists (AAPG) meeting in 1926.

[8] How ludicrous; the book was not published in English until 1924, so that would mean that "Opposition to the theory" existed right from the start, just as the facts show when viewed in light of the actual histories as told by the scientists and historians I have quoted extensively.

[9] Once again, Gardner shows his ignorance of the history of science, and his propensity to make things up to suit his argumentative needs. Gardner states, the Plates of the earth's crust do not drift on liquid basalt. They are pushed apart by molten rock that wells up from the great depths to solidify and shove the plates. Gardner is obviously unaware of the historical fact that Arthur Holmes proposed the same mechanism that would later come to be called "seafloor spreading." Naomi Oreskes states, "Holmes also argued [1931] that new oceanic crust would be created at the mid-ocean ridges by basalt intrusion and submarine lava flows.... Holmes theory was not vague, it is specific.... Arthur Holmes had proposed a mechanism for creating and destroying oceanic crust, and it was the same mechanism as that later proposed by Harry Hess. In denying Holmes credit for the work he had done, Dietz ironically credited Hess with work he had not done." (Oreskes 1999: 270-271) And Wegener incorporated Holmes work into his own theory as any good scientist would have. This information was available at the time Gardner was writing GCM, but of course, only someone who really cared to fairly represent the facts, and therefore, took the time to do real research would have known this.
Lets do a comparative summary of Gardner’s past and recent statements:
Bain and Gardner wrote:The concept of continental drift was rejected by most geologists and geophysicists until examination of the ocean floor at the mid-Atlantic Ridge during the late 1950’s and early 1960’s revealed that the Earth’s crust is being melted and forced upwards resulting in ocean floor spreading, hence continental drift. (Richard Bain, Ken Glasziou, et. al., The Science Content of The Urantia Book )

Every devotee of a fringe science should read Kitcher’s pages on Alfred Wegener, whose theory of continental drift was long rejected by geologists. (Martin Gardner, (1983) Order and Surprise.)
In his previous statements made in his book Order and Surprise, Gardner agrees with Bain et al., that Wegener's theory was "long rejected by geologists." This statement is accurate, and supported by the overwhelming body of evidence I have presented above.

But apparently when Gardner decided to review Bain et. al., he changes his tune rather suddenly:
Gardner wrote:Consider the way in which the four authors strive to convince readers that the UB (663) exhibited foreknowledge by defending the theory of continental drift long before it became part of mainstream geology.... [T]hey maintain, Wegener’s theory had been strongly rejected by geologists at the time the UB papers were written. Therefore, they argue, the UB was genuinely prophetic in accepting the theory. (Gardner, GCM 197 )

Unfortunately, the four authors did not trouble to check on the history of Wegener’s guess. In early 1920s, when the first Urantia Book papers were coming through … continental drift was a controversial but widely respected theory. (Gardner, GCM 197 )
First, Gardner mischaracterizes Bain's statement by claiming Bain states Wegener's theory was "strongly rejected by geologists at the time the UB papers were written." Bain actually said, "The concept of continental drift was rejected by most geologists and geophysicists until examination of the ocean floor at the mid-Atlantic Ridge during the late 1950’s and early 1960’s," which is a factually true statement in perfect agreement with the statements of the above scientist/historians. Not only does Bain not use the word "strongly," but Gardner himself previously says, "Wegener, whose theory of continental drift was long rejected by geologists," which is exactly what Bain et. al. said!

Then Gardner goes on to claim that "continental drift was a controversial but widely respected theory," which is not only contradicted by his own statement that Wegener's "theory of continental drift was long rejected by geologists," but is refuted by the actual historical record, much of which was available at the time of Gardner's review.

Gardner's remarks raise another very interesting question; how inconsistent is it to accuse Bain et. al. of sloppy work by saying they "did not trouble to check on the history of Wegener’s guess," when Gardner is 1) contradicting his own words, 2) his flip-flopped position is refuted by the historical record, which means he was too lazy to "check on the history" and get his facts correct, and finally, he refers to Wegener's theory as a "guess," which frankly is ludicrous and could only be made by someone who is ignorant of the actual historical facts.

It is obvious that the ‘four authors’ did a better job of checking the history of Wegener’s hypothesis (which Gardner refers to it as little more than a guess) than Gardner did. Or in light of his statements that the "theory of continental drift was long rejected by geologists" in Order and Surprise, and then his seemingly opposite statement that "continental drift was a controversial but widely respected theory" in GCM, that he is less than honest and misrepresents (manipulates) the facts to suite his argumentative needs of the moment.

Bottom line; Bain et al. got their facts right; continental drift was rejected in the United States at the time the papers were being compiled and published, and their assertions accord with reality, unlike Gardner's misrepresentation of the facts for his own rhetorical purposes.

Finally, Gardner's characterization of the "1926 symposium" (which he claims to have read) on continental drift held in the United States is a gross mischaracterization of the actual facts and events that took place, as is evidenced in a personal communication with Naomi Oreskes in which I shared with her the following:
Rob wrote:Gardner attempts to argue that "Opposition to the theory, especially in the United States, did not start to build until the mid-twenties." I don't think Wegener's book was even translated into English until the mid-1920s -- 1924 to be exact -- at which time it received a wider exposure within the United States' scientific community. Response to Wegener I believe was hostile from the beginning once it was seriously discussed by the United States' geological community. Gardner mischaracterizes the tone and degree of opposition of the 1926 symposium, in my opinion, to downplay the negative response to Wegener's theory for his own self-serving argumentative purpose; which apparently is to debunk the claims of Bain et al. regarding statements made in The Urantia Book on continental drift.
Her reply was the following:
Oreskes, personal communication wrote:Your reading of Gardner is correct. Most Americans did not read W. until the 1924 English translation, and then, as you say, the reaction was almost uniformly hostile. The same is true of Tulsa. The book version of the conference is more balanced than the meeting was, because van der Gracht solicited additional papers for the book--from W. himself, Joly, and Molengraaf--all non US. No one in the US except Reginald Daly was really supportive. I think you are quite right: Gardner was trying to make the whole thing seem fairer and calmer than it actually was, which is the same thing Kitcher has done.

Bain and Gardner wrote:Against the current!

The Urantia Papers that mention continental drift were presented in 1934, and published in book form in 1955. The writers of the papers could not have been unaware of the very tenuous nature of the theory and would have known that it was held in disrepute by most American geologists. Hence, unless these writers had access to pre-existing knowledge, they would appear to have been doing a very foolish thing in going against strongly-held scientific opinion. (Bain et al. 1991: 15)

(....)

Time of break-up of continents

A most remarkable aspect of The Urantia Book accounts is the statement that the breakup of the supercontinent commenced 750 million years ago. Wegener placed it at 200 million years ago. The 1984 edition of Encyclopedia Britannica’s ’Science and Technology’ presented what was then purported to be an up-to-date series of maps depicting the progress of continental drift from 50 to 200 million years ago which is at variance with a similar portrayal in … Scientific American [April 1985 issue] by about 100 million years in aspects of the progression.

Nevertheless, both versions still placed the commencement of continental drift in the vicinity of 200 to 250 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 15-16)

Somewhere around 1980 some geologists were having a rethink about the commencement of continental drift, and in a book entitled 'Genesis', published in 1982, J. Gribbin reported the view that there may have been a pre-existing continent, Pangea 1, roughly 600 million years ago that had broken up into 4 new continents by about 450 million years ago, at the end of the Ordovician age. Then about 200 million years ago, the continents were thought to have converged to form Pangea 2, which quickly broke, first to Laurasia and Gondwanaland, then further breakup occurred at the end of the Cretaceous to give an appearance much like the present world. A different opinion was expressed in an article in Scientific American (1984) 250 (2), 41 which stated the view that a breakup occurred in late Ripherian times between 700 and 900 million years ago, but a 1987 article (Scientific American 256, 94) is more conservative and placed the breakup of Pangea 1 at somewhere near the beginning of the pre-Cambrian, in the order of 600 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

How could it be?

So, 30 years after publication of The Urantia Book with its statements about continental drift and the breakup of a single supercontinent commencing 750 million years ago, Wegener's much maligned theory has now become accepted by virtually all geologists. Furthermore, the date of commencement of the breakup of the original supercontinent that for many, many years was assumed to have started only about 200 million years ago,-has, by virtue of information coming to hand in the 1980’s, now been pushed back to beyond the pre-Cambrian era, and in the vicinity of the time stated in the Urantia Papers in 1934 as 750 million years ago. (Bain et al. 1991: 16)

Consider the way in which the four authors strive to convince readers that the UB (663) exhibited foreknowledge by defending the theory of continental drift long before it became part of mainstream geology.... Therefore, they argue, the UB was genuinely prophetic in accepting the theory. (GCM 197)
It is obvious that when Gardner's characterization of Bain's argument is viewed in context, that it is a gross mischaracterization to claim that Bain was arguing that the UB "exhibited foreknowledge by defending the theory of continental drift long before it became part of mainstream geology." What Bain did argue was that for the authors to argue in support of Wegener's theory at that time would have put them in opposition to the consensus of the United States geological community, which is a historically accurate and factually true statement. Gardner, on the other hand, goes out of his way to portray continental drift as a respectable theory, even though he had previously argued that Wegener's "theory of continental drift was long rejected by geologists." He also failed to cite the real point of Bain's article, which was the 750 date for the break-up of the first supercontinent. Again, at some point, any honest observer is lead to ask, "Why isn't Gardner accurately and fairly representing the facts?"

I note McMenamin states,
McMenamin wrote:The last quotation in this chapter's epigraph describes the Proterozoic breakup of the supercontinent Rodinia. This amazing passage, written in the 1930s, anticipates scientific results that did not actually appear in the scientific literature until many decades later. This unusual source is The Urantia Book. The name Urantia refers to planet Earth. (McMenamin 1998: 173)

(....)the anonymous members of the Urantia Corps hit on some remarkable scientific revelations in the mid-1930s. They embraced continental drift at a time when it was decidedly out of vogue in the scientific community. They recognized the presence of a global supercontinent (Rodinia) and superocean (Mirovia), in existence on earth before Pangea.

(....)the concept of a billion-year-old supercontinent (the currently accepted age for the formation of Rodinia) that subsequently split apart, forming gradually widening ocean basins in which early marine life flourished, is unquestionably present in this book. (McMenamin 1998: 174)


Orthodox scientific arguments for such a proposal did not appear until the late 1960s, and a pre-Pangea supercontinent was never described until Valentine and Moores made the attempt in 1970. The Urantia Corps not only had the age of the formation of Rodinia approximately correct at 1 billion years, but they also were first to link breakup of Rodinia to the emergence of animals (even if the mode of appearance was implantation by extraterrestrials). Furthermore, they even got the timing of that approximately correct at 650 to 600 million years ago ("These inland seas of olden times were truly the cradle of evolution"). (McMenamin 1998: 174-175)

I obtained a copy of the book from the Smith College library and noted the 1955 (eighth edition 1984) publication date. What could possibly explain such precocious insight from such an unexpected corner? (McMenamin 1998: 175)


(....) [O]ne wonders how the Urantia Book authors arrived at the concept of a Proterozoic supercontinent, and the link between breakup of this supercontinent and the emergence of complex life in the ensuing rift oceans, 30 years before most geologists accepted continental drift and nearly four decades before scientists had any inkling that Rodinia existed. The anonymous authors responsible for the critical part of section 3 evidently possessed a high level of geological training, and while writing in the 1930s must have known of Wegener’s ideas on continental drift.... Whatever the identity of the author, this person proceeded to speculate about the relationship between evolutionary change and the breakup of a Proterozoic supercontinent in an exceptionally fruitful way. Perhaps this was because the thought and the writing of this person were not fettered by the normal constraints of the (too often highly politicized) scientific review process. (McMenamin 1998: 175-176)

Cases such as this one (which is by no means unique) are an exercise in humility for me as a scientist. How can it be that discovery of Rodinia, plus a fairly sophisticated rendering of the evolutionary implications of the rifting of Rodinia, falls to an anonymous author engaging in a work of religious revelation decades before scientists find out anything about the subject? Perhaps this is an important aspect of religion-a creative denial of certain aspects of reality in order to access a deeper truth. (McMenamin 1998: 176)

I am not advocating an abandonment of a disciplined scientific peer review process, but I can’t help but wonder whether science would benefit by having scientists themselves or friends of science systematically scan the various nonscientific literatures for writings such as those appearing in The Urantia Book. Scientists would ordinarily ignore and dismiss such writings, but a discerning eye might pick up some gems. (McMenamin 1998: 176)

The concept of Rodinia therefore has a shockingly unexpected intellectual pedigree. When does the concept finally enter the conventional scientific channels? In articles published in the early 1970s, James W. Valentine and Eldridge M. Moores traced the geological history of the continents and spoke of a Precambrian supercontinent.10 This continent was subsequently called proto-Pangea, pre-Pangea, Pangea I, the Late Proterozoic Supercontinent, ur-Pangea, or simply the Precambrian supercontinent. While writing The Emergence of Animals, Dianna McMenamin and I grew weary of these cumbersome names and proposed the name Rodinia for the ancient supercontinent. The corresponding superocean also needed a name, and we decided to call it Mirovia.... Curiously, The Urantia Book also refers to Mirovia, the "world ocean." (McMenamin 1998: 176- 177)

http://www.bizmota.com/wegener/mcmenamin/mcmenamin.pdf
Now I have no problem replacing the 1934 date with the 1955 date, for in fact this does not change the historical facts or truth of McMenamin's statements at all. And as the statements of an actual scientist whose expertise is in the field of Earth Sciences, clearly, Gardner chose to ignore this information too, which he was well aware of, and instead misrepresent the facts and truth for rhetorical purposes.

No scientist would long survive in any one of the scientific fields if they distorted and misrepresented the facts such as Gardner has done with regards to Bain's article; peer review would inevitably weed out such claptrap passed off as "careful" and "in-depth" research. And when it is done intentionally, as it was since Gardner was informed of the facts, but chose to ignore them, then one is left with no other option but to seriously question Gardner's credibility when it comes to the issue of his review of Bain's work and the Urantia Book as well. The tactics Gardner is using, omitting information, ignoring facts, distorting them and misquoting one's opponent, are the same tactics used by some Creationists in their arguments against evolution. Scientists correctly point this out as I have docuemented above, and point out the credibility issues these tactics raise.
Glasziou wrote:Gardner was aware that, by the 1980's, geologists had begun to shift Wegener's 'about 200 million years ago' proposal for commencement of breakup of a supercontinent to somewhere between 500 and 800 million years. He cannot deny his awareness since, in his book, he quotes from a paper on the science content of The Urantia Book which remarks on the book's claim for a 750 million years ago start of land mass break-up. Gardner attempts to divert attention from this remarkable "prediction" by claiming that Wegener's theory was acclaimed by some geologists in the early 1920's....

At the present time, geologists have now modified their views to a commencing time for drift at about 750 million years ago, the same as given in the Urantia Paper received in 1934. And now, in a letter to me dated Novemeber 21, 1995, Gardner acknowledges the convergence of those dates for commencement of drift but ignores their significance and again attempts to divert attention by referring to a statement in the book that 500 million years ago was the start of the long and slow westward drift of north and south America. Gardner says that this is twice the age assigned by geologists for this event.

However, once more Gardner has missed the boat. In the December issue (vol. 270, no. 5242) of the journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science we read, "Geologists have been mystified by the wanderings of North America during a crucial period 500 million years ago, when many of the life forms known today were evolving. Now a chunk of crust in western Argentina is turning out to be North America's calling card. Dropped off in western South America nearly 500 million years ago, it pins down the errant North America to within a few thousand kilometers of South America's west coast."

-- Ken Glasziou, Cosmic Reflections. A response to some of the Gardner criticisms. Innerface, vol. 3 no. 1.
Gardner was fully informed of the relevant facts; he just chose to ignore them. Honest criticism, fair and balanced criticism, which acknowledges facts, is one thing; but it is less than forthright to distort facts, omit information, and to otherwise misrepresent the facts relevant to any issue.
Half Truths (Suppressed Evidence): Any statement usually intended to deceive that omits some of the facts necessary for an accurate description.
UB wrote:Falsehood is not a matter of narration technique but something premeditated as a perversion of truth.... The shadow of a hair's turning, premeditated for an untrue purpose, the slightest twisting or perversion of that which is principle--these constitute falseness. (555.1)

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More of Gardner's misquotes, falsehoods, and distortions

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I agree it is good to debunk bogus pseudo-science. At the same time, I think most people would agree that in any critique being factually accurate, fair, and honest to context is important; and therefore, when quoting, summarizing, and paraphrasing from an original source one should do so accurately, fairly, and in context to assure one does not distort the original sources meaning in any way by adding or subtracting from it.

In Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery, on pages 206-09 Gardner states (my emphasis):
Gardner wrote:[What] most surprised me had to do with the exact dates of a famous conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter. It occurred in 7 B.C. in the constellation of Pisces. The UB (1352) says that these conjunctions gave the appearance of a single star which in turn gave rise to the legend of the Star of Bethlehem, as recounted only in the gospel of Matthew. It was this ‘star’ that seemed to guide the three Wise Men to the spot where Jesus was born…. Unfortunately, the two planets were never close enough to appear as a single star.
British astronomer Charles Pritchard noted that at no time during the three conjunctions were Jupiter and Saturn closer than two diameters of the moon as seen in the sky. To quote Gardner (my emphasis):
Gardner wrote:’Even with … the strange postulate of someone with weak eyes, the planets could not have appeared as one star, for they never approached each other within double the apparent diameter of the moon’ (Andrews, p. 8 ). ‘Only an abysmally weak pair of eyes could have ever merged them,’ was how Marshall put it. This has always counted strongly against the guess that Saturn-Jupiter triple conjunction was the basis for the Bethlehem Star legend. It also counts strongly against the credibility of the UB.
In Did Adam and Eve Have Navels on page 42 Gardner states (my emphasis):
Gardner wrote:On page 1352 of the Urantia Book we learn that the Jupiter-Saturn encounter of May 29, 7 B.C., gave the appearance of a single star, which we know it didn't, and this accounts for what the supermortals call the "beautiful legend" that grew up about the "Star."
Later in Did Adam and Eve Have Navels Gardner refers to the Star of Bethlehem as a legend or beautiful myth, and states on page 44:
Gardner wrote:In my not-so-humble opinion, the story of the Star is pure myth, similar to many ancient legends about the miraculous appearance of a star to herald a great event, such as the birth of Caesar, Pythagoras, Krishna (the Hindu savior), and other famous persons and deities.
As the full quotation of the paragraph below shows, this is essentially what the paragraph in question in the Urantia Book is saying; that there was no Star of Bethlehem, it was only a myth, a legend, albeit a beautiful one, and that ancient man was “continually spinning such beautiful myths about the lives of their religious leaders and political heroes.”

The actual and complete paragraph in the Urantia Book states:
UB wrote:These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem. The beautiful legend of the star of Bethlehem originated in this way: Jesus was born August 21 at noon, 7 B.C. On May 29, 7 B.C., there occurred an extraordinary conjunction of Jupiter and Saturn in the constellation of Pisces. And it is a remarkable astronomic fact that similar conjunctions occurred on September 29 and December 5 of the same year. Upon the basis of these extraordinary but wholly natural events the well-meaning zealots of the succeeding generation constructed the appealing legend of the star of Bethlehem and the adoring Magi led thereby to the manger, where they beheld and worshiped the newborn babe. Oriental and near-Oriental minds delight in fairy stories, and they are continually spinning such beautiful myths about the lives of their religious leaders and political heroes. In the absence of printing, when most human knowledge was passed by word of mouth from one generation to another, it was very easy for myths to become traditions and for traditions eventually to become accepted as facts.” (Urantia Book 1352)
Gardner's statement above implies that the Urantia Book claims “the Jupiter-Saturn encounter of May 29, 7 B.C., gave the appearance of a single star…” This is false and a distortion of the actual paragraph’s meaning. The first sentence in the paragraph states clearly “These wise men saw no star to guide them to Bethlehem.” Nowhere in the paragraph in question is it stated that the Jupiter-Saturn encounter gave the appearance of a single star. There is no statement in the Urantia Book that the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction “gave the appearance of a single star.” This appears to indicate that Gardner has misquoted the Urantia Book by adding information that was not in the original source and omitting information, the first sentence of the paragraph in question, which contradicts his own fallacious statement. Gardner then goes on to use his own false statement as a basis upon which to criticize the Urantia Book, by stating “which we know it didn’t.” I fail to see how this erroneous quotation, which falls short of even minimal accuracy and fairness, furthers the cause of good science or journalism. Gardner claims to have "carefully" and "in depth" reviewed the Urantia Book, yet he has failed to even get his facts correct when reviewing the paragraph above. As Charles Pritichard states, "Only an abysmally weak pair of eyes could have ever merged" the factual statement made in the Urantia Book with Gardner's gross distortion and misquotation, and as Gardner himself says, this "counts strongly against the credibility" of his claim that he "carefully" reviewed the Urantia Book "in depth."

In Gardner’s “not-so-humble opinion” the story of the Star of Bethlehem is only a myth similar to many ancient legends about famous persons and deities. This is essentially what the Urantia Book is saying in the paragraph in question, which leads me to ask, why would Gardner overlook this and instead distort the paragraph’s meaning by misquoting it and then go on to make the same point? Did he simply repeat the story of some over zealous reader without checking the facts? Whatever the reason, perhaps Gardner should exercise a little more caution (and less hubris) by actually reading the source he is quoting, and at a minimum attempt to quote it fairly, accurately, and in context. Such creative use of paraphrasing counts strongly against Gardner’s journalistic credibility.

Of interesting note is Gardner’s reply when this gross misquote was brought to his attention. His reply on the CSICOP web site was:
Gardner wrote:The writer is correct. The Urantia Book does not state that the conjunction gave the appearance of a single star. However, it was widely believed by Christian scholars, especially in Germany, that the conjunction appeared as the Star of Bethlehem. See pages 206-208 of my Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery (Prometheus Books) for a full discussion of this misconception.

-- http://www.csicop.org/si/9911/gardner.html
What does the fact that Christian scholars may have believed the conjunction appeared as a single star have to do with the Urantia Book, which clearly makes no such statement? Absolutely nothing, except for the fact that Gardner chooses to violate good journalistic standards by printing such a gross misquote and baseless falsehood, which is only one of many other such gross misquotes and falsehoods.

Gardner's response reminds me of the creationist Henry Morris when it was pointed out to him how he had misquoted an article in the journal Geology in his book Science, Scripture, and the Young Earth, on page 12:
Morris wrote:The catfish range in length from 11 to 24 cm., with a mean of 18 cm. Preservation is excellent. In some specimens, even the skin and other soft parts, including the adipose fin, are well preserved ..... strongly suggests that the catfish could have been transported to their site of fossilization.
The actual article in the journal Geology by Buccheim and Surdam reads:
Buccheim and Surdam wrote:The abundant and widespread occurrence of skeletons of bottom feeders, some with soft fleshy skin intact, strongly suggests that the catfish were a resident population. It is highly improbable that the catfish could have been transported to their site of fossilization. Experiments and observations made on various species of fish have shown that fish decompose and disarticulate after only very short distances of transport (Shafer, 1972).
Karl Fezer discovered this, and wrote a critique, which he sent to Morris for comment. This resulted in the following "correction" in Acts & Facts (vol. 12, no. 11, p. 6) (my italics on final sentence):
Fezer wrote:CORRECTION: Readers who may have purchased the booklet, Science, Scripture, and the Young Earth, announced in the August issue of Acts & Facts, should make the following correction: on page 12, delete lines 18 and 19. A section which was inadvertently omitted in this quotation (from an article in Geology by Buccheim and Surdam) inverts the authors' intended meaning. However, the argument being advanced in this section by the booklet's author, Dr. Henry Morris, is not affected by this correction.
It is apparent the ‘inverting of the authors’ intended meaning’ certainly did affect the credibility of Morris’ argument. Similarly, Gardner's argument in GCM, which ‘inverts’ the Urantia Book’s paragraph in question from the original meaning to the false statement that the Jupiter-Saturn conjunction “gave the appearance of a single star,” and then claims this “counts strongly against the credibility of the UB,” says more about the credibility of Gardner’s research than anything about the Urantia Book.

Gardner has made his career as a journalist and author. His writings have championed the truth of clear reason informed by sound science, and exposed the false and misguided logical fallacies so often used by those who espouse such pseudo-scientific beliefs as PKI and Creationism. As a professional writer and journalist, having been trained in philosophy, Gardner should be well acquainted with those all essential journalistic standards of accuracy, integrity, and fairness.
Hall wrote:Accuracy demands that the information conforms to reality and is not misleading or false. It demands not only careful and thorough research, but a disciplined use of language. Integrity demands that the information is truthful; not distorted to justify a conclusion. Fairness demands the information reports or reflects equitably the relevant facts and significant points of view; it deals fairly and ethically with persons, institutions, issues, and events.

-- David Hall, DePauw University Examines the Question Readers Fairly Ask: Can Journalists Get Things Right, And Fairly Right? Intellectual Honesty Poses the Test. Reporting Standards: Reflections by DePauw University. Directions in Journalism. Vol. 1, No. 1, April 2, 2002. And Journalistic Standards and Practices. CBC Canada, 2001.
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Again you misrepresent Gardner and his arguments. I don't know if this because you are biased and looking for mistakes that you you can use to question his "credibility" and therefor debunk his whole book and assessment of the UB's origins. I think there is a fallacy you are trying to commit with your misunderstanding and biased critical reading.
The point of Gardner's Chapter "science in the Urantia Book, Part II" is that the Inventers and editors of the UB papers used knowledge of the times and other people(sources) to plagiarize giving credit to "supermortals". It is interesting when the "supermortals" give knowledge it is not suppose to be unearned knowledge this is suppose to get them off the hook for knowledge we don't know yet and they don't bother explaining. If they get it wrong that is ok because they were either being funny or limiting to our understanding. It is funny that it is not ok to give us unearned knowledge unless it is wrong. Unearned bad knowledge is ok. But even when they admit their failure in science they want us to understand unearned reveled spiritual knowledge.
Back to gardner and the star controversy. In his book he was showing possible sources of the star dates supposedly given by the "supermortals".
His discussion of the date is what he is talking about not the poor eyes theory. Here he was clearly talking about others explanations. That the UB picked that date is why and what he is talking about. You misrepresent what he said even if you quoted him correctly. The subject was the dates you took two quotes and related them about two different points and sources. We are not going to have to read two posts on conjunctions are we? :sleep:
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What does the fact that Christian scholars may have believed the conjunction appeared as a single star have to do with the Urantia Book, which clearly makes no such statement? Absolutely nothing, except for the fact that Gardner chooses to violate good journalistic standards by printing such a gross misquote and baseless falsehood, which is only one of many other such gross misquotes and falsehoods.
His point was not the conjunctions but the date and it sources. The story about poor eyesight was another source altogether.
Whatever the reason, perhaps Gardner should exercise a little more caution (and less hubris) by actually reading the source he is quoting, and at a minimum attempt to quote it fairly, accurately, and in context. Such creative use of paraphrasing counts strongly against Gardner’s journalistic credibility.
Does this go for your reading too?

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The Topic of This Thread is ...

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Otseng wrote:I've been asked by Rob to keep this thread on topic. Which I think is a reasonable request. So, to reiterate the thread question:
Rob wrote:The question is, did Gardner "carefully [and] in depth" evaluate the Urantia Book, did he get his "facts" correct, the very facts he uses to reach his conclusions? In other words, did he build upon "reliable authentic data or is the author going off on some wild tangent?"
The title of this thread is: "Martin Gardner's Review of The Urantia Book: Did Gardner really "carefully" and "in depth" Examine it?" It is not, I note, "Martin Gardner's Review of" what Bain et. al. or anyone else said ABOUT the Urantia Book.

To the extent that Gardner makes statements that misrepresent facts (i.e., the history of continental drift), misquote statements (i.e., from either the UB or others), and purposely ignores relevant information to the topic of this thread, it will be noted.

It is also relevant to this thread when Gardner critiques some individual's statements or beliefs, and then equates them with what the Urantia Book teaches when in fact it is not true. In other words, one of the tactics Gardner uses, is to find groups or individuals who have associated themselves with the Urantia Book, who hold beliefs or practices that are not supported in the Urantia Book, such as the use of drugs, but because Gardner is either too ignorant and careless or knowingly seeks to impugn the book he conflates the two and thereby distorts and misrepresents what the book actually teaches. And I will provide evidence of this from Gardner's own words.

Gardner, in reviewing Bain et. al. (or any other individual) was reviewing two different sources: 1) What does the book itself state, and 2) What did Bain et al. (or others) say about the book. The topic of this thread is about Gardner's review of the Urantia Book, and whether or not he got his facts right with regards to what the book actually states. Gardner conflates and confuses these two throughout his book, but that is not so surprising considering by his own admission he did not read the book and therefore would be unable to distinguish between the two; and the fact that he does so indicates his inability to suspend his judgment long enough to be able to distinguish between what someone says about the book and what the book itself states.

Gardner routinely critiques individuals and their beliefs about the book or their statements about the book, conflating such statements about it as representative of its actual content, which may or may not be true. And this will be determined one fact, one example, one point, at a time, so as not to conflate or confuse the two, as Gardner and others frequently do.

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Gardner Resorts to Innuendo and Guilt by Association

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Sprunger wrote:Ad Hominem Fallacy. Since Gardner is apparently not interested in grappling with the spiritual content of Urantia Book teachings, he attacks the activities of people he assumes are associated with its origin or who are Urantia Book readers.

-- http://www.urantiabook.org/archive/news ... page6.html
In GCM Gardner frequently, rather than speaking to what the Urantia Book actually teaches (of course, how would he know, he never read it), would resort to the tactic of digging up some unsavory or controversial information on some unrepresentative individual(s), and then attempt to paint all readers of the Urantia Book with the same brush, and of course thereby imply via innuendo that the Urantia Book teaches or condones such behavior or beliefs. There are many individuals with bizarre beliefs associated with almost any group one can think of, from the Teaching Mission to groups that claim smoking pot is a sacrament supported by the the teachings of the Urantia Book, but they hardly represent the norm. In any case, this is a classical inductive fallacy -- use an unrepresentative sample to characterize the whole -- which anyone who has had an introductory course in logic should be able to recognize.

Gardner writes:
Gardner wrote:Although the Foundation was not involved, an amusing court case involving one Ira Mullins deserves mention because the UB played a significant role. In 1972 Mullins was arrested in Mendocino County, California, for growing marijuana on his property. He and his wife operated what they called the Universal Life Church of Christ Light. Mullens was the "pastor."

According to the California Reporter (Vol. 123, pages 201-209), Mullins claimed that the use of marijuana, LSD, and Payote, combined with reading the UB, had caused changes in his blood and brain, in turn inducing a transcendental state of "total and complete union with God and his Lord and Master Jesus." Church members sat in a circle puffing marijuana as a "sacrament" while they meditated on the attributes of Christ, and "read selected passages from The Urantia Book....

Mullins and his followers were not the first to combine UB studies with the sacramental puffing of marijuana. In the late 1960s a group of Urantians in Hawaii... became convinced that smoking hemp was a valuable sacrament.... Dennis Shields, a loyal member of this curious "church" ... defended its practice ... He said that smoking marijuana will bring Urantians "closer to God and God will be brought closer to those believers who choose to use hemp religiously." (GCM 360-1)
It is obvious that by including this information in his book Gardner's purpose is to disparage the Urantia Book. Once again, Gardner tries to find someone doing something bad associated with the Urantia Book and then disparage it by "association," no matter how tenuous, despite the fact that there are individuals of questionable behavior who associate themselves and misuse almost every cause or teaching one can name. This logical fallacy of "guilt by association" is especially egregious in that Gardner educated in philosophy and claiming to be a journalist should know better. Again, through careless research and/or professional neglect Gardner failed to note what the Urantia Book actually teaches (my italics):
UB wrote: The Adjuster [indwelling spirit] remains with you in all disaster and through every sickness which does not wholly destroy the mentality. But how unkind knowingly to defile or otherwise deliberately to pollute the physical body, which must serve as the earthly tabernacle of this marvelous gift from God. All physical poisons greatly retard the efforts of the Adjuster to exalt the material mind, while the mental poisons of fear, anger, envy, jealousy, suspicion, and intolerance likewise tremendously interfere with the spiritual progress of the evolving soul. (Urantia Book 1204)

It is to the mind of perfect poise, housed in a body of clean habits, stabilized neural energies, and balanced chemical function--when the physical, mental, and spiritual powers are in triune harmony of development--that a maximum of light and truth can be imparted with a minimum of temporal danger or risk to the real welfare of such a being. (Urantia Book 1209)

Intoxicants and drugs intrigued the primitive races. (Urantia Book 776: 9)

Primitive man could not distinguish between genius and insanity; idiots were either beaten to death or revered as fetish personalities. Hysteria increasingly confirmed the popular belief in witchcraft; epileptics often were priests and medicine men. Drunkenness was looked upon as a form of spirit possession; when a savage went on a spree, he put a leaf in his hair for the purpose of disavowing responsibility for his acts. Poisons and intoxicants became fetishes; they were deemed to be possessed. (Urantia Book 968: 4)
It is clear that the authors of the Urantia Book, whoever they might be, do not condone the use of drugs to achieve spiritual growth.
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More of Gardner's Half-Truths and Predjudiced Stereotypes

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Sprunger wrote:Ad Hominem Fallacy. Since Gardner is apparently not interested in grappling with the spiritual content of Urantia Book teachings, he attacks the activities of people he assumes are associated with its origin or who are Urantia Book readers.

-- http://www.urantiabook.org/archive/news ... page6.html

Gardner repeatedly makes unsupported claims, little more than stereotyped generalizations such as the following:
Gardner wrote:... many Urantians explode with unbelievable animosity whenever they encounter someone who dares question their belief." (GCM 131)

Many Urantians believe that Newbrough was under Caligastia's influence when he channeled Oahspe." (GCM 178)
Once again, Gardner fails to provide any evidence to support his claims, so naturally I wondered how "many Urantians" Gardner has met and what he bases these unsupported stereotypes upon. It is not that I don’t think it is possible for someone who reads the Urantia Book to ‘explode with unbelievable animosity,’ for its readership consists of a wide variety of individuals of various maturity levels; although I don’t believe this is representative of the typical reader. Rather, it is the way Gardner misrepresents the facts that I am critical of. After some quick research (entering the words “Urantia and Oahspe” in google.com’s search engine), I discovered a web site which shed some light on this question. The following link (www.urantianoldtimer.com/ernest.html) eventually led me to a Bud Kagan. In a phone conversation Bud explained to me how Martin Gardner sent him a draft of his manuscript for GCM, and asked Bud many questions regarding the Sadlers. Gardner's unpublished manuscript states the following about Ernest P. Moyer:
Gardner manuscript wrote: Moyer is one of the more energetic scriveners on the Urantian scene, though how seriously he is taken by other true believers is hard to say.

In addition to his Urantian faith, which he tirelessly promotes, Moyer believes a lot of other things—beliefs that disturb most of his brothers and sisters in the faith.

Moyer is also a ufologist. His interest in alien spacecraft predated his conversion to Urantianism, but after reading the UB he became persuaded that from Old Testament times until now Urantia has been periodically visited and observed by the very beings who wrote the UB. They arrive here from higher spaces in "seraphic transports" made of morontia, flying by techniques totally beyond our comprehension. Their ships are incapable or crashing. Stories about UFO crashes, Moyer insists, are all hoaxes.

Moyer believes that the celestial beings frequently abduct humans, mainly to study their sex organs and DNA molecules, perhaps to determine how far humanity has degenerated genetically…. The so-called "cattle mutilations," according to Moyer, are other efforts by the celestial beings to study Urantia's genetic history. Moyer also buys the view that the celestial visitors are trying to tell us something by creating England's crop circles. He grants that some of these circles are hoaxes produced by human pranksters, but almost of them are patterns he takes to be genuine messages from the higher entities.

Moyer is convinced that such works as OAHSPE came from Caligastia, as well as A Course in Miracles, the writings of Edgar Cayce, the Seth books of Jane Roberts, the channeled nonsense of J. Z. Knight and countless others on today's channeling scene.
Apparently it was Ernest P. Moyer who told Gardner that Newbrough was under Caligastia's influence. Note how Gardner, rather than citing his source, or at a minimum making it clear this was the statement of one individual and providing the relevant facts for context regarding Moyer's beliefs, many of which are original with Moyer himself and don’t represent the teachings of the Urantia Book or the views of the majority of readers of the Urantia Book, simply changes it to 'many Urantians,' which is clearly a conscious choice to misrepresent the facts and truth.

Gardner makes the following contradictory statements; he says on the one hand “how seriously he [Moyer] is taken by other true believers is hard to say,” and on the other hand “Moyer believes a lot of other things—-beliefs that disturb most of his brothers and sisters in the faith.”

Evidently Gardner is fully aware of how Moyer’s beliefs are viewed by ‘most’ readers of the Urantia Book, but prefers to twist the truth for some ulterior reason. What happened to Martin Gardner? What possible excuse is there for Gardner’s lack of journalistic standards?

In an email exchange I asked Moyer if he believed that Caligastia was the source Oahspe and he replied “Yes, Oahspe was dictated through Newbrough by the Devil.” Moyer shared that he exchanged over 40 letters with Gardner during the writing of GCM. When I asked Moyer if he was the source of Gardner’s statement that ‘many Urantians’ believe this, he replied he has no way of knowing how many readers of the Urantia Book Gardner consulted, but suspected he was the only one who told Gardner that Oahspe was dictated by Caligastia. As Gardner is so often fond of saying, which is more likely, that ‘many Urantians’ told Gardner that Oahspe was the work of Caligastia, or only one person—-Moyer? Gardner’s material on Moyer, which was in his unpublished manuscript, was either removed or edited as noted above.

Regarding Gardner’s use of such tactics, the following statement from the Urantia Book is particularly poignant:
UB wrote:Falsehood is not a matter of narration technique but something premeditated as a perversion of truth…. The shadow of a hair's turning, premeditated for an untrue purpose, the slightest twisting or perversion of that which is principle--these constitute falseness. (Urantia Book 555)
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More of Gardner's Careless Reseach, Distortion, Misquotes

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It is clear Gardner was consistently careless in his research and repeatedly failed to confirm if the claims he was making were true.

For example, Gardner makes the assertion that readers of the Urantia Book worship angels, though none are specified and he neglects to document any evidence for such a claim:
Gardner wrote:From time to time cults arose in which angels were worshiped. Many churches were dedicated to individual angels, especially Michael. Angelotry is still prevalent, and not just among Urantians. (GCM 192)
It would not have taken a lot of research to determine whether or not the Urantia Book teaches “angelotry,” by which he means the worship or adoration of angles. I found the following statement in the Urantia Book regarding the worship of angels:
UB wrote:You do well to love them, but you should not adore them; angels are not objects of worship. The great seraphim, Loyalatia, when your seer "fell down to worship before the feet of the angel," said: "See that you do it not; I am a fellow servant with you and with your races, who are all enjoined to worship God." (Urantia Book 419)
The first sentence is unequivocal—angels are not and should not be objects of worship. My question is why did he neglect the paragraph above? His book is obviously a critique of the Urantia Book, which in itself I have no problem with, but rather than speak to what the Urantia Book actually teaches, he resorts once again (as he does repeatedly) to the tactic of digging up some unsavory or controversial information on some unrepresentative individual(s), and then attempts to paint all readers of the Urantia Book with the same brush. As has been already noted, this is a classical inductive fallacy—use an unrepresentative sample to characterize the whole—which anyone who has had an introductory course in logic should be able to recognize.

In truth, there are so many more examples just like the ones above, that it is painfully obvious that a pattern is developing here. It is no surprise that pseudoskeptics would ignore these repeated careless misquotes, and what are obviously in some cases on Gardner's part outright knowingly half-truths and distortion of fact.

As I noted above, Gardner engaged in actually two reviews; one, he reviewed what readers of the Urantia Book said or believed about it, and two, he in some cases reviewed the actual content of the book, and in many cases he conflated and confused the two.

For the record, in some cases where Gardner critiqued what other readers said or believed about the Urantia Book, I agree with him, and would level the same critique myself, and have done so. But that is not the topic of this thread, which is: Was Gardner's critique of the Urantia Book factually correct?

It is not factually correct to quote Moyer and then ascribe such a belief or teaching to the Urantia Book (or "many" readers) if it (or they) actually do not make such a claim or proposition; it is not factually correct to quote some reader who worships angels and then claim the Urantia Book teaches such a belief; but nevertheless, this is what Gardner repeatedly does in GCM.

I note that Gardner cites no source or proof that "Urantians" engage in angelotry. This is called innuendo and rumor; little more than an attempt to ascribe to the Urantia Book a teaching or practice it does not condone, or to paint with a predjudiced stereotype an entire group of people. This is not only a violation of journalistic standards, it is little more than tabloid journalism, rumor mongering, innuendo, and gossip. It is a trifling skeptic that claims they can "carefully" review "in depth" any book the size of the Urantia Book and which contains the scope of its content, without reading it. But of course, trifling skeptics and carping critics will easily overlook Gardner's repeated professional and ethical lapses, which they minimize and nevertheless make an "appeal to authority" that he "carefully" and "in depth" reviewed the Urantia Book without taking a moment to either check Gardner's sources (or note the lack thereof) or what the Urantia Book actually states, for they are operating upon a priori dogmatic presuppostions and fallacious reasoning.
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This thread!
Funny how you have misunderstood Gardners arguments. He is saying the science was wrong and he showed the sources of data. He also complained that they say they can receive false "unearned" data from the "supermortals".
I already pointed out that you have confused his argument and by looking for some trite remark you found. Then you took what he said about a theory that some offered to explain the conjunction and said he said it was from the UB. He was talking about the UB date and it's source. The passages you cited were two different sources and explanations. It was the date that was the point.
But then who cares, if you can't stick to the point of the argument, or the datas source.
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