Hand cutting law

[agnosticatheist]

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Topic: The Hand cutting law in Deuteronomy 25:11-12


Deuteronomy 25:11-12, ESV: "11 When men fight with one another and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, 12 then you shall cut off her hand. Your eye shall have no pity.

Is this evil?

Christians: Think about that being done to your wife, daughters, or mother.

The Punishment

Who would have been responsible for cutting the woman's hand off? The priests? The husband of the wife? Members of the community? Some combination of those three?

How would the punishment administers have carried out the punishment? Slice it off? Hack it off?

Would the woman have been conscious or unconscious while the punishment was being administered?

If she was conscious, think about her screaming out in pain, especially if it was sliced off.....Think about the psychological trauma this could have caused. Think about the flashbacks and nightmares she potentially could have dealt with.

What if her children were present while she was being punished? Can you imagine what that would do to a child, to see their mother having her hand cut off?

The worst part of this whole passage may not even be the hand cutting, but rather the phrase "Your eye shall have no pity." Seriously? What is wrong with the Christian God???

Does the punishment even fit the crime?

If she had simply grabbed him by the private parts without any damage to his private parts, how is cutting her hand off an appropriate and fitting punishment?

If she had grabbed him by the private parts and caused damage, and there just HAD to be a punishment, wouldn't a more appropriate and fitting punishment have been to cut off her breasts (externally, the breasts are somewhat, if not exactly, analogous to the testicles) and/or to cut out her womb? But, that's even more horrific and brutal than the punishment that is in Deuteronomy 25:11-12.

Post-punishment life

I think some of us, especially some Christians (who, unlike secularists on this board, see men and women as vastly different creatures, and with inherently separate roles and genetic makeup), would agree that females are much more delicate and fragile creatures than males, and so they are much more prone to being traumatized and suffering lifelong afteraffects of an event like having their friggin hand cut off.

The woman is now missing a hand. The woman and/or her husband would have to explain to their children why their mom is missing a hand...

I was sad and depressed enough as a kid when my mom was in the hospital birthing my siblings...I can't imagine what it would have been like for her to come home one day missing a hand...

My mother is one of the most beautiful women I have ever known, especially for her age these days, and let me tell you sorry, pathetic cowards who are going to try to defend this crap, if I had found out some community members had mutilated her like that, and in that manner, I would feel compelled to "go postal" on them...I wouldn't, because that would just make an already bad situation worse, but I hope that gives you an idea of how messed up this is to me. I hope you would feel the same way if it was your wife, daughter, or mother.

This command creates all kinds of problems; it affects the woman's ability to be a homemaker (super important back then), care for her children, and participate in sex with her husband. Not to mention the fact that for her personally, her everyday life is made more difficult, she has to look daily at her mutilation, and will be reminded daily, by the mutilation, of the traumatic punishment event itself...

Concluding remarks

Christians, if it has never been apparent in your life before, it hopefully is now: Your god, if it is real and the Bible is accurate, IS NOT GOOD.

If the Christian God is real, I REFUSE to submit and bow to it, let alone love it and worship it.

I would die before I would let this happen to my wife, daughter, or mother.

If I were the male who's private parts had been grabbed, I would not want the woman to be punished in this manner, regardless of whether or not my private parts had been damaged. Like in the above sentence, I would die before I would let this happen to her.

If people actually read and comprehend this post, this post may be the death knell for the religion of many people on this post. If that is the case, I am truly sorry, but you need to be made aware of this. This evil garbage needs to be brought to light.

Yes, I am appealing to a moral standard by talking about evil and this being horrific. Yes, there may indeed be a good god, but I can tell you right now, Deuteronomy 25:11-12 is not from a good god.

[agnosticatheist]

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Laws were given to convict us of sin Romans 3:20 ...rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin. Romans 7:7... I would not have known what sin was had it not been for the law.

We cleared of our sin not by the law being given but by our inability to keep it. Whatever HIS reason for instituting this law, it also has the purpose of convicting those who will not keep it of their sin before HIM.

So this makes it ok to cut a woman's hand off, stone a woman to death at her father's doorstep, and force a woman to drink dust from a floor?

I thought this list might be useful to some of my old friends here.

Bully Bingo: 52 Signs Someone Will Say Anything to Win an Argument

Fake pity, morality policing and mock interrogation are just a few tell-tale indicators. By Jeremy Sherman / AlterNet

31. Over-reactive shaming:

It is wrong to cut off a woman's hand, stone a woman to death at her father's door, and cause a woman's reproductive organs to shrivel up and/or fall out.

If it was any other religion, you would be condemning that stuff as brutal, barbaric, heinous, cruel, reprehensible, evil, etc. Stop hiding behind the emotional attack and over-reaction attack. I cannot make it simpler. It is wrong. You would have a problem with this if it was any other religion.

The stuff I have mentioned that God has commanded is wrong. The fact that God commands it does not suddenly make it ok. It is wrong, period. So, this means either God is good and did not command that stuff, or God is evil and did command that stuff.