I have posted what I think is the single most important issue to debate.
To me, the second most important issue is this. If there is a God, how do I determine what God requires of me? If your answer involves something that is from human agency, a book or an organization, then the question remains, "How do I know that the book's authors or the organization's leaders authoritatively speak for God?"
How do I determine what God requires of me?
How do I determine what God requires of me?
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How do I determine what God requires of me?
Post #1Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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PM From olavisjo
To: McCulloch
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:39 am
Subject: You have received a donation from olavisjo
By the powers invested in me by all that is holy, I solemnly declare that the person using the online name of olavisjo on the debatingchristianity website will have an eternal afterlife in complete bliss.
Anyone else want an eternal afterlife of complete bliss?
To: McCulloch
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:39 am
Subject: You have received a donation from olavisjo
Going the second mile, eh?olavisjo has donated 700 tokens to you.
You are awesome, don't ever let anyone convince you other wise.
By the powers invested in me by all that is holy, I solemnly declare that the person using the online name of olavisjo on the debatingchristianity website will have an eternal afterlife in complete bliss.
Anyone else want an eternal afterlife of complete bliss?
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Post #22
No thank you. I was however wondering if I could sell your eternal life plan on your behalf? I will let you have a percentage of my earnings if you agree.McCulloch wrote:PM From olavisjo
To: McCulloch
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:39 am
Subject: You have received a donation from olavisjo
Going the second mile, eh?olavisjo has donated 700 tokens to you.
You are awesome, don't ever let anyone convince you other wise.
By the powers invested in me by all that is holy, I solemnly declare that the person using the online name of olavisjo on the debatingchristianity website will have an eternal afterlife in complete bliss.
Anyone else want an eternal afterlife of complete bliss?
If not then I will have to start a 10% better after life guarantee. That way my hell will be hellier and heaven will be heavenier no matter what you offer. Guaranteed!!!
Re: How do I determine what God requires of me?
Post #23I was a lost teenager when I started, I had no idea what I was getting myself into.McCulloch wrote: Mine isn't. So you have a reason to believe and I don't.
That is even better, now make it happen.McCulloch wrote: How about this, "I don't believe in you, but if you exist I give you permission to do with it whatever you have to do to make me a believer. If there is any sin in me that separates us, I ask you to forgive me in whatever way you can. Please God convince me that you exist and guide me to know your will for my life."
Why did you choose 600?McCulloch wrote:McCulloch wrote: Donate 600 tokens to me and I will grant you eternal life in complete bliss after you die. What have you got to lose? How do you know that I don't have the ability to grant this?To the left of this post, there is a tally of the number of tokens you have. Click on Donate and send me 600 of your tokens. I will in exchange promise that you will have an eternal afterlife of bliss.olavisjo wrote:What is 600 tokens? I am willing to lay down my life for you, if that is what it takes.
I barely have that much, do you want to bankrupt me?
Re: How do I determine what God requires of me?
Post #24McCulloch wrote:
Donate 600 tokens to me and I will grant you eternal life in complete bliss after you die. What have you got to lose? How do you know that I don't have the ability to grant this?
I will grant you eternal life in complete bliss for 500 tokens and throw in the promise that by giving it to me, it will come back to you three-fold*
*Offer void where common sense prohibits.
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Re: How do I determine what God requires of me?
Post #25Doneolavisjo wrote:That is even better, now make it happen.
Completely arbitrary. I am trying to make a point, in a kind of a fun way. Do you really believe that I can grant an eternal afterlife of total bliss? [rhetorical question] Why should I believe the writers of the NT that they have the key to the afterlife? [real question]olavisjo wrote:Why did you choose 600?
Note for realthinker: for you, drink coffee or tea for three days in a row without sugar, milk, cream or lemon. Then you will be guaranteed an eternal afterlife of bliss.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
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Post #26
From: goat
To: McCulloch
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:43 pm
Subject: You have recieved a donation from goat
To: McCulloch
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:43 pm
Subject: You have recieved a donation from goat
By the powers invested in me by all that is holy, I solemnly declare that the person using the online name of goat on the debatingchristianity website will have an eternal afterlife in complete orgasmic bliss.goat has donated 666 tokens to you.
I think this is a much more appropriate number for getting eternal bliss.
Examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good.
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
First Epistle to the Church of the Thessalonians
The truth will make you free.
Gospel of John
Re: How do I determine what God requires of me?
Post #27You have just begun the greatest adventure of your eternal life, and you can't even imagine where it will lead.McCulloch wrote: Done
Things are going to happen in your life and you will see the world through new eyes.1 Corinthians 2:9 wrote: 9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him.
One word of warning though, you have also gained a new enemy, who will try his best to make sure that you will not exercise your rights as one who belongs to God, but God will get you through it all.
If you have any needs feel free to e-mail me at olavisjo@yahoo dot comJude 1:24 wrote: 24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
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Post #28
*American accent* Boy, I sure am looking forward to McCulloch's posts later on. McCulloch, have you been touched by the powah of Jeeesus?
''''What I am is good enough if I can only be it openly.''''
''''The man said "why you think you here?" I said "I got no idea".''''
''''Je viens comme un chat
Par la nuit si noire.
Tu attends, et je tombe
Dans tes ailes blanches,
Et je vole,
Et je coule
Comme une plume.''''
''''The man said "why you think you here?" I said "I got no idea".''''
''''Je viens comme un chat
Par la nuit si noire.
Tu attends, et je tombe
Dans tes ailes blanches,
Et je vole,
Et je coule
Comme une plume.''''
Post #29
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:hUg ... bucket.comFallibleone wrote:*American accent* Boy, I sure am looking forward to McCulloch's posts later on. McCulloch, have you been touched by the powah of Jeeesus?
Post #30
Fallibleone, why are you a #6, rather than a #7, on the Dawkins scale and what prevents you from entering into a saving relationship with Jesus that would allow you to live forever with him?Fallibleone wrote:*American accent* Boy, I sure am looking forward to McCulloch's posts later on. McCulloch, have you been touched by the powah of Jeeesus?