Are there any evidence that Jesus rose from the dead?

[otseng]

One of the key beliefs of Christianity that sets it apart from all other religions is that Jesus rose from the dead. No other religious founder has risen from the dead.

The Bible is clear that Jesus rose from the dead. But, are there any other evidence that Jesus was resurrected from the dead?

[canadianhorsefan]

(pbuh) means Peace Be Upon Him. I say that because he is a prophet of Allah.

My supporting evidence? The Qur'an, of course. It says very clearly in one of the Surahs that he wasn't crucified.

canadianhorsefan

[lifeisboring]

One of the key beliefs of Christianity that sets it apart from all other religions is that Jesus rose from the dead. No other religious founder has risen from the dead.

The Bible is clear that Jesus rose from the dead. But, are there any other evidence that Jesus was resurrected from the dead?

If you questioning the reliablability of that, you need to look at the whole Bible, man.

[Cathar1950]

We Just don't know do we? I don't think Jesus had to fake his death to be revived. It is possible. They may not of had his body to produce because as one person wrote dogs might have ate it or no one knew where it was or it got moved stolen or lost. I don't trust the Gospels but I don't trust the Koran either. Come to think of it I don't trust the Hebrew writings.
They are all human writings what ever your beliefs are.
Now The Gospels came after Paul and are Pauline. So if we go to Paul we see he had visions of the Christ. It would not have mattered if there was a body or not. For him Jesus was the glorified Christ and Christians were a part of that mystical body. Each member died and arose with Christ during baptism and was not part of that resurrection. Paul says Peter and James and the rest all had visions of Jesus like he did. Now the Gospels make it some kind of body resurrection maybe because they misunderstood or wanted to give the visions a body, we don't know.
It may all be Paul's imagination and what his church make of it.
I doubt any other writing were by any of the disciples and all the unknown writers seem to follow Paul's lead. Yes I do think there was influences from the mystery religions.
canadianhorsefan where did you get that running horse? I want an avatar that is a limping old man.

[Nick Hallandale]

Dear Truth Seekers,
There seems to be contradiction in the NT as to what kind of body Jesus was resurrected with.
John 2:19-22
19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

21But he spake of the temple of his body.

22When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.

Jesus is saying that he will raise up his body and his disciples knew about it.

But Peter who is supposed to be an eyewitness contradicts Jesus concerning body type at 1Peter 3:18
18For Christ also died for sins once for all, the just for the unjust, so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the spirit;

Paul also contradicts Jesus 1Corinthians 15:45
45So also it is written, "The first MAN, Adam, BECAME A LIVING SOUL " The last Adam became a life-giving spirit.
So did Jesus resurrect as a spirit or with a flesh body?

In the Scripture John 2:22 , previously quoted, it says""22When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.""
But this is contradicted at John 20:9
9For as yet they did not understand the Scripture, that He must rise again from the dead.
So did the disciples know or not?

In John 2:19, previously quoted, Jesus says "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. ""
But Paul says at Romans 10:9
9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
So did Jesus raise himself or did God raise him?

It is tough to believe a story with so many contradictions.

Hallandale

[harvey1]

It is tough to believe a story with so many contradictions.

The earliest accounts of Jesus' resurrection come from Paul. The Gospels, from what we can tell, were written many years later after Paul, and by then the Gnostic tradition had evolved to challenge the forms of early Christianity.

One speculation is that the Christian movement was based partly on the attributed teachings of the historical Jesus, partly on the received teachings through mysticism, and partly on the authority of an apostle who had saw the resurrected Jesus. The attributed teachings were probably becoming confused as more books were written which tried to state that some missing teachings of Jesus had just been located. So, that left mysticism and the direct experience of the resurrection as the way to enforce orthodoxy as to what was and wasn't a Christian (afterall, they didn't have the New Testament).

Since the Gnostics also had their own brand of mystic revelation, the only claim to orthodoxy that could be made was the sightings of Jesus after his resurrection. This also the Gnostics could claim as long as Paul's view of the resurrection as being a non-bodily image of Jesus. Therefore, second generation Christians who wished to maintain apostolic authority as being orthodox Christianity had no other choice but to push for the resurrection as being a bodily event. The fact that Thomas is the doubter in the story adds credibility to this speculation since the Thomas community is one of the main competitors to the John community for orthodoxy in the late first century.

Nevertheless, Paul was an eyewitness and knew the original apostles, so it is likely that Jesus' resurrection was a non-bodily resurrection.

[trencacloscas]

One of the key beliefs of Christianity that sets it apart from all other religions is that Jesus rose from the dead. No other religious founder has risen from the dead.

My only answer would be... "By the avatars of Krishna!!!"
The guy reincarnated so many times that I just cannot follow

[Nick Hallandale]

[
Nevertheless, Paul was an eyewitness and knew the original apostles, so it is likely that Jesus' resurrection was a non-bodily resurrection.[/quote]

But what does the Bible say to contradict that?
Many years after the resurrection of Jesus, the Apostle Paul
when writing about Jesus in Colossians 2:9, says......
""because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily""
Do you notice that Paul says "BODILY".......he didn't say .......
all the fullness of the divine quality dwells SPIRITUALLY.

But if that doesn't convince you' take a look at what Jesus said at John 2:19-22.
In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days
I will raise it up.” 20 Therefore the Jews said: “This temple was built in forty-six years,
and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was talking about the temple of his body.
Jesus said that he would raise up in three days HIS BODY.

Take a look at the gospels immediately after Jesus resurrection
At Luke 24:39, after the resurrection, Jesus affirms that he is not a
spirit..but he is in the flesh.
See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a
spirit
does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold that I have.”

At John 20:27, Jesus shows Thomas that he has a body.
27 Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and
take your hand
and stick it into my side, and stop being unbelieving but become believing

Hallandale

[Cephus]

One is that nobody has ever claimed to have found the body of Jesus. Especially not even during the first century. This would've been the easiest way to discredit early Christianity. Simply exhume the body and that would've been the end of it.

Who says nobody ever claimed to have found it? The RCC is well known to have destroyed anything they considered heretical, it's likely that there are many things that disproved Christianity that simply have not survived to this day. At best, we can say that we are unaware of anyone making that claim, not that the claim was never made at all.

Suppose though that the disciples stole the body and disposed of it so that nobody could ever find it. Why would they all be willing to die for the cause if they knew that they simply hid the body?

People are stupid? You find all kind of cases where people do things even though they know the reason they're doing them is untrue. Fanaticism doesn't conform to the rules of logic.

[harvey1]

But what does the Bible say to contradict that?
Many years after the resurrection of Jesus, the Apostle Paul
when writing about Jesus in Colossians 2:9, says......
""because it is in him that all the fullness of the divine quality dwells bodily""Do you notice that Paul says "BODILY".......he didn't say .......
all the fullness of the divine quality dwells SPIRITUALLY.

I didn't say that Paul thought of Jesus as a spirit being. Clearly he regarded Jesus as having lived a physical life. Although, Colossians is one of those books heavily disputed to have been written by Paul. It has a much more advanced Christology (e.g., figurative uses of the "body of Christ"), and even different style and vocabulary typical of Paul (e.g., 25 words not found in other Pauline letters). However, there's nothing that rules out Paul writing it, just peculiarities.

But if that doesn't convince you' take a look at what Jesus said at John 2:19-22. In answer Jesus said to them: “Break down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” 20 Therefore the Jews said: “This temple was built in forty-six years, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was talking about the temple of his body. Jesus said that he would raise up in three days HIS BODY.

As I mentioned, the Johannine literature is largely considered to be written when the Church was debating the authority of the apostolic traditions of the early church, so the Gospels may have become tainted by this. Just as a reference, the earliest Gospel believed to have been written was Mark, and the resurrection is presented quite differently:

Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country.(Mark 16:12)

Chapter 16 seems to end with Jesus' ascension (no Pentecost, etc.). There's nothing in the appearances to suggest that Jesus was a being of flesh. The Greek words used for "appeared" in Mark 16 are faino and faneroo, and it suggests a non-material sighting. Other Greek words are used to see something made of matter (e.g., orao). So, like I said, I think it is probable that the first Christians thought of Jesus' resurrection as a mystical experience.

Take a look at the gospels immediately after Jesus resurrection At Luke 24:39, after the resurrection, Jesus affirms that he is not a spirit..but he is in the flesh. See my hands and my feet, that it is I myself; feel me and see, because a spirit does not have flesh and bones just as YOU behold that I have.”

Again, Luke is largely considered to have been written later. For example, Luke talks about the virgin birth, but Paul knows nothing of a virgin birth. However, Luke is a disciple of Paul! So, this alone would suggest that Luke was written long after Paul had died.

At John 20:27, Jesus shows Thomas that he has a body. Next he said to Thomas: “Put your finger here, and see my hands, and take your hand and stick it into my side, and stop being unbelieving but become believing

Nick, did you read my post? I specifically mentioned this verse. Read it, please...

[Nick Hallandale]

Dear Truth Seekers,
Matthew 12:39
But He answered and said to them, " An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet;
Jesus is addressing his comment to""An evil and adulterous generation. ""
Surely he means people of the 1st century who were not his disciples.

So how come after the supposed resurrection of Jesus, the only people that he showed himself to were his own disciples?
Why didn't he show himself to the people of the ""evil and adulterous generation ""?

I think that this is actually a failed prophecy by a false prophet.
Hallandale
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