Give one reason or argument that God doesnt exist

[austin12345]

Try and give one reason philosophically or scientifically that God doesnt exist, but not one emotionally.

[olavisjo]

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Energy exists eternally according to all experimentation and observation, and never was nor could it ever have been created.

May I assume that you reject the second law of thermodynamics?

The 2LoT has nothing to do with the creation of energy.

• The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated
  system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve
  towards thermodynamic equilibrium—the state of maximum entropy.

If energy had existed eternally, as Tired of the Nonsense alluded to, then entropy would be infinite. The universe would have experienced "heat death" in the infinite past, and we would not be having this conversation.

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

[southern cross]

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Energy exists eternally according to all experimentation and observation, and never was nor could it ever have been created.

May I assume that you reject the second law of thermodynamics?

The 2LoT has nothing to do with the creation of energy.

• The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated
  system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve
  towards thermodynamic equilibrium—the state of maximum entropy.

If energy had existed eternally, as Tired of the Nonsense alluded to, then entropy would be infinite. The universe would have experienced "heat death" in the infinite past, and we would not be having this conversation.

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

Or this is not the first time our universe has existed?

[olavisjo]

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

Or this is not the first time our universe has existed?

Then the second law of thermodynamics is wrong as entropy would have been reset to a lower level.

[southern cross]

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

Or this is not the first time our universe has existed?

Then the second law of thermodynamics is wrong as entropy would have been reset to a lower level.

So now you need to determine whether or not the laws of thermodynamics are valid in that situation. Can you do that?

[olavisjo]

So now you need to determine whether or not the laws of thermodynamics are valid in that situation. Can you do that?

• The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated
  system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve
  towards thermodynamic equilibrium—the state of maximum entropy.

Notice the part about never decreases; if the universe begins to exist again with a lower entropy, then it did decrease entropy and the second law of thermodynamics is obviously not valid in that situation.

That is why I asked...

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Energy exists eternally according to all experimentation and observation, and never was nor could it ever have been created.

May I assume that you reject the second law of thermodynamics?

Because if entropy can be reset we must reject the second law of thermodynamics.

[Peter]

There is a few problems just skimming that article. First it commits a genetic fallacy which is showing the authenticity of a religion based on how it originated. Second all the points were opinionated and based on philosophical predispositions. For example the lack of great Apologetics. That is dependent on his opinion. I am a believer that Apologetics is great and has shown God to exist.

Also you cant prove God with arguements and science but you can point to its best explanation. I believe whole heartedly that all the science we have and philosophy points to a creator instead of away.

You asked for reasons to doubt the existence of gods or the christian god specifically. My unbiased opinion is that they are logically reasonable arguments. Since you are a christian who wishes to believe in a god I don't think you are capable of an unbiased opinion.

[PhiloKGB]

• The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated
  system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve
  towards thermodynamic equilibrium—the state of maximum entropy.

If energy had existed eternally, as Tired of the Nonsense alluded to, then entropy would be infinite. The universe would have experienced "heat death" in the infinite past, and we would not be having this conversation.

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

In order for a system to have 2LoT implications, one must be able to differentiate between *system* and *surroundings* such that an exchange of energy can take place between them. If the universe is even properly a system, the definitional absence of surroundings entail that it isn't a 2LoT compliant system.

[The Ex-Mormon]

Try and give one reason philosophically or scientifically that God doesnt exist, but not one emotionally.

No-one can prove it's existence.

Nobody can prove whether God exists, or whether he or she does not exist. As a Christian, you have to believe. Believing in an "invisible friend". This still may be quite funny in the childhood but not as adults!

[100%atheist]

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Energy exists eternally according to all experimentation and observation, and never was nor could it ever have been created.

May I assume that you reject the second law of thermodynamics?

The 2LoT has nothing to do with the creation of energy.

• The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated
  system never decreases, because isolated systems spontaneously evolve
  towards thermodynamic equilibrium—the state of maximum entropy.

If energy had existed eternally, as Tired of the Nonsense alluded to, then entropy would be infinite. The universe would have experienced "heat death" in the infinite past, and we would not be having this conversation.

So, either the second law of thermodynamics is wrong or energy has not existed eternally.

Two comments:
1) The entropy does not necessarily increase indefinetely. It can reach some maximum corresponding to the equilibrium. This is what is called the heat death of the universe. Note that the entropy is NOT infinite at equilibrium.
2) The universe expansion creates new space and new entropy, there are black holes and other interesting objecst around. The universe as a thermodynamic system has never been at equilibrium and its entropy is generally unknown.

[olavisjo]

In order for a system to have 2LoT implications, one must be able to differentiate between *system* and *surroundings* such that an exchange of energy can take place between them. If the universe is even properly a system, the definitional absence of surroundings entail that it isn't a 2LoT compliant system.

The universe is all that exists, if the universe has any surroundings then it is not the universe. The universe is a closed system because energy can't enter or exit the system. If the second law of thermodynamics does not apply to the universe then the law is wrong.