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Dad, mom ...I'm ...um, I'm gay

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The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?

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JoeyKnothead wrote: From Post 27:
Sir Hamilton wrote: Everything God does is according to His will.
Only don't it beat all, we can't tell God's will from that'n there a-swearin' up and down it ain't his own.
Could someone please translate that for me. :)

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From Post 31:
Sir Hamilton wrote: Everything God does is according to His will.
JoeyKnothead wrote: Only don't it beat all, we can't tell God's will from that'n there a-swearin' up and down it ain't his own.
Could someone please translate that for me. :smile:
"Y'all... y'all... y'all ain't gon' b'lieve it, I know ya ain't, but God himself done told me what it is he himself wants of all of ya."

"Only I can't prove it, y'all's just gotta take my word fer it."
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Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
Joab wrote:
Sir Hamilton wrote:
KCKID wrote: The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?
I would be disappointed and since they are my child then they would have known what i believed about homosexuality. I wouldn't have need of telling them how this lifestyle is sinful and rebellious to how the Creator intended mankind to live. I would tell them i love them and always will and will pray that they stop living that sinful lifestyle. :)
Why wouldn't you hug him/her and reassure them that that is the way god made them and god can do no wrong?
Who is god?
I was under the impression you knew that, have you lost your faith?
I know who God is, but I wasn't sure which god you were referring to...there are many gods. We're you referring to God?
You have a particular god don't you? It was your hypothetical response to your hypothetical child to which I referred.

I don't understand why you are having so much difficulty with it.
Yes I am a child of YHWH, the Most High God. And as to your original question...you will find the answer in my response to the original question of this thread.
Why wouldn't you hug him/her and reassure them that that is the way god made them and god can do no wrong?

Does your god not create everything, can your god do no wrong?
I won't find answers to these in your previous posts as you claim.
Answers to your questions in order.
Because i don't want to lie to my child. Yes YHWH is the Creator. Everything God does is according to His will. :)
You will need to point out the lie to me, if you would.

Is your god the creator of everything was the question.

Does your last sentence mean that your god can do wrong?

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Divine Insight wrote:
Of course, I came to the realization that Christianity itself doesn't wash even before I realized that homosexuals cannot be "sinners".

In fact, to be honest I can't understand why any Gay person would want to worship God through a religion that claims that God hates homosexuality. But the mere fact that many of them do seems to prove that they can't be "sinning against God" with any manner of intention.

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But for me, the fact that Christians cannot possibly be true came first. The realization that homosexuality could not possibly be a sin was something I realized quite some time later.

There is simply no way that homosexual couples are attracted to each other simply because they want to rebel against the directives of some God.

Their attraction for each other is obviously real.
Homosexual cannot be sinners? where did you pick that up from the bible or is it conjecture?

The Bibble is not gay friendly, everyone know about Sodom and Gomorrah (S&G).

Like someone who believes in god would actually try to rebel against him by being gay, obvious gays exist because they fancy the same sex. Those angels in S&G must have been super hot.

I doubt the people in S&G were rebelling against god, they did not believe in god so YOLO.

If i was a super Christain parent i would tell them, don't have sex i think that's were the sin is. Or let look for a manly body builder chick.

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Here is a very good article in my opinion, what a Christian should do if their child announces they are homosexual. I really don't think I will ever face that dilemma myself and feel for those that do. http://www.gotquestions.org/Christian-p ... ldren.html
Matthew 16:26
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26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

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According to Romans chapter one homosexuality is not rebellion against God, as Divine Insight suggests that the Bible claims. It is a result of rebellion against God. It does not say who's rebellion it is a result of. I believe it is a result of the rebellion of our forefathers. In the OT it states that God will visit the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. I believe the homosexual revolution we are experiencing now is a direct result of the rebellion against God in the 70's known as the sexual revolution.
Matthew 16:26
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26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

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Moses Yoder wrote: According to Romans chapter one homosexuality is not rebellion against God, as Divine Insight suggests that the Bible claims. It is a result of rebellion against God. It does not say who's rebellion it is a result of. I believe it is a result of the rebellion of our forefathers. In the OT it states that God will visit the sins of the fathers to the third and fourth generation. I believe the homosexual revolution we are experiencing now is a direct result of the rebellion against God in the 70's known as the sexual revolution.
WHAT the hell? God still curses descendent after the original sin? Its a bit messed up that your still born in sin if you parents are kinky.

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Sir Hamilton wrote:
KCKID wrote: The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?
I would be disappointed and since they are my child then they would have known what i believed about homosexuality. I wouldn't have need of telling them how this lifestyle is sinful and rebellious to how the Creator intended mankind to live. I would tell them i love them and always will and will pray that they stop living that sinful lifestyle. :)
What would their knowing what YOU believed in have anything to do with reality? Do you realize that your response to them would be to "shame" them? Telling them 'you love' them while telling them they are 'sinful and rebellious' is a conflicting message that tells your children that your personal opinions are more important than who they are.

I am very proud of my mother, who is now in her 90's and a life long evangelical Christian, that she has had the courage and the compassion to counsel and show love and acceptance to the many Christian men and women of her church who were rejected by their own parents (many of whom were 'Christian' ministers) and accept them and love them after their own 'Christian' parents showed the attitude you express about their homosexuality. This attitude you describe places doctrine above love.

None of her own five children are homosexual, so she did not come to this compassionate and loving acceptance because of any personal or family obligation. She came to it solely because she is a loving and intelligent woman who is able to see thru the misleading cultural tissue that too often obscures the true message of Christ.

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KCKID wrote:
The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?[/color]
I am not a Christian, tho' that was how I was raised and I was a committed Christian for the first half or so of my life. Even tho' my intellectual beliefs have changed, to a great extent I remain culturally a Christian. Neither I, nor any of my four siblings is homosexual, and I retain a certain antipathy to homosexuality, despite the fact that I believe homosexuality is not a choice. To be candid, I suppose I would be disappointed to learn one of my children was gay or lesbian. I have a son and two daughters, none of whom are homosexual, but I cannot imagine loving them less if they were homosexual. I think I would actually enjoy the opportunity to let them know I loved them, no matter what their honest choices were. I very recently became a grandfather. I can't imagine loving my new grand daughter less, nor encouraging her less if any of her decisions turn out to be different than mine.

What I really want for my children and my grand daughter is that they are happy and fulfill their potential, whatever that may be.

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KCKID wrote:
99percentatheism wrote:
KCKID wrote: The title/subtitle says it all. This scenario must have occurred many, many times. We've all heard, read or seen instances of this and the types of responses that parents of their gay children have given. While we only seem to have a handful of vocal anti-gay Christians on this forum, I'm genuinely curious as to how they would react if their son or daughter came to them and told them that they're gay. Others, feel free to offer your input.

The question again: How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay? Without revealing any more than you need to, has this actually happened to any of you ...either as a gay son/daughter or as a parent?
So what?
KCKID wrote:How would you (a Christian) respond to your son or your daughter coming out to you that they are gay?
99percentatheism wrote:So what?
So, you would pass off your son's/daughters 'coming out' to you with a mere "So what?" I would have expected a bit more from you of ALL people, 99percent. It sounds as though you're fine with the notion that your son or your daughter is gay. If so, that's great.
It would be the same as if my child told me they were embracing Voodoo.

"So what?"

Christian truth doesn't change for my children either.

Are you claiming that a child seeking a sinful life overrules the Gospel?

Luke chapter 15 is all the answer your OP (or my children) needs.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+15

By the way KID, "as a Christian" IF they (my child) wanted to be a Christian . . .

How many gay lovers would I have to agree to my child having(?) daily, weekly, monthly. yearly????

I can't ask "WWJD," about marriage because that answer is already clear and my child's choice IF they chose gay life, would exclude marriage. So should I agree to doom them to a life of sinfulness???

Please remember to answer that question in Christian concepts please. Since my first loyalty is to Christ Jesus. PER Christ Jesus.

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