Is Christianity man-made?

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Is Christianity man-made?

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Did humans make (develop, invent, construct) the religions known collectively as Christianity?

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Zzyzx wrote: Notice that my statement also included "power." Did early Christians gain power (and influence, and possibly wealth) by convincing Roman emperors to make Christianity the official (enforced) religion of the empire?
Maybe “early Christians� got power, but I don’t think they were those who wrote the Bible. In my opinion they were those who used some Bible scriptures for their benefit. And I think it is amazing that they used Bible, because it is against evil, creed and many other godless things.
Zzyzx wrote:What does the future of Jews have to do with Christianity?
Christian meant originally disciple of Jesus and those were at the beginning Jews. And actually Bible seems to tell that all disciples of Jesus are also Jews.

For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh; but he is a Jew who is one inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not from men, but from God.
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Zzyzx wrote: Notice that my statement also included "power." Did early Christians gain power (and influence, and possibly wealth) by convincing Roman emperors to make Christianity the official (enforced) religion of the empire?
Maybe “early Christians� got power, but I don’t think they were those who wrote the Bible.
Do you know who "wrote the bible" (whose writings were included and who actually compiled the bible)?"

"Early Christians" did not use the bible because it did not exist until the fourth century.
1213 wrote: In my opinion they were those who used some Bible scriptures for their benefit. And I think it is amazing that they used Bible, because it is against evil, creed and many other godless things.
Do those who "use the bible" NOT do evil or godless things?
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Zzyzx wrote: What does the future of Jews have to do with Christianity?
Christian meant originally disciple of Jesus and those were at the beginning Jews. And actually Bible seems to tell that all disciples of Jesus are also Jews.
Agreed. Jesus and his crew were said to be Jews. Later people made the new religion.

Again, what does the future of the Jews have to do with Christianity?
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Zzyzx wrote: .
Straight-forward question:

Did humans make (develop, invent, construct) the religions known collectively as Christianity?

Cite supporting evidence.
I don't hold that Christianity (or any religion for that matter) is man made in that it is a conscious construct. Like all social memes Christianity has evolved, it is a syncretism. It includes and transcends that from which it emerged...I.e. Judaism, Hellenistic dualism, Vedantism and Buddhist thought. And it continues to evolve.

A meme, could be likened to the genetic code of a belief. Beliefs are like cells, when enough come together a body, or worldview is formed.
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Zzyzx wrote: What does the future of Jews have to do with Christianity?
Christian meant originally disciple of Jesus and those were at the beginning Jews. And actually Bible seems to tell that all disciples of Jesus are also Jews.
Agreed. Jesus and his crew were said to be Jews. Later people made the new religion.

Again, what does the future of the Jews have to do with Christianity?
Jews and Christianity is in my opinion same thing really, in Biblical point of view. Therefore their future is bound together.
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Jews and Christianity is in my opinion same thing really, in Biblical point of view. Therefore their future is bound together.
Interesting opinion -- with which Jews and Christians might disagree.

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bernee51 wrote:
Zzyzx wrote: .
Straight-forward question:

Did humans make (develop, invent, construct) the religions known collectively as Christianity?

Cite supporting evidence.
I don't hold that Christianity (or any religion for that matter) is man made in that it is a conscious construct. Like all social memes Christianity has evolved, it is a syncretism. It includes and transcends that from which it emerged...I.e. Judaism, Hellenistic dualism, Vedantism and Buddhist thought. And it continues to evolve.

A meme, could be likened to the genetic code of a belief. Beliefs are like cells, when enough come together a body, or worldview is formed.
I really enjoy what you're getting at here, but...


Do you declare something else came up with god notions, as the OP asks?
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