Why is the origin of the universe meaningful?

[Filthy Tugboat]

Arguments for God often always rely on the ultimate question of, "without God how could the universe exist." And often arguments of a prime mover which I think are somewhat legitimate but just don't share any relation with religious conceptions of God. But really, why is the origin of the universe important at all? Why should I concern myself with how it all began and, with that concern, any concept of God or deep scientific study into the big bang and evolution? Why does it matter what happened billions of years ago?

[Jagella]

[Replying to post 23 by Filthy Tugboat]

Yes, it's common for apologists nowadays to fall all over each other trying to get at modern cosmology and the Big Bang Theory seeking scientific evidence for their god. They reason that if there is a beginning, then there must be a beginner. And of course that "beginner" is the god of the Bible. So they think that they have evidence from modern science for the Bible god.

But of course the problem is that the Big Bang is at best superficially similar to the creation myths in Genesis 1 and 2. These myths weren't even invented by the Bible writers but were stolen from the Babylonians. There is no Big Bang Theory in Genesis but only the myths of primitive, superstitious people.

[Guy Threepwood]

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I'd say because we are made in God's image.

WHY would you say that?

Did someone tell you? Did you read such things in ancient texts?

Can it be shown the those people weren't fantasizing and/or telling tall tales?

because we are the ones having this conversation.

We are the only means we know of, by which the universe can know itself, ponder it's own existence.

I assume that a book written in french, was written by a french speaker primarily for a french speaker- even if it is inhabited by millions of bacteria

[Zzyzx]

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I'd say because we are made in God's image.

WHY would you say that?

because we are the ones having this conversation.

The question asks why a person would make a specific statement.

Did someone tell you? Did you read such things in ancient texts?

We are the only means we know of, by which the universe can know itself, ponder it's own existence.

Kindly explain ‘universe know itself’ and show how humans provide that knowledge.

Can it be shown the those people weren't fantasizing and/or telling tall tales?

I assume that a book written in french, was written by a french speaker primarily for a french speaker- even if it is inhabited by millions of bacteria

Fantasies and fiction can be told or written in any language. The question asks how it can be shown that the people writing / speaking were not fantasizing or telling tall tales when claiming ‘we are made in God’s image’.

Care to give that a stab?