Faith and not proof

[Menotu]

Thoughts on why God doesn't provide any proof of his realness/existence, instead relying on faith?

Surely, this all grand being, that created everything that is (even the things we don't know about which requires faith to believe) can provide proof* that everyone can see and accept that he's real.
Yet this hasn't happened. Instead, he dangles ambiguous tidbits in front of some, tells others to witness and spread the word, and requires faith (sometimes enormous leaps of faith) to accept him
Why is that?

* That's testable, verifiable by scientific mean and readily available to everyone

[1213]

… This isn't about extremes, it's about knowledge and why God isn't providing it, instead relying on faith, tests and 'well maybe's'.

Ok, then I simply say, I think God is not providing more knowledge, because it is not useful, there is no good reason for doing so. All important knowledge is already in the Bible for those who want to understand.

[1213]

… I am righteous now ….

Nice, then everything should be fine.

…We need the knowledge that a God is real so that the entire population of Earth can get over the fighting and conflict that has arisen because of all the different gods that people believe in right now…

Conflicts are because people don’t love others as said in the Bible. Even if people would know that there is just one true God, it would not make them good and loving.

[brunumb]

[Replying to post 32 by 1213]

Even if people would know that there is just one true God, it would not make them good and loving.

You don't know that. So much conflict in the world is due to differences in religious beliefs. The problem with a hidden God is that it is exactly the same as a non-existent God.

[Willum]

Things that don't exist can not give evidence of their existence.

It is flatly impossible, and fulfills all data.

[2timothy316]

Everyone uses faith to come to conclusions about things that they have no proof using evidence that they have available.

Example:
Those that have not been into space or traveled completely around the Earth by walking in a straight line only to finish where they began, are basing their believe that the Earth is a sphere on faith. It's faith based on the evidence of others findings and based on other objects in space, such as the Sun and Moon. Yet they have no proof for another person because the proof is based on personal experience. Person A says, "I have walked around the Earth and I know it's a sphere". Person B says, "Prove it." Person A gives person B a video of the walk around the Earth. Person B says, "Video can be faked". There is no way to 'prove' to person B the Earth is round. Person B is going to have to base their decision on the Earth is flat on either by trusting the person and the video evidence or walk the Earth themselves. If person B decides the Earth is a sphere that choice is based on faith.

[1213]

[Replying to post 32 by 1213]

Even if people would know that there is just one true God, it would not make them good and loving.

You don't know that. So much conflict in the world is due to differences in religious beliefs. …

The conflict is not because of religious beliefs. Conflict is because people want many things that also other people want and it is the real conflict. For example, wars are because there are groups of people who want the same land and then fight over it. Often it is not the interest of common people to go to war, they would be happy to live peacefully, as long as they have basic things, like food and place to live. Conflicts are usually sown by greedy leaders who lust for power and want to subdue others. And to do that they often need some idea that can be used to turn other people to wars. And for that almost anything can be used. And as you may have noticed, religions are also used for that. Even Christianity has been used for that and it worked, because people don’t know well what is said in the Bible.

I think religions are only an excuse for wars and conflicts. Real reason for conflicts is that people are evil and greedy and don’t love others. If people would know that the is only one true God, they would seek other excuse for their evilness.

[Tcg]

[Replying to post 32 by 1213]

Even if people would know that there is just one true God, it would not make them good and loving.

You don't know that. So much conflict in the world is due to differences in religious beliefs. …

The conflict is not because of religious beliefs.

There is clear evidence that contradicts your assertion:

• Religious violence is on the rise. What can faith-based communities do about it?
  
  Religious violence is undergoing a revival. The past decade has witnessed a sharp increase in violent sectarian or religious tensions. These range from Islamic extremists waging global jihad and power struggles between Sunni and Shia Muslims in the Middle East to the persecution of Rohingya in Myanmar and outbreaks of violence between Christians and Muslims across Africa. According to Pew, in 2018 more than a quarter of the world's countries experienced a high incidence of hostilities motivated by religious hatred, mob violence related to religion, terrorism, and harassment of women for violating religious codes.
  
  https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/02/ ... -violence/

Tcg

[1213]

…There is clear evidence that contradicts your assertion:

• Religious violence is on the rise. What can faith-based communities do about it?
  …

Even if religious violence is on the rise, it doesn’t mean it is because of religions, because it is possible that religions are only excuses. And if we look for example what Bible teaches, no Christians should be violent, so the violence clearly doesn’t come from Christians religion.

[Tcg]

…There is clear evidence that contradicts your assertion:

• Religious violence is on the rise. What can faith-based communities do about it?
  …

Even if religious violence is on the rise, it doesn’t mean it is because of religions, because it is possible that religions are only excuses. And if we look for example what Bible teaches, no Christians should be violent, so the violence clearly doesn’t come from Christians religion.

Your objection doesn't hold up. Jesus himself will return and reveal the violence that is his nature and which permeates Christian theology:

• Revelation 19:11 Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. 13 He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. 14 And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. 15 From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.

Tcg

[1213]

…Your objection doesn't hold up. Jesus himself will return and reveal the violence that is his nature and which permeates Christian theology:…

Jesus doesn’t teach that his disciples (“Christians�) should be violent. Instead he says:

But I tell you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who mistreat you and persecute you, that you may be children of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the just and the unjust.
Mat. 5:44-45

So, if “Christians� are violent, it doesn’t come from the teachings and they are not then living by the teachings of Jesus.

Even if one would deserve punishment, disciples should not judge:

"Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you."
Mat. 7:1-2