How do I determine what God requires of me?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:04 pm

I have posted what I think is the single most important issue to debate.

To me, the second most important issue is this. If there is a God, how do I determine what God requires of me? If your answer involves something that is from human agency, a book or an organization, then the question remains, "How do I know that the book's authors or the organization's leaders authoritatively speak for God?"

How do I determine what God requires of me?

upallnite · Post by **upallnite** » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:36 pm

Fallibleone wrote:
olavisjo wrote:
Fallibleone wrote:I believe that what each number means was set out quite effectively by Zzyzx.

The fact that I believe both a divine Jesus and an afterlife are non-existent would figure pretty highly there.
I did not ask "why are you so high?" but rather "why are you not 100%?"
Do you have a reason to not close the door?
Yes, and here it is. I do not feel that one can know with 100% certainty whether God exists or does not exist based on current knowledge. I'm progressing steadily towards #7, though.

Fallibleone wrote:You have sullied this board with your LOLcats!
I am just trying to answer "How do I determine what God requires of me?"
Sorry? I was replying to upallnite's post.

At least somebody clicks on links. Even if it was just lolcats. I could have posted the picture, but I thought it might be to offensive to some of the viewers.

I have attempted the sinners prayer. I am still an Atheist. Care to explain the failure of your method?

olavisjo · Post by **olavisjo** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:31 am

upallnite wrote:I am still an Atheist. Care to explain the failure of your method?

It took me five years from the time I first said the prayer. God used that time to prepare my hart and life to be able to receive him.
Do you feel any desire to make God real in your life?

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:55 am

upallnite wrote:I am still an Atheist. Care to explain the failure of your method?

olavisjo wrote:It took me five years from the time I first said the prayer. God used that time to prepare my hart and life to be able to receive him.
Do you feel any desire to make God real in your life?

I don't. Why should I?

Fallibleone · Post by **Fallibleone** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:45 pm

I am now nearly 20 years on from when I first attempted to pray to God.

olavisjo · Post by **olavisjo** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 6:54 am

McCulloch wrote:
upallnite wrote:I am still an Atheist. Care to explain the failure of your method?
olavisjo wrote:It took me five years from the time I first said the prayer. God used that time to prepare my hart and life to be able to receive him.
Do you feel any desire to make God real in your life?
I don't. Why should I?

John 10:10 wrote:
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

When you find the abundant life that Jesus came to bring, you will have so much joy in life, that all things will become rewarding beyond measure.

McCulloch · Post by **McCulloch** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:43 am

John 10:10 wrote: The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

olavisjo wrote:When you find the abundant life that Jesus came to bring, you will have so much joy in life, that all things will become rewarding beyond measure.

Give me some reason to believe that this is anything more than a pipe dream.

olavisjo · Post by **olavisjo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:09 am

McCulloch wrote: Give me some reason to believe that this is anything more than a pipe dream.

It is not a pipe dream, the Kingdom of Heaven is going to be established on Earth very soon, even if I have to usher it in all by myself, which I don't have to do. I have many, many brothers and sisters all working night and day to make this a reality. And it will happen.
I used to attend Stone Church, near Bloor and Young at 45 Davenport Road, it would be a good place for you to go, if you really want to find a reason to believe. If you are waiting for someone to say something that would give you reason to believe, it will not happen like that. God must place the reason directly into your mind and heart, you just need to create a place for him to insert it into.

bernee51 · Post by **bernee51** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:39 am

olavisjo wrote:
McCulloch wrote: Give me some reason to believe that this is anything more than a pipe dream.
It is not a pipe dream, the Kingdom of Heaven is going to be established on Earth very soon, even if I have to usher it in all by myself, which I don't have to do.

McC asked for a reason why it is not a pipe dream.., you don't seem to have one.

The Kingdom of Heaven has been promised 'soon' for the last 3000 years...why is your time so special hat it will come for you.

olavisjo wrote: God must place the reason directly into your mind and heart, you just need to create a place for him to insert it into.

Why can't he create the place given he created me?

olavisjo · Post by **olavisjo** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:15 am

bernee51 wrote: McC asked for a reason why it is not a pipe dream.., you don't seem to have one.

The Kingdom of Heaven has been promised 'soon' for the last 3000 years...why is your time so special hat it will come for you.

Join me, together we will make it happen, let us start here and let us start now. We will bring all the people in the world together, and the Kingdom of Heaven will be established.

bernee51 wrote:
olavisjo wrote: God must place the reason directly into your mind and heart, you just need to create a place for him to insert it into.
Why can't he create the place given he created me?

I don't see any reason why he can't, are you willing to let him do it?

Fallibleone · Post by **Fallibleone** » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:25 am

olavisjo wrote:
bernee51 wrote: McC asked for a reason why it is not a pipe dream.., you don't seem to have one.

The Kingdom of Heaven has been promised 'soon' for the last 3000 years...why is your time so special hat it will come for you.
Join me, together we will make it happen, let us start here and let us start now. We will bring all the people in the world together, and the Kingdom of Heaven will be established.

I'm a bit disappointed that there is nothing here about why it is not a pipe dream.