The Double Dichotomy Proof of God

[John J. Bannan]

THE DOUBLE DICHOTOMY PROOF OF GOD


1) A metaphysical dichotomy between the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence and no states of existence proves that no states of existence cannot be the case, because our universe is real.

2) A metaphysical dichotomy between the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real and the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence that cannot become real being those possible all inclusive states of existence that contain two logically possible but contradictory states proves that the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence that cannot become real cannot be the case, because our universe is real.

3) Because our universe had a beginning and does not need to be real, and because something must be real without our universe being real due to the fact that no states of existence cannot be real, then there must be something real without our universe being real proving that all inclusive states of existence that can become real must be possible in reality.

4) Because the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real is infinite because one can imagine any given universe with the addition of just one more thing ad infinitum, then there cannot be a probability for any given universe because the set is infinite.

5) But because the universe is real, then there must be something real which determines what becomes real among the infinite set of all possible all inclusive states of existence where said determination is not based on probability or random chance.

6) Because something can be real and our universe not be real, then there must be a power to create the real such as our universe, and as there is a power to create the real, then there must be a power to determine what is real based on an order of preference.

7) Because the set of all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real is not inherently ordered, and because it is possible to determine based on preference which possible all inclusive states of existence come into reality, then there must be a real eternal constraint that determines through will and intellect to allow any or all of these possible all inclusive states of existence to become real.

8) Because the actualization of any or all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real requires the constraint to actualize them, then the constraint cannot be made and therefore must be infinite pure act without moving parts.

9) Said constraint must have power over all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real being omnipotent and omnipresent.

10) Said constraint must have knowledge of all possible all inclusive states of existence that can become real being omniscient.

11) Because the mind of the constraint is omnipresent and hence within all of us, our minds are contained within the mind of the constraint which calls all of us to be Sons of the constraint.

12) Hence, a single being exists who is eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent, is not made, and has a will and intellect and we call this being God.

[JoeyKnothead]

Still no attempt to show how a "creative mind" can exist without a physical brain.

Still no acknowledgement my issue ever got it an uttering.


Alas, those who claim to speak for God sit quiet in the face of contradictory notions.

They sit silent in the face of overwhelming data that suggests their god is a figmentium ad imaginatium.

They speak loudly, and with much vociferocity when they argue their notions, only don't it beat all, they refuse to accept or address the arguments of others.

They yip and yap like a pup on a ham bone when they think they have the upper hand. But they cower in silence when that ham bone speaks in its own defense.

(clarificationin's have occurred)

[Bust Nak]

The Big Bang is evidence of a first cause. The entire universe springs from the mysterious. First cause has evidence, but it is strange and mysterious. I can accept that there are things about the universe I do not understand and perhaps can never understand.

At best the big bang is evidence of a cause, what made you think it was the first?

Infinite causality without beginning, however, is impossible. A first spatial ORDER is required for there to be any ORDER.

Is it required? Prove it.

And what is more, I've got the Big Bang providing that first spatial ORDER. So, what need is there of believing in impossible infinite causality?

First you have to prove that infinite causality is impossible.

This is what you posted just before Christmas:

1) Reality implies the option of absence of reality aka pure nothingness.
2) Because pure nothingness cannot cause reality, then reality must be uncaused by process of elimination because there is nothing else available to cause reality.
3) Because all material reality requires a cause and because nothing can cause itself, and because reality is ultimately uncaused, one can conclude that there must be more to reality than just material reality.
4) Hence, one can conclude there is an uncaused immaterial reality with God-like attributes.

At best you have a prove that some sort of meta multiverse exist, even if I was to grant you the premise that this material reality has a cause. It does not follow that there is any God-like entities.